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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4330 Posts
July 25 2013 23:47 GMT
#241
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.


I almost replied to your first post with subzero.

You dear sir, are a cool person. Subzero ftw! (I hope no esquimo is offended by the name of that characters o.O)
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 00:21:21
July 25 2013 23:47 GMT
#242
On July 26 2013 08:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group H Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (P)CranK vs. [image loading] (T)DeMusliM
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
CranK spawns in the bottom right
DeMusliM spawns in the top left

1:40
gateway first for CranK
rax first for DeMusliM
gas for DeMusliM

2:00
gas for CranK
cybernetics core for CranK

3:00
reaper for Demuslim
zealot for CranK
reactor for Demuslim
CC on the high ground for Demuslim
nexus for Crank

4:00
MSC for Crank
2nd rax for Demuslim
2nd gas for Crank
reaper denied scouting of the main by the MSC
bunker in the natural for Demuslim
reaper swings back around but is denied from the main by a stalker

5:00
robo for Crank
2nd gas for Demuslim
stim research started for Demuslim
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 25 2013 23:49 GMT
#243
On July 26 2013 08:43 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:39 IgnE wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:32 Teoyaomqui wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:29 IgnE wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:21 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:20 Noocta wrote:
Hey, atleast it's an ID with history.
It's a bit more interesting than Koreans using a random English word from a TVshow or a book.

Yeah pretty much this, it's not really a 'UK thing' for me, but a name with some individuality to it that I quite like.


It has no individuality. He is not a muslim. Muhammed Ali happened to be a muslim. I don't even see the connection between liking a boxing champion and calling yourself "demuslim". Who referred to Ali as "that muslim"? or "da muslim"? or even "the muslim?" It's a bad name because it brings in a whole bunch of politically/racially charged connotation on an ID for a pasty white kid from the UK.

I much prefer words chosen seemingly at random by Korean players. At least those words are blank slates with minimal connotation and are usually abstract enough. Many are probably chosen for their aesthetically pleasing phonemes.

Demuslim is just a multisyllable abomination that is, at best, misleading and childish, and at worst, patently offensive.

Offensive..? Really? How could it in any way be offensive to anyone?



I guess you have no experience with muslims being offended over more trivial matters?

"TheMuslim" would be less offensive, even if it's still childish and misleading to distill Ali's multifaceted character as a world champion boxer, humanitarian, and leader into the label "muslim". Which both now, and back then, has connotations of "the Other" to most westerners. But adding the slang "de" in front further diminishes the man and associates the term "muslim" with lower class, pidgin-speaking foreigners. And the guy who has this ID is a male-privileged white kid.

1. Ali branded himself in that manner at times.
2. The 'pidgin English' is how a lot of the youth speak in England, especially in inner-city London. I gather Demu is from Nottingham, and being unaware of the parlance there can't really speak for that area.

I love how you are defended the honour of Muslims, but your justification for speaking for that rather large subsection of the world's population is that 'they get offended over trivial matters'


I'd love a reference showing that Ali referred to himself as "the muslim" or anything similar. I kind of think you just made that up.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 23:50:34
July 25 2013 23:49 GMT
#244
On July 26 2013 08:47 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.


I almost replied to your first post with subzero.

You dear sir, are a cool person. Subzero ftw! (I hope no esquimo is offended by the name of that characters o.O)

I played Mortal Kombat on very rare occasions. I played a lot more Tekken and SFII (I think) growing up.

Also, it would be spelled Eskimo.

EDIT: Congrats Shellbot on the 44444!
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 23:51:14
July 25 2013 23:50 GMT
#245
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.

Seriously, I watched football on TV and played Golden Eye, Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros at friend's places but apart from that I didn't do much in terms of TV and games.

ALL HAIL WINTEX TL+ SANTA AND 3v3 CARRY.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 00:21:30
July 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#246
On July 26 2013 08:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group H Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (P)CranK vs. [image loading] (T)DeMusliM
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
CranK spawns in the bottom right
DeMusliM spawns in the top left

1:40
gateway first for CranK
rax first for DeMusliM
gas for DeMusliM

2:00
gas for CranK
cybernetics core for CranK

3:00
reaper for Demuslim
zealot for CranK
reactor for Demuslim
CC on the high ground for Demuslim
nexus for Crank

4:00
MSC for Crank
2nd rax for Demuslim
2nd gas for Crank
reaper denied scouting of the main by the MSC
bunker in the natural for Demuslim
reaper swings back around but is denied from the main by a stalker

5:00
robo for Crank
2nd gas for Demuslim
stim research started for Demuslim

6:00
double forge for Crank
observer for Crank
factory for Demuslim
stim research started for Demuslim
ebay for Demuslim
2 more gas for Crank

7:00 47 vs 43
1-1 started for Crank
reaper picks off a probe in the natural and gets away
Marauders for Demuslim
starport for Demuslim
+1 attack started for Demuslim
Demuslim breaking down the back rocks

8:00 57 vs 57
cannons in the mineral lines of Crank
reaper baits out 2 forcefields and escapes
twilight council for Crank
medivacs started for Demuslim
2 more gates for Crank
combat shields for Demuslim

9:00 65 vs 75
3rd base for Demuslim
2 more gates for Crank
charge research for Crank
Demuslim moving out with his first 2 medivacs
Templar archives for Crank
3 more rax for Demuslim
2nd ebay and armory for Demuslim

10:00 75 vs 84
Demuslim runs up the natural ramp
photon overcharge on the natural makes him turn around
+1 armor for Demuslim
2-2 for Crank
warp prism for Crank
3 more gates for Crank
hallucinated phoenix sees the army of Demuslim moving around the back side
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4330 Posts
July 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#247
On July 26 2013 08:49 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:47 KobraKay wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.


I almost replied to your first post with subzero.

You dear sir, are a cool person. Subzero ftw! (I hope no esquimo is offended by the name of that character o.O)

I played Mortal Kombat on very rare occasions. I played a lot more Tekken and SFII (I think) growing up.

Also, it would be spelled Eskimo.


Not a cool person anymore T_T....wrote it in portuguese not sure why...
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
July 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#248
GG Shellbot. I loveth thy dedication to this shit. You deserve that one.
The Bomber boy
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#249
On July 26 2013 08:43 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:38 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I find it really interesting that Demuslim always hits around the 14 minute timing
and every game Huk had exactly 1 collosus without range and a bunch of random gateway units that don't even count.

I'm no expert in pvt, but wouldn't (P)First's style be better suited against this timing.
Getting templar first then go into collosi....


As long as you don't stay on pure gate units forever you can hold whatever terran attack is coming.

Huk just kinda...picks a random idea and sticks with it wether it's good or bad. I've seen him:
not get aoe vs terran for insanely long
not get colossi vs zerg going swarm host
go tempest vs colossi while having a one base econ in pvp

If you can somehow engage more than perfectly yeah you MIGHT be able to pull off silly shit like that, but generally it's never, ever, EVER going to work vs someone of even skill. Huk could do it in 2011 because he IS really damn good at battle tactics and micro, especially on a good day, but now he's just fallen off so he gets punished for stupid builds like those. I mean, he DID defend a 4gate with a double gas first mothership rush once in beta...


Your post deserves sex, sir.
moo...for DRG
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 23:53:05
July 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#250
On July 26 2013 08:50 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.

Seriously, I watched football on TV and played Golden Eye, Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros at friend's places but apart from that I didn't do much in terms of TV and games.

ALL HAIL WINTEX TL+ SANTA AND 3v3 CARRY.

That was pretty much the same fore me except we had a very old Atari as well. Played the shit out of Berserk, Space Invaders, and Frogger.

ALL HAIL WINTEX!

On July 26 2013 08:51 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:49 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:47 KobraKay wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.


I almost replied to your first post with subzero.

You dear sir, are a cool person. Subzero ftw! (I hope no esquimo is offended by the name of that character o.O)

I played Mortal Kombat on very rare occasions. I played a lot more Tekken and SFII (I think) growing up.

Also, it would be spelled Eskimo.


Not a cool person anymore T_T....wrote it in portuguese not sure why...

Hey, I played what I could play at friend's/cousin's houses! Don't hate the player, hate the game!
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 25 2013 23:52 GMT
#251
Shame the 44444 will be ruined in a sec here
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
July 25 2013 23:52 GMT
#252
On July 26 2013 08:50 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.

Seriously, I watched football on TV and played Golden Eye, Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros at friend's places but apart from that I didn't do much in terms of TV and games.

ALL HAIL WINTEX TL+ SANTA AND 3v3 CARRY.

Man, don't thank me. Thank MKP for inspiring me to micro like him. <3
The Bomber boy
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 25 2013 23:52 GMT
#253
On July 26 2013 08:52 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:50 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
WHAT? Cartoons in the downtime? I wanted to know what Robin's favourite 90's game was.

"So StarVe, who was your favorite original Mortal Kombat character?"

No,no, no I'm the wrong guy to ask these kind of questions, I don't know shit about stuff that was popular way back.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever played the original, but I remember liking Subzero.

Seriously, I watched football on TV and played Golden Eye, Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros at friend's places but apart from that I didn't do much in terms of TV and games.

ALL HAIL WINTEX TL+ SANTA AND 3v3 CARRY.

Man, don't thank me. Thank MKP for inspiring me to micro like him. <3

If only I'd have been alive to witness it. :D
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27010 Posts
July 25 2013 23:53 GMT
#254
On July 26 2013 08:49 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:43 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:39 IgnE wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:32 Teoyaomqui wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:29 IgnE wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:21 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:20 Noocta wrote:
Hey, atleast it's an ID with history.
It's a bit more interesting than Koreans using a random English word from a TVshow or a book.

Yeah pretty much this, it's not really a 'UK thing' for me, but a name with some individuality to it that I quite like.


It has no individuality. He is not a muslim. Muhammed Ali happened to be a muslim. I don't even see the connection between liking a boxing champion and calling yourself "demuslim". Who referred to Ali as "that muslim"? or "da muslim"? or even "the muslim?" It's a bad name because it brings in a whole bunch of politically/racially charged connotation on an ID for a pasty white kid from the UK.

I much prefer words chosen seemingly at random by Korean players. At least those words are blank slates with minimal connotation and are usually abstract enough. Many are probably chosen for their aesthetically pleasing phonemes.

Demuslim is just a multisyllable abomination that is, at best, misleading and childish, and at worst, patently offensive.

Offensive..? Really? How could it in any way be offensive to anyone?



I guess you have no experience with muslims being offended over more trivial matters?

"TheMuslim" would be less offensive, even if it's still childish and misleading to distill Ali's multifaceted character as a world champion boxer, humanitarian, and leader into the label "muslim". Which both now, and back then, has connotations of "the Other" to most westerners. But adding the slang "de" in front further diminishes the man and associates the term "muslim" with lower class, pidgin-speaking foreigners. And the guy who has this ID is a male-privileged white kid.

1. Ali branded himself in that manner at times.
2. The 'pidgin English' is how a lot of the youth speak in England, especially in inner-city London. I gather Demu is from Nottingham, and being unaware of the parlance there can't really speak for that area.

I love how you are defended the honour of Muslims, but your justification for speaking for that rather large subsection of the world's population is that 'they get offended over trivial matters'


I'd love a reference showing that Ali referred to himself as "the muslim" or anything similar. I kind of think you just made that up.

Branded himself as a Muslim and made it a pretty big deal, it wasn't something in the background. He renamed himself from Cassius Clay, etc etc. He wasn't a shrinking violet on the topic, and it was a pretty big part of his public identity was my point.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27010 Posts
July 25 2013 23:54 GMT
#255
On July 26 2013 08:51 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:43 Teoita wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:38 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I find it really interesting that Demuslim always hits around the 14 minute timing
and every game Huk had exactly 1 collosus without range and a bunch of random gateway units that don't even count.

I'm no expert in pvt, but wouldn't (P)First's style be better suited against this timing.
Getting templar first then go into collosi....


As long as you don't stay on pure gate units forever you can hold whatever terran attack is coming.

Huk just kinda...picks a random idea and sticks with it wether it's good or bad. I've seen him:
not get aoe vs terran for insanely long
not get colossi vs zerg going swarm host
go tempest vs colossi while having a one base econ in pvp

If you can somehow engage more than perfectly yeah you MIGHT be able to pull off silly shit like that, but generally it's never, ever, EVER going to work vs someone of even skill. Huk could do it in 2011 because he IS really damn good at battle tactics and micro, especially on a good day, but now he's just fallen off so he gets punished for stupid builds like those. I mean, he DID defend a 4gate with a double gas first mothership rush once in beta...


Your post deserves sex, sir.

I'm not so sure. If that post deserves sex, then there's little higher reward we can give him for his guides!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 25 2013 23:54 GMT
#256
Huh, I just noticed that this is being played on a censored version of StarCraft II. I wonder why that is?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 00:21:39
July 25 2013 23:54 GMT
#257
On July 26 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group H Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (P)CranK vs. [image loading] (T)DeMusliM
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
CranK spawns in the bottom right
DeMusliM spawns in the top left

1:40
gateway first for CranK
rax first for DeMusliM
gas for DeMusliM

2:00
gas for CranK
cybernetics core for CranK

3:00
reaper for Demuslim
zealot for CranK
reactor for Demuslim
CC on the high ground for Demuslim
nexus for Crank

4:00
MSC for Crank
2nd rax for Demuslim
2nd gas for Crank
reaper denied scouting of the main by the MSC
bunker in the natural for Demuslim
reaper swings back around but is denied from the main by a stalker

5:00
robo for Crank
2nd gas for Demuslim
stim research started for Demuslim

6:00
double forge for Crank
observer for Crank
factory for Demuslim
stim research started for Demuslim
ebay for Demuslim
2 more gas for Crank

7:00 47 vs 43
1-1 started for Crank
reaper picks off a probe in the natural and gets away
Marauders for Demuslim
starport for Demuslim
+1 attack started for Demuslim
Demuslim breaking down the back rocks

8:00 57 vs 57
cannons in the mineral lines of Crank
reaper baits out 2 forcefields and escapes
twilight council for Crank
medivacs started for Demuslim
2 more gates for Crank
combat shields for Demuslim

9:00 65 vs 75
3rd base for Demuslim
2 more gates for Crank
charge research for Crank
Demuslim moving out with his first 2 medivacs
Templar archives for Crank
3 more rax for Demuslim
2nd ebay and armory for Demuslim

10:00 75 vs 84
Demuslim runs up the natural ramp
photon overcharge on the natural makes him turn around
+1 armor for Demuslim
2-2 for Crank
warp prism for Crank
3 more gates for Crank
hallucinated phoenix sees the army of Demuslim moving around the back side

11:00 89 vs 109
storm research for Crank
+2 attack for Demuslim
concussive shells for Demuslim
Demuslim attacks towards the natural but photon overcharge makes him turn around
ghost academy for Demuslim

12:00 111 vs 129
moebius reactor for Demuslim
3rd base for Crank
2 more rax for Demuslim
warp prism loads up zealots and flies into the main of Demuslim

13:00 139 vs 141
zealot drop in the main of Demuslim
+2 armor for Demuslim
zealot runby to the 3rd of Demuslim
2nd robo for Crank
robo bay for Crank
ghosts started for Demuslim

14:00 130 vs 154
another zealot drop in the main
+1 ship weapons for Demuslim
cloak research for Demuslim
+3 attack for Demuslim
4th CC for Demuslim

15:00 152 vs 165
double colossus production for Crank
viking catches the warp prism for Crank and chases after it
missile turrets for Demuslim
2nd starport for Demuslim
Extended thermal lance research for Crank
zealot runby into the 3rd of Demuslim
HT flank storms whole army of Demuslim
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27010 Posts
July 25 2013 23:55 GMT
#258
Is Crank playing from NA or Kr btw?
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Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 25 2013 23:55 GMT
#259
On July 26 2013 08:52 Darkhoarse wrote:
Shame the 44444 will be ruined in a sec here

dont worry:
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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 25 2013 23:55 GMT
#260
yay retarded 1a mass zealot pvt lategame is back!
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