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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
July 16 2013 20:14 GMT
#861
GRUBBY GRUBBY GRUBBY
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 16 2013 20:14 GMT
#862
On July 17 2013 05:09 Relaaja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:08 HugzForL wrote:
stop saying impressive play by grubby, how do you want forgg to split with 500pings versus storms ?



Stupid excuses again. Better player won.

Well, no, but Grubby certainly played better in that game 3.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 16 2013 20:14 GMT
#863
On July 17 2013 05:11 Otolia wrote:
What is this "Europe Holds Bullshit" ?! ForGG should have played from Europe. He got his yearly work visa processed but it never arrived to the french embassy in Seoul.

ForGG has been ripped off. He could have gotten into the yearly finals but now he won't have enough points.

FRUSTRATION !!!!!!


He could have played in KR scene. He didnt choose do to do so. These bureaucratic shitz is part of playing games on prolevel in other regions... But forgg lost fair and square.. grubster had him. I even believe his games against vortix were really awefull. He lost his spot there and then not against grubster.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
July 16 2013 20:14 GMT
#864
I don't think micro was the problems, ForGG lost it partly by his late third, but mostly when he poked with the rines and lost a lot together with a few medivacs. If he'd waited for the hellbats to come out first the fight would be much closer. Of course there's still the colossus switch to worry about, but that's the penalty for having a crappier economy.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 16 2013 20:14 GMT
#865
On July 17 2013 05:13 KingofGods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:12 amiGo_O wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:11 garbanzo wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:10 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:08 HugzForL wrote:
stop saying impressive play by grubby, how do you want forgg to split with 500pings versus storms ?


500 ping? Tough titties, it's his own fault.

How is it his fault that French embassy is giving him a hard time with his visa?

his problem, he is from Korea and if I remember correctly there is WCS Korea ... trying to get easy money from Europe? bad luck ...



He's been living in Franch for like a year.......

Please stop talking when you obviously don't even listen to what the casters say :D
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
July 16 2013 20:14 GMT
#866
On July 17 2013 05:10 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:09 HugzForL wrote:
Ofc Grubby played the better game obviously. But still it's silly.

Only thing silly is you trying to take something away from Grubby's AMAZING victory.


Its easy for a player to look superior and amazing when his opponent is having difficulties due to lag and stuff, was quite evident when ForGG was trying to micro and just couldn't do it efficiently vs both Vortix and Grubby.

Congrats to Grubby for advancing and all, but there is such a thing as the better player not always winning, and today the better player didn't win.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#867
So I guess ForGG can't French

*Mirrorshades*
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#868
On July 17 2013 05:14 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:11 Otolia wrote:
What is this "Europe Holds Bullshit" ?! ForGG should have played from Europe. He got his yearly work visa processed but it never arrived to the french embassy in Seoul.

ForGG has been ripped off. He could have gotten into the yearly finals but now he won't have enough points.

FRUSTRATION !!!!!!


He could have played in KR scene. He didnt choose do to do so. These bureaucratic shitz is part of playing games on prolevel in other regions... But forgg lost fair and square.. grubster had him. I even believe his games against vortix were really awefull. He lost his spot there and then not against grubster.


Im sure ForGG would'a 4:0'd his groupe if he woulda been in Europe. But anyways, gg Vortix and Grubby.
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 20:15:59
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#869
Im sure ForGG would'a 4:0'd his group if he woulda been in Europe. But anyways, gg Vortix and Grubby.
Relaaja
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland193 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#870
On July 17 2013 05:11 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:09 Relaaja wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:08 HugzForL wrote:
stop saying impressive play by grubby, how do you want forgg to split with 500pings versus storms ?



Stupid excuses again. Better player won.

lol no.
"better player" did not win, actually Grubby is a ofc a cool guy, a good player and I like him more than ForGG but it is obvious, that Terran that need to MICRO to win, no matter what matchup, are more affected by lag then Grubby was.
If the "better" player won, why did Grubby opt 2x for allin/timing attacks instead of a straight up macro game against this korean terran?


Good player knows how to scout third base. ForGG didnt scout and deserved to lose. Scouting has nothing to do with lag.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#871
So many french people here, lol
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#872
On July 17 2013 05:14 calh wrote:
I don't think micro was the problems, ForGG lost it partly by his late third, but mostly when he poked with the rines and lost a lot together with a few medivacs. If he'd waited for the hellbats to come out first the fight would be much closer. Of course there's still the colossus switch to worry about, but that's the penalty for having a crappier economy.


He was supply blocked too.
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#873
On July 17 2013 05:11 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:09 Relaaja wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:08 HugzForL wrote:
stop saying impressive play by grubby, how do you want forgg to split with 500pings versus storms ?



Stupid excuses again. Better player won.

lol no.
"better player" did not win, actually Grubby is a ofc a cool guy, a good player and I like him more than ForGG but it is obvious, that Terran that need to MICRO to win, no matter what matchup, are more affected by lag then Grubby was.
If the "better" player won, why did Grubby opt 2x for allin/timing attacks instead of a straight up macro game against this korean terran?


Grubby reacted to what he saw. He saw the fast 3rd CC and went for the immortal pressure + warp prism due to the lack of tech/units from the terran. The third game was also like that, as the oracle saw the stim being researched at the normal time and the factory coming down, so he took the third base before forgg could move out and attack. Reactionary attacks due to game knowledge. So yes, the more knowing (yet not as mechanically strong) Grubby beat the non-scouting (yet mechanically out of this world) ForGG.
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#874
On July 17 2013 05:14 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:10 Cokefreak wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:09 HugzForL wrote:
Ofc Grubby played the better game obviously. But still it's silly.

Only thing silly is you trying to take something away from Grubby's AMAZING victory.


Its easy for a player to look superior and amazing when his opponent is having difficulties due to lag and stuff, was quite evident when ForGG was trying to micro and just couldn't do it efficiently vs both Vortix and Grubby.

Congrats to Grubby for advancing and all, but there is such a thing as the better player not always winning, and today the better player didn't win.

Lag made it hard to scout the push or the third? Don't think so. Grubby outplayed ForGG in that game 100%.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#875
On July 17 2013 05:12 amiGo_O wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:11 garbanzo wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:10 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:08 HugzForL wrote:
stop saying impressive play by grubby, how do you want forgg to split with 500pings versus storms ?


500 ping? Tough titties, it's his own fault.

How is it his fault that French embassy is giving him a hard time with his visa?

his problem, he is from Korea and if I remember correctly there is WCS Korea ... trying to get easy money from Europe? bad luck ...

Maybe it's because he's playing for Millenium and he has been in France for the past year or so?
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
July 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#876
Grubby just had the better unit composition, even with lower ping I wouldn't have seen forGG split against that. Not to mention forGG knew the situation and decided to go for splits vs storms instead of ghosts (sure then you also have problems with higher ping, but that's all things he knew beforehand). If it was just barely won by Grubby I could have agreed it was due to ping (would still have been deserved by Grubby. But this was a very clear and decisive victory of Grubby, stop trying to downplay it. Because lets face it, if forgg would have been in Europe you would have blamed jetlag.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18628 Posts
July 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#877
So according to forgg fans:

Game 1 was super awesome leet skills (forgg's greed risk)
and game 3 was all lost due to bad ping (grubby's fast third)? lolol
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#878
On July 17 2013 05:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So many french people here, lol

They treat ForGG like their own.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#879
well that thread escalated quickly
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
July 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#880
On July 17 2013 05:15 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 05:14 Destructicon wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:10 Cokefreak wrote:
On July 17 2013 05:09 HugzForL wrote:
Ofc Grubby played the better game obviously. But still it's silly.

Only thing silly is you trying to take something away from Grubby's AMAZING victory.


Its easy for a player to look superior and amazing when his opponent is having difficulties due to lag and stuff, was quite evident when ForGG was trying to micro and just couldn't do it efficiently vs both Vortix and Grubby.

Congrats to Grubby for advancing and all, but there is such a thing as the better player not always winning, and today the better player didn't win.

Lag made it hard to scout the push or the third? Don't think so. Grubby outplayed ForGG in that game 100%.

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