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On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking.
This discussion was held so many times its not even funny.
Its their choice to play EU, so they got to deal with it.
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On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking.
Then move too EU and stop whining
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On July 14 2013 02:35 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking. This discussion was held so many times its not even funny. Its their choice to play EU, so they got to deal with it.
I agree, but that still doesn't take away the simple fact that playing with 300+ ms severely impacts your performance.
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On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking.
NaNiwa and Mvp did it, and against MUCH better players than the ones Genius is facing...
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On July 14 2013 02:38 Creem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 02:35 NovaMB wrote:On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking. This discussion was held so many times its not even funny. Its their choice to play EU, so they got to deal with it. I agree, but that still doesn't take away the simple fact that playing with 300+ ms severely impacts your performance.
^ this. It's a factor and that cannot be debated. Of course it's the korean players choice. But that does not change the fact that it's very difficult.
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On July 14 2013 02:44 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking. NaNiwa and Mvp did it, and against MUCH better players than the ones Genius is facing...
They had the opportunity to prepare for specific opponents.
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Come on San. Don't let me down
(1809) San 0-0 ShoWTimE (1288)
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51.35% 2-0 0-2 8.03%
29.11% 2-1 1-2 11.51%
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80.46% 19.54%
Median outcome: San 2-0 ShoWTimE
(1809) San 0-0 Tarrantius (1215)
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55.09% 2-0 0-2 6.64%
28.40% 2-1 1-2 9.86%
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83.49% 16.51%
Median outcome: San 2-0 Tarrantius
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On July 14 2013 02:38 Creem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 02:35 NovaMB wrote:On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking. This discussion was held so many times its not even funny. Its their choice to play EU, so they got to deal with it. I agree, but that still doesn't take away the simple fact that playing with 300+ ms severely impacts your performance.
Of course, people are very much aware of that fact. The problem is that this is a main excuse for Koreans being eliminated from EU tournaments. Sometimes it seems being a statement in flavour of "no way a foreigner kills a Korean, no no no it had to be lag".
In my opinion the lag thing should be taken as a given fact and never spoken about again, it has been grinded to death at this point.
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 Showtime 0-1 Tarrantius
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San's got this, Azoozoo's loss wasn't for nothing!
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Tarrantius 2-0 Showtime and he will face San for the WCS EU Challenger spot
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Omg, i really hope that Tarra can make it, he is such a cool guy.
And....Europe needs to hold....
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On July 14 2013 02:34 Creem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 01:54 govie wrote:On July 14 2013 01:54 DJHelium wrote:
Genius is playing from KR, right? The forcefields were really off/late.
Still solid defense by Targa, especially since he didn't scout it until very late. GG WP! No excuses. Have you tried playing from Europe on KR servers? I have, and with that experience I'm amazed Genius could even put up a half decent fight. It doesn't matter how good you are, playing with 300+ms is really game breaking.
yes i have, its better then playing sc1 in normal ladder ... its quite annoying and its by FAR not perfekt but its doable.
300ms are not the world its bad but hey ... its not like a gm would lose to a master or something that impacting.
targa is just incredible good ... thats all (yes genius might be better and yes the lag might have an impact BUT the impact goes away when you play alot with it, like atfer 200+ games you have nearly no worse play anymore. if you wanna play on EU for money, go and train there too so you know what you do ...)
absolute no excuses
On July 14 2013 03:01 NovaMB wrote: Tarrantius 2-0 Showtime and he will face San for the WCS EU Challenger spot
as much as i like tarra, i rly hoped for showtime he had an amazing run with hanfy sjow goody, and i dont know 1 of tarrantius enemys 
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someone tell tarrantius next time make his webcam higher gamma, nothing to see there only few shadows soooo dark ^^
which empire zerg ? streamlink ?
EDIT: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/EmpireTVorg.ZERG but its russian
sooo sad not both semis gets maincasted always ... should be done by rules or something !
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Hahaha, Tarrantius with the same build he beat Showtime 10 minutes ago
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tarrantius off starport voidray/stalker push vs blinkstalker
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he saw pylon in range he could have canceled it and newbuild it 1 m behind it
wayne tarrantius 1-0
haha look at his webcam he is so done xD he sooo much wants in wcs he always says it damn come on 1 more game !
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For the peeps that wanna know. I just dl-ed the games between vines [kr] and downfall [fr].
+ Show Spoiler +Game 2 : Standard build : ccfirst into 3rax into ebay+2turrets into medivacs and 2 more rax against a wierd late dtbuild from vines Game 3 : Funny game. 1 base 6marinemedivacdrop with 3 hellions trailing to roast drones. Against a gateway expand from vines. Was a pretty nice bbq and downfall got some drones. After attack vines wanted to counter but downfall allready had 2 bunkers up and ready to defend. ezpz
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