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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:41 sibs wrote: this upsets me so much, how zerg has to tiptoe around counterattacking and terran just runs in. Gotta love those clueless "just," especially when the best Terran in the world is playing. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:43 Waxangel wrote: ultras are like insta lose vs innovation just dump money into upgrades and go muta-ling-bane until the end of time :D ultras are only good with fungal vs terrans that micro d; | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:41 sibs wrote: this upsets me so much, how zerg has to tiptoe around counterattacking and terran just runs in. Yeah, I am wondering if someone will find some answers sometime soon. I can't figure out yet if Innovation is just that much better or what it is :/ | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
 HyuN vs Solar : http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/just started | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:43 Dodgin wrote: ultras are only good with fungal vs terrans that micro d; Ultras are extremely brutal, but not when you're down 40-60 supply with a weakened economy and no/little support. | ||
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:43 Ketch wrote: Yeah, I am wondering if someone will find some answers sometime soon. I can't figure out yet if Innovation is just that much better or what it is :/ Since I watched plenty of TvZs where zerg managed to prevail over terran going bio+medivac+mine, I would say that Innovation is just that much better. If you watch the game closely, the supplies were even and they were trading back and forth until Innovation managed to snipe that 4th base. Only after that he jumped by 40 supply and it was gg. But you need great bio + wm control + save as many medivacs vs. mutas to be able to do that. | ||
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double1185
Vietnam211 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3756 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:43 Dodgin wrote: ultras are only good with fungal vs terrans that micro d; No they are good when zerg is at least equal with terran in economy and army. It was a 40 supply difference against player with insane micro and multitasking. The game turned in Innovation's favor when he managed to stop the 4th from going up. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:46 double1185 wrote: i hope w/ this kind of tvsz going on with widow mine we can expect a overlord buff soon, making z pay gas for detector and making it slow and visible just pure disadvantage The player with superior mechanics prevails → loser's race needs a buff? Strong logic... | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:47 nimdil wrote: Wow, the reigning King of Europe was stomped really hard, not winning a single set. Shows you how much being King of Europe means in Korea. Nothing. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:49 Aunvilgod wrote: Shows you how much being King of Europe means in Korea. Nothing. Apparently it's still good enough to make it to RO4 at WCS global finals. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:49 Aunvilgod wrote: Shows you how much being King of Europe means in Korea. Nothing. He gets an invite from his WCS ranking so all he was playing for was a free trip which is something I doubt is overally important to him. It also looked like he hadn't changed much of his builds since the patch. | ||
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sibs
635 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:46 Qwerty85 wrote: Since I watched plenty of TvZs where zerg managed to prevail over terran going bio+medivac+mine, I would say that Innovation is just that much better. If you watch the game closely, the supplies were even and they were trading back and forth until Innovation managed to snipe that 4th base. Only after that he jumped by 40 supply and it was gg. But you need great bio + wm control + save as many medivacs vs. mutas to be able to do that. Yea inno is a beast, he was actually always ahead on supply, even when roro was dealing with mines very well, on that counter-attack it actually hurt my brain, cause it looked like a winning move, it was a whole army vs rally'd units and some mines, but building placement + mine placement.. actually held roro's army. | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:50 TheDwf wrote: Apparently it's still good enough to make it to RO4 at WCS global finals. Against Alicia, Ryung and Losira. That is exactly one top Korean and additionally his teammate. Bracket luck much? | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:41 sibs wrote: this upsets me so much, how zerg has to tiptoe around counterattacking and terran just runs in. Really? You can burrow your fucking banelings, so we cannot simply run in, matter of fact NO ONE DOES USE IT. We leave supply as defence, same can be done by you. Also "Terran just" - NO. INnoVation was playing insanely amazing, now stop your shit QQ--_- | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 15 2013 17:53 Aunvilgod wrote: Against Alicia, Ryung and Losira. That is exactly one top Korean and additionally his teammate. Bracket luck much? Was his close series against Bogus bracket luck too? | ||
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