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[WCS EU] Challenger League Qualifier #2 S2 2013 - Page 4

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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 07 2013 14:38 GMT
#61
It is like the Koreans don't know how to reduce the latency playing on servers in different regions.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
July 07 2013 14:38 GMT
#62
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
swordboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada299 Posts
July 07 2013 14:42 GMT
#63
San is playing TeSL final with Sen now.
MarineKing | ThorZaIN | IMMvp | MMA | Sase | Sen | Kas
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 14:47:47
July 07 2013 14:44 GMT
#64
On July 07 2013 23:38 Marchinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:35 sharkie wrote:
Tarrantius vs Revenge

game 2, a funny draw!


A draw? How? Why?


Killed OC vs two Widow Mines. Tarrantius had some probes, but didn't expect a mine in his mineral line. His probes got killed, he had to rebuilt a probe and had to awkwardly path the probe to collect minerals. But the second widow mine closed the area of the awkward path and Tarrantius failed to prevent it with his handful of Stalkers. Probe died, only 40 Minerals left, draw.

Edit: Tarra didn't have detection obviously. He had a Stargate and could build an oracle once he collected enough minerals.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
July 07 2013 14:47 GMT
#65
On July 07 2013 23:38 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge

I haven't even heard or some of those players. So technically there are more than 5 or 6 korean players but they're not all living and training in Korea. Meanwhile WCS AM has nearly that many players who have been in code S and a lot more at lower levels.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4269 Posts
July 07 2013 14:50 GMT
#66
Who the f*ck is this guy saying Hoejja is not a known player?!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
July 07 2013 14:51 GMT
#67
On July 07 2013 23:44 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:38 Marchinko wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:35 sharkie wrote:
Tarrantius vs Revenge

game 2, a funny draw!


A draw? How? Why?


Killed OC vs two Widow Mines. Tarrantius had some probes, but didn't expect a mine in his mineral line. His probes got killed, he had to rebuilt a probe and had to awkwardly path the probe to collect minerals. But the second widow mine closed the area of the awkward path and Tarrantius failed to prevent it with his handful of Stalkers. Probe died, only 40 Minerals left, draw.

Edit: Tarra didn't have detection obviously. He had a Stargate and could build an oracle once he collected enough minerals.


Thanks, bet it was funny! It looks funny in my head..
....
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
July 07 2013 14:51 GMT
#68
On July 07 2013 23:47 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:38 mikkmagro wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge

I haven't even heard or some of those players. So technically there are more than 5 or 6 korean players but they're not all living and training in Korea. Meanwhile WCS AM has nearly that many players who have been in code S and a lot more at lower levels.


I agree I was just listing them ^^

waCk and Revenge both recently moved to Germany to live in the Alien Invasion house; Pro7ecT lives in Russia. I'm not sure whether Daisy has moved back to Germany or no. Positive is a B-teamer on mYinsanity, so he's not really a pro gamer.

Can't see Genius not qualifying in this :X
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
July 07 2013 14:52 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler +
Koh "HoeJJa" Kang Min is a South Korean Zerg player and captain of KT Rolster.
....
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 07 2013 14:53 GMT
#70
EU taking care of the business with Chators beating VINES and CPU Inca. Now if Didzdemon could crush Hoejja that would be fun.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 14:54:59
July 07 2013 14:54 GMT
#71
On July 07 2013 23:53 Otolia wrote:
EU taking care of the business with Chators beating VINES and CPU Inca. Now if Didzdemon could crush Hoejja that would be fun.


Already happened, HoeJJa is out.

And wack just lost to Morrow
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 15:05:04
July 07 2013 14:55 GMT
#72
On July 07 2013 23:51 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:47 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:38 mikkmagro wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge

I haven't even heard or some of those players. So technically there are more than 5 or 6 korean players but they're not all living and training in Korea. Meanwhile WCS AM has nearly that many players who have been in code S and a lot more at lower levels.


I agree I was just listing them ^^

waCk and Revenge both recently moved to Germany to live in the Alien Invasion house; Pro7ecT lives in Russia. I'm not sure whether Daisy has moved back to Germany or no. Positive is a B-teamer on mYinsanity, so he's not really a pro gamer.

Can't see Genius not qualifying in this :X

I was actually surprised a bit. If you count code S at any point ever, there may be more code S players in AM than that. But that includes players like TOP and Heart. So many veterans.
After going through, I've counted 20 players in or trying to qualify for WCS AM that have played in Code S at least once. (Excluding foreigners who were in code S)
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 07 2013 14:56 GMT
#73
Won 2:0, I'm against MorroW now!
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 07 2013 14:57 GMT
#74
On July 07 2013 23:56 TheDwf wrote:
Won 2:0, I'm against MorroW now!


was a good run man!
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
July 07 2013 15:00 GMT
#75
On July 07 2013 23:56 TheDwf wrote:
Won 2:0, I'm against MorroW now!


GL HF
....
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
July 07 2013 15:02 GMT
#76
Matches are pretty cool but are the commentators in gold league ?
I'm being a bit pesky here but their knowledge seems pretty low,otherwise they have a decent flow.
RIP MKP
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 15:10:51
July 07 2013 15:07 GMT
#77
Does anyone know why dechiic vs. Naama is still in the ro256?

They must've been playing for about 3 hours now

E: As I say this they finished
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 07 2013 15:26 GMT
#78
Lost 0:2. ;(
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 07 2013 15:32 GMT
#79
On July 08 2013 00:26 TheDwf wrote:
Lost 0:2. ;(


Ro32 not bad tho Next weekend is yours
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 07 2013 15:33 GMT
#80
Lost 1-2 vs NightEnD
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
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