• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:28
CEST 18:28
KST 01:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow0[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy4GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion JD's Ro24 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The China Politics Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1954 users

[WCS EU] Challenger League Qualifier #2 S2 2013 - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 Next All
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 07 2013 14:38 GMT
#61
It is like the Koreans don't know how to reduce the latency playing on servers in different regions.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
July 07 2013 14:38 GMT
#62
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
swordboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada299 Posts
July 07 2013 14:42 GMT
#63
San is playing TeSL final with Sen now.
MarineKing | ThorZaIN | IMMvp | MMA | Sase | Sen | Kas
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 14:47:47
July 07 2013 14:44 GMT
#64
On July 07 2013 23:38 Marchinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:35 sharkie wrote:
Tarrantius vs Revenge

game 2, a funny draw!


A draw? How? Why?


Killed OC vs two Widow Mines. Tarrantius had some probes, but didn't expect a mine in his mineral line. His probes got killed, he had to rebuilt a probe and had to awkwardly path the probe to collect minerals. But the second widow mine closed the area of the awkward path and Tarrantius failed to prevent it with his handful of Stalkers. Probe died, only 40 Minerals left, draw.

Edit: Tarra didn't have detection obviously. He had a Stargate and could build an oracle once he collected enough minerals.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
July 07 2013 14:47 GMT
#65
On July 07 2013 23:38 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge

I haven't even heard or some of those players. So technically there are more than 5 or 6 korean players but they're not all living and training in Korea. Meanwhile WCS AM has nearly that many players who have been in code S and a lot more at lower levels.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4270 Posts
July 07 2013 14:50 GMT
#66
Who the f*ck is this guy saying Hoejja is not a known player?!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
July 07 2013 14:51 GMT
#67
On July 07 2013 23:44 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:38 Marchinko wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:35 sharkie wrote:
Tarrantius vs Revenge

game 2, a funny draw!


A draw? How? Why?


Killed OC vs two Widow Mines. Tarrantius had some probes, but didn't expect a mine in his mineral line. His probes got killed, he had to rebuilt a probe and had to awkwardly path the probe to collect minerals. But the second widow mine closed the area of the awkward path and Tarrantius failed to prevent it with his handful of Stalkers. Probe died, only 40 Minerals left, draw.

Edit: Tarra didn't have detection obviously. He had a Stargate and could build an oracle once he collected enough minerals.


Thanks, bet it was funny! It looks funny in my head..
....
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
July 07 2013 14:51 GMT
#68
On July 07 2013 23:47 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:38 mikkmagro wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge

I haven't even heard or some of those players. So technically there are more than 5 or 6 korean players but they're not all living and training in Korea. Meanwhile WCS AM has nearly that many players who have been in code S and a lot more at lower levels.


I agree I was just listing them ^^

waCk and Revenge both recently moved to Germany to live in the Alien Invasion house; Pro7ecT lives in Russia. I'm not sure whether Daisy has moved back to Germany or no. Positive is a B-teamer on mYinsanity, so he's not really a pro gamer.

Can't see Genius not qualifying in this :X
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
July 07 2013 14:52 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler +
Koh "HoeJJa" Kang Min is a South Korean Zerg player and captain of KT Rolster.
....
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 07 2013 14:53 GMT
#70
EU taking care of the business with Chators beating VINES and CPU Inca. Now if Didzdemon could crush Hoejja that would be fun.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 14:54:59
July 07 2013 14:54 GMT
#71
On July 07 2013 23:53 Otolia wrote:
EU taking care of the business with Chators beating VINES and CPU Inca. Now if Didzdemon could crush Hoejja that would be fun.


Already happened, HoeJJa is out.

And wack just lost to Morrow
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 15:05:04
July 07 2013 14:55 GMT
#72
On July 07 2013 23:51 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:47 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:38 mikkmagro wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:20 NovaMB wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:18 DamageControL wrote:
Is NA-Korea lag less bad, are america wcs players just worse, or are there less korean players in EU?

edit: could also be, of course, that the koreans in EU are worse


Its all 4 things really.

Lag is really bad from KR to EU, there are only 5 or 6 players trying to qualify(not counting the 7 already in WCS EU) and most of them are B-teamers and Europe has a much deeper player pool.

mYinsanity.StarDust
mYinsanity.Positive
Azubu.Genius
Azubu.San (did not participate in the second qualifier for some reason)
Azubu.InCa
Azubu.Vines
STX.Size
KT Rolster.HoeJJa
Western Wolves.Daisy
RoX.Pro7ecT (though he has been living in Russia for a long time now)
Alien Invasion.waCk
Alien Invasion.Revenge

I haven't even heard or some of those players. So technically there are more than 5 or 6 korean players but they're not all living and training in Korea. Meanwhile WCS AM has nearly that many players who have been in code S and a lot more at lower levels.


I agree I was just listing them ^^

waCk and Revenge both recently moved to Germany to live in the Alien Invasion house; Pro7ecT lives in Russia. I'm not sure whether Daisy has moved back to Germany or no. Positive is a B-teamer on mYinsanity, so he's not really a pro gamer.

Can't see Genius not qualifying in this :X

I was actually surprised a bit. If you count code S at any point ever, there may be more code S players in AM than that. But that includes players like TOP and Heart. So many veterans.
After going through, I've counted 20 players in or trying to qualify for WCS AM that have played in Code S at least once. (Excluding foreigners who were in code S)
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 07 2013 14:56 GMT
#73
Won 2:0, I'm against MorroW now!
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 07 2013 14:57 GMT
#74
On July 07 2013 23:56 TheDwf wrote:
Won 2:0, I'm against MorroW now!


was a good run man!
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
July 07 2013 15:00 GMT
#75
On July 07 2013 23:56 TheDwf wrote:
Won 2:0, I'm against MorroW now!


GL HF
....
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
July 07 2013 15:02 GMT
#76
Matches are pretty cool but are the commentators in gold league ?
I'm being a bit pesky here but their knowledge seems pretty low,otherwise they have a decent flow.
RIP MKP
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 15:10:51
July 07 2013 15:07 GMT
#77
Does anyone know why dechiic vs. Naama is still in the ro256?

They must've been playing for about 3 hours now

E: As I say this they finished
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 07 2013 15:26 GMT
#78
Lost 0:2. ;(
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 07 2013 15:32 GMT
#79
On July 08 2013 00:26 TheDwf wrote:
Lost 0:2. ;(


Ro32 not bad tho Next weekend is yours
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 07 2013 15:33 GMT
#80
Lost 1-2 vs NightEnD
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #243
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .323
Codebar 91
BRAT_OK 90
trigger 84
Railgan 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38896
Calm 3407
Bisu 3316
Shuttle 1025
EffOrt 775
Mini 713
BeSt 466
ggaemo 401
actioN 362
Light 358
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 345
Rush 285
ZerO 249
firebathero 127
Barracks 100
Aegong 76
Nal_rA 66
Shinee 64
Killer 46
Movie 37
Hyun 30
Rock 29
Sexy 25
soO 24
Terrorterran 21
scan(afreeca) 18
Hm[arnc] 15
GoRush 10
yabsab 10
ivOry 8
NotJumperer 7
Dota 2
Gorgc6850
qojqva2976
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor206
MindelVK13
Other Games
singsing1790
Grubby1609
Liquid`RaSZi1403
B2W.Neo1080
FrodaN1022
RotterdaM295
Sick81
QueenE68
Mew2King42
ZerO(Twitch)29
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL883
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 24
• LUISG 14
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1985
• TFBlade1759
Other Games
• Shiphtur189
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
BSL
2h 32m
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
2h 32m
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
16h 32m
Wardi Open
17h 32m
Afreeca Starleague
17h 32m
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Monday Night Weeklies
23h 32m
OSC
1d 7h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 17h
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 17h
GSL
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Escore
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
IPSL
5 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.