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summoning shellbot in 3...2...1.
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On June 09 2013 15:59 woody60707 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 15:51 Namenlos wrote:On June 09 2013 15:49 woody60707 wrote:On June 09 2013 15:42 YourHarry wrote:
In vegas: a lot of money being wagered on sOs. Innovation payout moved from 1.25 to 1.67 in the last hour or so. Link, where can I bet real money on SC2? My post right below his. lol I can't find his post now...
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On June 09 2013 15:58 ThomasR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 15:52 JP Dayne wrote:On June 09 2013 15:51 aNGryaRchon wrote:
So we are talking about language here now? you wanna talk about the KPOP playing on OGN stream? i wanna talk about practice
we're not talking about the game man...
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On June 09 2013 16:00 IshinShishi wrote:
summoning shellbot in 3...2...1.
I'll PM him if he doesn't show up. My fingers are tired.
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Now to transition from 30 pages of OGN lounge + languages talk into the finals!
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give us map order so we can do predictions dammit
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This needs more excite-a-bike.
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On June 09 2013 15:55 Veroleg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:07 jalstar wrote:On June 09 2013 14:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding. Mvp is really fucking good, and I respect anyone whos good, even more with a handicap like his wrists problem but this is pushing it. Seriously if he were best in the world he'd still be playing WCS KR. He's clearly top tier along with Innovation and Flash, but "Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous." is ridiculous. hes clearly not top tier though Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:17 Exarl25 wrote:On June 09 2013 14:11 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 14:07 KelsierSC wrote:On June 09 2013 14:02 1Dhalism wrote:
people seemed to forget that the twat who introduced the elephant theory didnt write the obvious "given enough time really talented BW players will be really good at SC2." He wrote "SC2 players are shit."
It's very offensive. Yeh I don't think he directly said that, but it was a horribly written offensive article that was very selective with the evidence and was based on ignorance of the brood war scene MC was thrown into PL games early because he had amazing potential Fruit dealer was getting PL time and was a really good BW player let's just never bring up that article again and hopefully in a few years people will create threads wondering where the term "elephant" came from I think the article was quite well written. You might disagree with the argument that it lays out (I do too) but the article itself was a good piece of writing. I also have no idea why people find it offensive, basically everything he said about peoples past and motivations were true, its just the predictions that are still in question. Still in question? They have been completely debunked. People don't seem to get that the article wasn't just saying Kespa players will be really good at SC2, that was never up for debate. He claimed that within a few months of their switch they would be completely dominant and SC2 competition up until that happens is, in his own words, a farce. Do you remember what the Kespa players looked like after 3 months? Dominant? They were barely competitive. Even now, over a year in, ESF players still put up a fight. The article was wrong, completely wrong, and that's the end of it. he wasnt able to fully realise how small the skill ceiling was, whats his fault? do you remember what the kespa players looked like? they always had a positive record, lol barely competetive. putting up what fight? Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. kespa 24-5 in this tournament. Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:06 LighT. wrote:On June 09 2013 14:02 Zinthar wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 NovemberstOrm wrote:On June 09 2013 13:58 LighT. wrote:
As I said before, Mvp is mechanicaly inferior, he has to rely on his brilliant playmaking and decision making to win his games.
Hmm...but Mvp is definitely a top 15 player for sure, right up there with the top tier terrans but slightly below Innovation/Flash. top 15? lol Mvp's mechanics have fallen off since his wrist problem. Starting around the third GSL season of WoL or so, Mvp's mechanics seemed to be the best among Terran players. Back then, it was his decision-making that would end up costing him games at times. I dont know if there's anything wrong with what I said. Yes, top 15. And correct, with his wrist problems + the fact that he's now competiting in a pool of the best known "mechanically superior" players in the KeSPA players, he's a tier below in mechanics. It's his impeccable game decisions/game sense that has been keep him among the best. As much as I'd get flamed for it, put him in a Bo5/7 against TY or Inno, and I'd think TY and Innovation would take the set a majority of the time. A percentage even greater if it was against someone like Flash. theres literally no way hes top15
I'm not saying mvp is top tier, or he is top15. Question is, how do you know he is not ? Because Innovation beat him 3-2 in a close series? I can also say Flash is no way top 15 and his individual league record backs that up (but I'm not)
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pretty good crowd :D
I wonder how good is innovation TvP seeing that he barely if any play much against them
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I also really love the music OGN used for the season finals.
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hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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and the crowd goes wild with crowd comments.
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Someone promote Chobra to king of korea.
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On June 09 2013 16:02 Azurues wrote:
pretty good crowd :D
I wonder how good is innovation TvP seeing that he barely if any play much against them
He's got a lot of good protoss teammates so i'm thinking he's fine :p
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