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On June 09 2013 14:01 rothsbury wrote:
I don't think MVP ever had that - his build was not that great. Widow mines which are not that scary in TvT followed up by banshees that were doomed to fail against the turrets build to stop the widow mine drops. And then what, mass hellion? However was that going work?
Too many people don't understand the indirect economic cost of harass. Artosis stated it quite specifically. Making your opponent use scans costs them 270 minerals each time they do it which is a large economic hit. Innovation had MVP's number though and got the viking because the mine drop was so fast he knew it was gas first and likely a banshee followup. Good read by innovation. If the hellbats hadn't done so much damage to MVP (he mineral walked them and then didn't split them, the huge hellion push follow up by MVP would've kept the game more or less on even keel. He really needed one medavac to elevator up his hellions into the main after which the game would've been totally different.
At any rate, well played by both players. Innovation's early viking really completely stopped the banshees and the death of the 2nd banshee ofscreen was huge.
MVP tended to take way too much damage to hellbat drops the whole series.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On June 09 2013 14:00 Daray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding. mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol Pretty sure he told about it yesterday
to add on, he said it in the interview with day9 on yesterday's stream. Great games. I think mvp's build got shut down hard by innovation. He had the engineering bay and turret down right as the banshee got there and lost 2-3 SCVs max to the widow mine. I think having the hellions at the tower without attacking Innovation's base and then against stalling before attacking gave Innovation time to set up a defense and try to get a tank out. Ironic isn't it? Innovation actually built a tank XD
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On June 09 2013 14:03 Marchinko wrote:
From 8 Zerg in thr RO16, to Zero Zerg in the final. Happy a Protoss is in the final though. Bogus dbl final got to tell you something about his level of skill.
zergs always find a way to whine
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On June 09 2013 14:02 Wildmoon wrote:
I feel like Flash will take over Innovation very very soon. Innovation is not that great in TvT at all in late game.
Funny thing is, Innovation beat Flash in RO16 WCS Korea, and said that if Flash had mech instead of bio, Flash would've won.
And then Innovation went half-bio against MVP in Game 2 (with such an early lead), and then lost.
I think both games are even on the same map!
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mvp got 10000 us , wow... very good!!
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On June 09 2013 14:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:apparently in 2 hours o.o
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On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting...
Just ignore him. If he thinks that Mvp had no chance after watching the series then he's not even worth talking to.
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On June 09 2013 14:04 scypio wrote:
Mvp going full foreigner there. Awww...
Worse, he went full ForGG. ):
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Blizz said if a matchup is the same thing everytime they would change it. I think hellbats fit into that, but hellbats later on are important to help with siege tanks for mech so weakening them changes how that works too. Maybe just remove the healing.
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On June 09 2013 14:04 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:02 1Dhalism wrote:On June 09 2013 13:57 JP Dayne wrote:
damn it
it seems the white elephants theory was true afterall people seemed to forget that the twat who introduced the elephant theory didnt write the obvious "given enough time really talented BW players will be really good at SC2." He wrote "SC2 players are shit." It's very offensive. You be paraphrasing.
That stupid ass thread has been taken out of context so terribly now... Stop talking about it.
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On June 09 2013 14:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:apparently in 2 hours o.o
It won't be that long
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At first when INnoVation got hyped so much I thought it was kinda funny, but did not pay that much attention to it. Then, when he started owning everyone on his road to the GSL finals I was just amazed by his play and his awesome mechanics. I really wanted him to win the GSL and seeing him go down to Soulkey really hurt. I was really afraid he might be so affected by the loss that he would drop off, but he has proven me wrong. Going to the finals after losing one just the week before in an embarassing fashion is just an amazing accomplishment. He has however shown that he is mortal and has problem dealing with high pressure. But this makes him even more awesome imo. Definitively became a fan over the past days!!!
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calling MVP esf's saviour is quite retarded
fun fact 3/4 players in the semis were woongjin A teamers - but you already knew that of course
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oh shit what the hell is this piano song? amazing!
edit: NM regular pop T_T
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damn you artosis curse
damn you to hell
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wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me?
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On June 09 2013 14:04 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:02 LighT. wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. ...Mvp looked dominant in exactly 1 game in that series. Game 2 was one of the biggest chokes/cockiness I've seen from innovation in which lead to him throwing the game. Game 1 + 4 Innovation was completely dominant. Game 5, was teh only back and forth game. It was an epic series with both players looking really fucking good stop being all analytical and just get fucking pumped about a great set of games
Some people don't turn their brains off when they watch sporting events, that's why analytical casters exist.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding.
Mvp is really fucking good, and I respect anyone whos good, even more with a handicap like his wrists problem but this is pushing it.
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On June 09 2013 14:04 scypio wrote:
Mvp going full foreigner there. Awww...
And nowadays I don't even know what full foreigner means anymore. It gets thrown around like a baseball nowadays
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Is everybody say 2 hours as a troll or what...source?
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