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Diogenes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States132 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4601
On June 09 2013 14:01 rothsbury wrote:
I don't think MVP ever had that - his build was not that great. Widow mines which are not that scary in TvT followed up by banshees that were doomed to fail against the turrets build to stop the widow mine drops. And then what, mass hellion? However was that going work?


Too many people don't understand the indirect economic cost of harass. Artosis stated it quite specifically. Making your opponent use scans costs them 270 minerals each time they do it which is a large economic hit. Innovation had MVP's number though and got the viking because the mine drop was so fast he knew it was gas first and likely a banshee followup. Good read by innovation. If the hellbats hadn't done so much damage to MVP (he mineral walked them and then didn't split them, the huge hellion push follow up by MVP would've kept the game more or less on even keel. He really needed one medavac to elevator up his hellions into the main after which the game would've been totally different.

At any rate, well played by both players. Innovation's early viking really completely stopped the banshees and the death of the 2nd banshee ofscreen was huge.

MVP tended to take way too much damage to hellbat drops the whole series.
"When Godzilla attacks, he advances rather than retreats. We can use this to our advantage."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4602
On June 09 2013 14:00 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding.

mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol


Pretty sure he told about it yesterday

to add on, he said it in the interview with day9 on yesterday's stream. Great games. I think mvp's build got shut down hard by innovation. He had the engineering bay and turret down right as the banshee got there and lost 2-3 SCVs max to the widow mine. I think having the hellions at the tower without attacking Innovation's base and then against stalling before attacking gave Innovation time to set up a defense and try to get a tank out. Ironic isn't it? Innovation actually built a tank XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4603
On June 09 2013 14:03 Marchinko wrote:
From 8 Zerg in thr RO16, to Zero Zerg in the final. Happy a Protoss is in the final though. Bogus dbl final got to tell you something about his level of skill.

zergs always find a way to whine
yo
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4604
On June 09 2013 14:02 Wildmoon wrote:
I feel like Flash will take over Innovation very very soon. Innovation is not that great in TvT at all in late game.


Funny thing is, Innovation beat Flash in RO16 WCS Korea, and said that if Flash had mech instead of bio, Flash would've won.

And then Innovation went half-bio against MVP in Game 2 (with such an early lead), and then lost.

I think both games are even on the same map!
gg no re thx
yuliuswin1
Profile Joined September 2012
Indonesia36 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4605
mvp got 10000 us , wow... very good!!
have fun
inbox24
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia344 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4606
On June 09 2013 14:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:04 inbox24 wrote:
When is the next game?

apparently in 2 hours o.o


???

(
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4607
On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist


You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series.


You mean when kespa were still playing bw


You are disgusting...

Just ignore him. If he thinks that Mvp had no chance after watching the series then he's not even worth talking to.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4608
On June 09 2013 14:04 scypio wrote:
Mvp going full foreigner there. Awww...

Worse, he went full ForGG. ):
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#4609
Blizz said if a matchup is the same thing everytime they would change it. I think hellbats fit into that, but hellbats later on are important to help with siege tanks for mech so weakening them changes how that works too. Maybe just remove the healing.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4610
On June 09 2013 14:04 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:02 1Dhalism wrote:

On June 09 2013 13:57 JP Dayne wrote:
damn it
it seems the white elephants theory was true afterall


people seemed to forget that the twat who introduced the elephant theory didnt write the obvious "given enough time really talented BW players will be really good at SC2." He wrote "SC2 players are shit."
It's very offensive.


You be paraphrasing.

That stupid ass thread has been taken out of context so terribly now... Stop talking about it.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4611
On June 09 2013 14:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:04 inbox24 wrote:
When is the next game?

apparently in 2 hours o.o


It won't be that long
Maski
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany335 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4612
At first when INnoVation got hyped so much I thought it was kinda funny, but did not pay that much attention to it. Then, when he started owning everyone on his road to the GSL finals I was just amazed by his play and his awesome mechanics. I really wanted him to win the GSL and seeing him go down to Soulkey really hurt. I was really afraid he might be so affected by the loss that he would drop off, but he has proven me wrong. Going to the finals after losing one just the week before in an embarassing fashion is just an amazing accomplishment. He has however shown that he is mortal and has problem dealing with high pressure. But this makes him even more awesome imo. Definitively became a fan over the past days!!!
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4613
calling MVP esf's saviour is quite retarded

fun fact 3/4 players in the semis were woongjin A teamers - but you already knew that of course
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:05:28
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4614
oh shit what the hell is this piano song? amazing!

edit: NM regular pop T_T
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4615
damn you artosis curse

damn you to hell
byah!
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1702 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4616
wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me?
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4617
On June 09 2013 14:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:02 LighT. wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist


You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series.

...Mvp looked dominant in exactly 1 game in that series.
Game 2 was one of the biggest chokes/cockiness I've seen from innovation in which lead to him throwing the game.
Game 1 + 4 Innovation was completely dominant.
Game 5, was teh only back and forth game.


It was an epic series with both players looking really fucking good

stop being all analytical and just get fucking pumped about a great set of games


Some people don't turn their brains off when they watch sporting events, that's why analytical casters exist.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50587 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4618
On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding.


Mvp is really fucking good, and I respect anyone whos good, even more with a handicap like his wrists problem but this is pushing it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4619
On June 09 2013 14:04 scypio wrote:
Mvp going full foreigner there. Awww...


And nowadays I don't even know what full foreigner means anymore. It gets thrown around like a baseball nowadays
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Ubiquitousdichotomy
Profile Joined January 2013
247 Posts
June 09 2013 05:05 GMT
#4620
Is everybody say 2 hours as a troll or what...source?
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