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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 05:57:12
June 07 2013 05:56 GMT
#3161
GODDAMNIT! SO ANGRY AT RYUNG! >: (

Why in the hell didn't Ryung raise his depot and make tanks? Grr... Losira did not deserve to win that!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 04:38:38
June 07 2013 05:57 GMT
#3162
imagine if this tournament had life, flash, parting etc. instead of the likes of revival, tlo and dimaga
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
June 07 2013 05:57 GMT
#3163
Meanwhile lets watch Jaedongs stream a bit
Im just a zerg
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 07 2013 05:57 GMT
#3164
On June 07 2013 14:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 14:54 Bagration wrote:
That was stupid by Ryung, really sad. But I hope MVP beats Losira, he's just a one dimensional player who relies only on busts to win


People said the same of Symbol. Both he and Losira have shown they can play a very strong lategame. It's just better to go for the roach apparently since Terrans are allergic to tanks


Symbol is a lot better than Losira, and his all ins are better executed and more creative (nydus man).
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 07 2013 05:57 GMT
#3165
On June 07 2013 14:55 DidYuhim wrote:
How in the world Mvp lost to Alicia?


Game 1 he threw away a big advantage in a bad fight, possibly due to pc issues, game 3 he just got outplayed in the late game.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 07 2013 05:57 GMT
#3166
On June 07 2013 14:53 Oboeman wrote:
oh man this is the losira i remember. mass roach baneling against anything and just have unbelievably so many units that he can a-move over everything.

this isn't just his answer to bio-mine, this is how he played in wings of liberty too.

Yah I remember him a-moving banelings on Shakura's backdoor all the way from his base to the Terran base. Hitting every tank on the way, rofl.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
June 07 2013 05:57 GMT
#3167
On June 07 2013 14:56 vrok wrote:
What's with the music? And the black borders during the games?


Yeah the black borders are pretty stupid, huh? -.-

Btw I payed for Vods and I cannot watch them on the main OSL channel? wtf? -.-
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
oniman999
Profile Joined May 2011
United States169 Posts
June 07 2013 05:58 GMT
#3168
I know for me personally, I avoid tanks in TvZ because of vipers. Blinding cloud is really strong against tanks, and every time I am like "Why don't I marine/tanks in TvZ anymore" blinding cloud is like "this is why". I am just a plat level scrub though, so maybe tanks are really effective still at higher level play when you have more speed to unsiege/siege them more often and split marines better and whatnot. Just my 2 cents on the debate.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
June 07 2013 05:58 GMT
#3169
This is what i call the cute casting couch. Nice white pants too HAHAH
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
June 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#3170
On June 07 2013 14:57 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 14:53 Oboeman wrote:
oh man this is the losira i remember. mass roach baneling against anything and just have unbelievably so many units that he can a-move over everything.

this isn't just his answer to bio-mine, this is how he played in wings of liberty too.

Yah I remember him a-moving banelings on Shakura's backdoor all the way from his base to the Terran base. Hitting every tank on the way, rofl.

losira is remembered for two things.

a-moving banelings into tanks.
losing his hatchery to every single 2 rax.

and still winning games.

btw has he been 2 raxed yet since his "return"?
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#3171
--- Nuked ---
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
June 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#3172
this style makes me nostalgic about fruitdealer era
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#3173
On June 07 2013 14:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 14:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:53 Lunareste wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:45 Talack wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:40 SSVnormandy wrote:
ZvT meta : "just defend the damn allin"


I foresee this as the meta until blizzard hits terran with the nerf bat/buffs zerg. Macro games against terran are just so ridiculous with hellbats/mines. Mines act as an insane equalizer and for their cost they do so much versus zerg. I don't really know what the answer is because it seems like ZvP and TvP are pretty balanced and I don't know what changes they can make that won't destroy those match ups.


I think they're going to watch for zerg to figure out the matchup better first. Right now there isn't much innovation for zerg going on.



There isn't much to be had sadly. Using swarmhosts against a bio mine terran is just asking to have speedvacs assault you everywhere your SHs aren't. While muta regen has been an interesting help to mutas overseers are much too slow to keep up if you want to use them to snipe off mines, and if you don't you get games like Jaedong vs some T in proleague where he lost 6 or 7 mutas against random mines on the map.

Honestly depending on how the next few weeks/month goes I'd like to see some buff to infestors (some inbetween of where they are now and WoL). I think changing them in some way (either making ITs better or fungal better) will help both against terran (mine play/speedvacs/hellbats) and with Protoss with the new found popularity of voidrays.


About 80%+ of the community would rather stop watching than see Infestors get buffed again, especially since (according to May winrates) the game is balanced at pretty much all levels, and especially the pro level.


I would never want to see infestors get to WoL level but I could see them ending this "I'm just going to all in every game" ZvT and the "lololvoids" PvZ

I would like a Hydra buff so that going roach/hydra isn't an auto loss and Voids rays have a counter that can't be fed backed.


I'd be interested to see what kind of hydra buff blizzard could come up with, and if it could actually help ZvT.
Also I love the people who are using how many zergs have won GSL finals in a row to talk about buffs and nerfs when theres been a single HotS GSL. Of course the GSL has a lot of zergs at the moment its left over from WoL imbalances, which have nothing to do with HotS
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 06:01:14
June 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#3174
http://drop.sc/340756

IF you dont believe me, going for 2-3 tanks is TOTALLY POSSBILE and transition into bio+mines without being so far behind. And this is only Diamond execution...I tried to adapt the Bombers TvZ from WoL.

http://day9.tv/d/Day9/day9-daily-530/
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#3175
On June 07 2013 14:59 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 14:57 usethis2 wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:53 Oboeman wrote:
oh man this is the losira i remember. mass roach baneling against anything and just have unbelievably so many units that he can a-move over everything.

this isn't just his answer to bio-mine, this is how he played in wings of liberty too.

Yah I remember him a-moving banelings on Shakura's backdoor all the way from his base to the Terran base. Hitting every tank on the way, rofl.

losira is remembered for two things.

a-moving banelings into tanks.
losing his hatchery to every single 2 rax.

and still winning games.

btw has he been 2 raxed yet since his "return"?

Yes. He played Maru in code A and Maru went 11-11 in all 3 games. Losira won 2-1
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movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
June 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#3176
oh man so the winner here get's to play against soulkey?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 07 2013 06:00 GMT
#3177
On June 07 2013 14:58 oniman999 wrote:
I know for me personally, I avoid tanks in TvZ because of vipers. Blinding cloud is really strong against tanks, and every time I am like "Why don't I marine/tanks in TvZ anymore" blinding cloud is like "this is why". I am just a plat level scrub though, so maybe tanks are really effective still at higher level play when you have more speed to unsiege/siege them more often and split marines better and whatnot. Just my 2 cents on the debate.


well i mean, marine tank is good vs roach/hydra comps, since WMs are garbage vs those. but really you can't let them get vipers.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 06:03:57
June 07 2013 06:00 GMT
#3178
On June 07 2013 14:55 DidYuhim wrote:
How in the world Mvp lost to Alicia?


Both times Alicia won by successfully hiding his tech switch to get both colossi and templar. He'd show one and then switch over to the other while MVP built up the counter to the first. MVP then moved into some poor engagements and took heavy losses from the AoE tech he didn't prepare for. Alicia also did a good job of dropping MVP to delay his ability to produce said counter units.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
June 07 2013 06:00 GMT
#3179
On June 07 2013 14:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 14:59 Oboeman wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:57 usethis2 wrote:
On June 07 2013 14:53 Oboeman wrote:
oh man this is the losira i remember. mass roach baneling against anything and just have unbelievably so many units that he can a-move over everything.

this isn't just his answer to bio-mine, this is how he played in wings of liberty too.

Yah I remember him a-moving banelings on Shakura's backdoor all the way from his base to the Terran base. Hitting every tank on the way, rofl.

losira is remembered for two things.

a-moving banelings into tanks.
losing his hatchery to every single 2 rax.

and still winning games.

btw has he been 2 raxed yet since his "return"?

Yes. He played Maru in code A and Maru went 11-11 in all 3 games. Losira won 2-1

haha. did he lose the hatch?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 07 2013 06:00 GMT
#3180
On June 07 2013 14:56 hansonslee wrote:
GODDAMNIT! SO ANGRY AT RYUNG! >: (

Why in the hell didn't Ryung raise his depot and make tanks? Grr... Losira did not deserve to win that!


...but Ryung deserved to win that without making tanks or raising depots?

If he'd done what you said, he would have won that and thus "deserved" the win.
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