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gwapp
Korea (South)2 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote: Yeah he made too many mistakes in the semis and finals, he dropped so many games to silly mistakes. He's going to have to continue to prove himself if he wants that title. We'll find out next weekend if he's on the right path for that title though. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:53 liberate71 wrote: Thanks for letting me know, you probably should have realised that we were talking about the Blizzard Cup in 2011 being a legitimate GSL title before commenting I guess. Well, I stated the obvious because some people keep expecting champions of 2011 to perform today as they did back then. I also didn't know if you were being sarcastic or not (as stated in my initial response). | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:35 tastyminerals wrote: I would like to hear your explanation on why were they ridiculous. Or is it forbidden to think that the finals were rigged just because it ruins all your fun ppl? Well that is an opinion and it is not based on some nonsense.Can you provide logical arguments why a player that clearly dominates 3 games in a row suddenly plays badly 4 games in a row looking absolutely content after that, even smiling, lol? That is all very debatable, so just bear with my opinion please. sorry but no. I hate to say it but Innovation got outplayed and SK exploited his main weakness. Innovation's macro is scary good and his micro/splits are off the chart. Definitely the best(or tied for best). SK realized that he needed to do something to put some doubt into Innovation's mind and he needed something that exploited Innovation's weakness. What is innovation's weakness you say? He uses a greedy strat in the beginning to get into a strong late game position. Once SK all-in'd the first, he probably thought that Innovation wouldn't think he'll do it again so he did and won the second game. At this point, Innovation started doubting that he can win and he decided to try a 2 rax. Whether SK figured that Innovation will try some insane strat to win or he just decided to play more safe and scout around catching it in its midst is unknown but he made a good decision. Once Innovation got completely rattled, he lost his composure and lost in the kind of game he would win in, the macro game. Innovation also seems to have a limited amount of strats that he knows so hopefully he starts to expand, maybe a reaper or banshee etc... | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:41 FakeDeath wrote: What the fuck? I was watching Bogus crushing 3 games and I turn the stream off to watch DSL(expecting Bogus to win) After I check Soulkey made a Reverse all-kill marking the first time in GSL finals History. So what happened? Bogus tilted? Or Soulkey just found a way to stop Bogus HPM? Both. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
He's still a godly Terran. I swear man, people have been calling him a joke or a terrible player for making some gambles/mistakes in a GSL Finals against one of the best Zergs in the world. Likewise when Innovation won the first games, some people were calling Soulkey a terrible player. They don't look so smart anymore, do they? | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:55 PerryHooter wrote: Innovation's reluctance to build tanks to defend cost him the games I guess. Mines just aren't as effective in defending when the zerg knows how to deal with them. I suspect a player like MVP would be able to make such an adjustment to his play between the games, Innovation couldn't. Also, seems Innovation might be slightly overrated in the foreign community. Nevertheless, he'll be a champion one day for sure. LOL first of all. Maybe you should check his recent stats in pro league, look at his vs Z record minus vs Soulkey, and also keep in mind that he is the GSL runner up and made it to the ro4 last GSL before calling someone slightly overrated. | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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nucLeaRTV
Romania822 Posts
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Orek
1665 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:56 BigFan wrote: sorry but no. I hate to say it but Innovation got outplayed and SK exploited his main weakness. Innovation's macro is scary good and his micro/splits are off the chart. Definitely the best(or tied for best). SK realized that he needed to do something to put some doubt into Innovation's mind and he needed something that exploited Innovation's weakness. What is innovation's weakness you say? He uses a greedy strat in the beginning to get into a strong late game position. Once SK all-in'd the first, he probably thought that Innovation wouldn't think he'll do it again so he did and won the second game. At this point, Innovation started doubting that he can win and he decided to try a 2 rax. Whether SK figured that Innovation will try some insane strat to win or he just decided to play more safe and scout around catching it in its midst is unknown but he made a good decision. Once Innovation got completely rattled, he lost his composure and lost in the kind of game he would win in, the macro game. Innovation also seems to have a limited amount of strats that he knows so hopefully he starts to expand, maybe a reaper or banshee etc... He was banned 13min prior to this post of yours. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
yeah, but he can say it all he wants now, because soon we will KNOW, and if, as i hope, Mvp does really well, and i am not saying he will, just that i hope it (as a fan), he will look mighty stupid for just bashing Mvp, the player who has achieved the most in sc2, got called dead and done several times, yet comes back and wins championships. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On June 01 2013 19:00 Orek wrote: He was banned 13min prior to this post of yours. Ouch! That stings LOL | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 01 2013 19:00 Orek wrote: He was banned 13min prior to this post of yours. was he? wish I knew then I wouldn't have wrote an explanation XD | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
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xluik
201 Posts
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1raxexpand
United States165 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:58 BlazeFury01 wrote: LOL first of all. Maybe you should check his recent stats in pro league, look at his vs Z record minus vs Soulkey, and also keep in mind that he is the GSL runner up and made it to the ro4 last GSL before calling someone slightly overrated. proleague is a different format. This series clearly shows that Innovation lacks the strategical depth, adaptability, and mental strength that a true champion must have. Innovation is more like a machine, playing one style perfectly. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On June 01 2013 19:03 Tsubbi wrote: bad news for innovation: no player who got 2nd in his first gsl finals ever became a champion afterwards MMA 0-4 Polt MMA 4-1 Mvp | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
tastyminerals was just banned by KadaverBB. That account was created on 2013-06-01 18:09:21 and had 7 posts. Reason: PBU. Here is a hint, if you want to go unnoticed as a PBU don't start talking about match fixing... He can't reply...for good. | ||
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