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On June 01 2013 18:35 tastyminerals wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:28 liberate71 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:27 tastyminerals wrote:On June 01 2013 18:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 tastyminerals wrote:
SK is clearly a worse player than Innovation, but that will be argued by any forum hero especially now.
I doubt that anyone thought SK was the favourite before the finals.
Still games were not entertaining, I'm happy for SK though, guess I wanted him to win, just not in this kind of fashion. stop trollin dawg. Innovation has one major strength: he doesn't make mistakes. Tonight, he made mistakes. Stop calling trolling reasonable arguments, or should I better point you to how many games has SK won and how many Bogus, should I mention how good Bogus games generally are and how good are SK ones? You have 4 posts, all of them are completely ridiculous. It's pretty safe to say that you are a troll. If you arent, then god have mercy on your soul. I would like to hear your explanation on why were they ridiculous. Or is it forbidden to think that the finals were rigged just because it ruins all your fun ppl? Well that is an opinion and it is not based on some nonsense.Can you provide logical arguments why a player that clearly dominates 3 games in a row suddenly plays badly 4 games in a row looking absolutely glad after that? That is all very debatable, so just bear with my opinion please.
Because people choke? Imagine being up 3-0 and everything is going super well and you start to think "Holy shit I am actually going to be a GSL champion. And then you lose that game because of different thoughts. Try to start focusing again and then start to do desperation moves.
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On June 01 2013 18:37 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:34 IshinShishi wrote:On June 01 2013 18:29 AyMnRSC2 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:27 armada[sb] wrote:
I'm sorry, but anyone that doesn't think that Soulkey played well in that last game is an idiot. He completely shut down those hellbat drops, I mean, 4 drones killed for investing in 3+medivacs with hellbats? That's great defense. And yeah, innovation didn't repair his cc, but guess what, he was a little busy trying to defend his main and his third at the same time on fucking Daybreak with bio while macro'ing, let's see any of you do that in a finals situation in game 7 with the series on the line. Please. Be careful, you are tempting this thread by complaining about any of the following: 1) This series was the "worst" ever. 2) Innovation is the best ever and should have won 4-0 but stupid SK all ins. or 3) Saying anything positive about Soulkey actually winning instead of Innovation throwing. That was just poor casting though, those drops were cost effective enough, they killed a ton of lings that could've been drones. So add: "4) Tastosis are terrible" to your list, AyMnRSC2.
Hahaha, nah I can't do that. They are too nice of guys for anyone to say they are terrible. That would just be blasphemy!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:38 opterown wrote:
this thread is taking a turn for the worse
Right on schedule!
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:36 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:35 tastyminerals wrote:On June 01 2013 18:28 liberate71 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:27 tastyminerals wrote:On June 01 2013 18:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 tastyminerals wrote:
SK is clearly a worse player than Innovation, but that will be argued by any forum hero especially now.
I doubt that anyone thought SK was the favourite before the finals.
Still games were not entertaining, I'm happy for SK though, guess I wanted him to win, just not in this kind of fashion. stop trollin dawg. Innovation has one major strength: he doesn't make mistakes. Tonight, he made mistakes. Stop calling trolling reasonable arguments, or should I better point you to how many games has SK won and how many Bogus, should I mention how good Bogus games generally are and how good are SK ones? You have 4 posts, all of them are completely ridiculous. It's pretty safe to say that you are a troll. If you arent, then god have mercy on your soul. I would like to hear your explanation on why were they ridiculous. Or is it forbidden to think that the finals were rigged just because it ruins all your fun ppl? Well that is an opinion and it is not based on some nonsense.Can you provide logical arguments why a player that clearly dominates 3 games in a row suddenly plays badly 4 games in a row? That is all very debatable, so just bear with my opinion please. He's a finals choker like Squirtle or MKP, that would be the most logical assumption.
Please oh please don't let my heart get broken by another MKP 
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On June 01 2013 18:36 Defacer wrote:
Innovation couldn't adapt to the roach baneling-all in, gambled on a practiced cheese, and had a brain fart in game 7.If he hadn't flown those 3 dropships into those mutas the game would have been completely different.
I still think Innovation might be the better player, but I think losing a 3-0 lead rattled him a bit. And you have to give Soulkey credit for hanging in there and not buckling under the pressure.
It's easy to say, after the fact. Soulkey mind gamed Innovation hard to bait those 3 Medivac. Soulkeys mutalisk were on the bottom right side of the map and it appeared that he was going straight for Innovations main base. Seeing Soulkeys mutalisk out of position, Innovation went for the 3 Medivac drop and didn't anticipate that Soulkeys mutalisk would be waiting there. It wasn't a brain fart at all, just a misread from being mind game.
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On June 01 2013 18:38 opterown wrote:
this thread is taking a turn for the worse
yea the bogus fanboy infestation has been steadily growing the past few months...
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On June 01 2013 18:37 Xercen wrote:
Soulkey: Excellent
Innovation: Bogus
innovation threw the series! why didn't u make tank?
Because he didn't innovate. Durrrr.
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On June 01 2013 18:35 tastyminerals wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:28 liberate71 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:27 tastyminerals wrote:On June 01 2013 18:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 tastyminerals wrote:
SK is clearly a worse player than Innovation, but that will be argued by any forum hero especially now.
I doubt that anyone thought SK was the favourite before the finals.
Still games were not entertaining, I'm happy for SK though, guess I wanted him to win, just not in this kind of fashion. stop trollin dawg. Innovation has one major strength: he doesn't make mistakes. Tonight, he made mistakes. Stop calling trolling reasonable arguments, or should I better point you to how many games has SK won and how many Bogus, should I mention how good Bogus games generally are and how good are SK ones? You have 4 posts, all of them are completely ridiculous. It's pretty safe to say that you are a troll. If you arent, then god have mercy on your soul. I would like to hear your explanation on why were they ridiculous. Or is it forbidden to think that the finals were rigged just because it ruins all your fun ppl? Well that is an opinion and it is not based on some nonsense.Can you provide logical arguments why a player that clearly dominates 3 games in a row suddenly plays badly 4 games in a row looking absolutely glad after that? That is all very debatable, so just bear with my opinion please.
If the finals were rigged, why would they revolve around an 11/11, a failed 11/11, a couple of roach/bling busts and zero 'late' game?
Maybe Innovation has the ability to keep his cool? Did you see him win the semis? he barely smirked any more than he did when he did the 11/11 in Game 1.
Youre opinion, whilst you are entitled to it, is very outrageous
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On June 01 2013 18:37 Xercen wrote:
Soulkey: Excellent
Innovation: Bogus
innovation threw the series! why didn't u make tank?
In both of Soulkey's allin games he saw it too late for tanks to be any better than 2-4 mines.
Also, tanks are a lot more expensive in gas, so mines are a lot better for upgrades/medivac production
Blind making tanks screws over any aggression attempts earlygame (and, if you overmake them, leads to viper murder).
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On June 01 2013 18:37 armada[sb] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:35 tastyminerals wrote:On June 01 2013 18:28 liberate71 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:27 tastyminerals wrote:On June 01 2013 18:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 tastyminerals wrote:
SK is clearly a worse player than Innovation, but that will be argued by any forum hero especially now.
I doubt that anyone thought SK was the favourite before the finals.
Still games were not entertaining, I'm happy for SK though, guess I wanted him to win, just not in this kind of fashion. stop trollin dawg. Innovation has one major strength: he doesn't make mistakes. Tonight, he made mistakes. Stop calling trolling reasonable arguments, or should I better point you to how many games has SK won and how many Bogus, should I mention how good Bogus games generally are and how good are SK ones? You have 4 posts, all of them are completely ridiculous. It's pretty safe to say that you are a troll. If you arent, then god have mercy on your soul. I would like to hear your explanation on why were they ridiculous. Or is it forbidden to think that the finals were rigged just because that ruins all your fun ppl? Well that is an opinion and it is not based on some nonsense.Can you provide logical arguments why a player that clearly dominates 3 games in a row suddenly plays badly 4 games in a row? That is all very debatable, so just bear with my opinion please. Because it happens? And because it's not like Innovation played perfectly? He made plenty of mistakes in the first couple games, despite Tastosis' constant circlejerking of his play. Why would they rig it? These things happen from time to time, sometimes you have comebacks, and sometimes they're epic. But, maybe, you could explain to us what reason you have to believe that there was match fixing involved, other than the fact that you're just entirely too butthurt over your favorite player losing.
Most match fixing is done by a single party (See: Shoeless Joe and the Blacksox or the infamous sAviOr...). I doubt any of the series was thrown by Innovation, but his play was definitely not up to par. Besides, it isn't like SC2 is in a monetary position rivaling that of BW during sAviOr's time to warrant match fixing just yet. Terrible series though from an objective look at the games.
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On June 01 2013 18:39 EpiK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:38 opterown wrote:
this thread is taking a turn for the worse yea the bogus fanboy infestation has been steadily growing the past few months...
let's turn the page.
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A Zerg wins a GSL? Shocker 
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On June 01 2013 18:35 tastyminerals wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:28 liberate71 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:27 tastyminerals wrote:On June 01 2013 18:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 tastyminerals wrote:
SK is clearly a worse player than Innovation, but that will be argued by any forum hero especially now.
I doubt that anyone thought SK was the favourite before the finals.
Still games were not entertaining, I'm happy for SK though, guess I wanted him to win, just not in this kind of fashion. stop trollin dawg. Innovation has one major strength: he doesn't make mistakes. Tonight, he made mistakes. Stop calling trolling reasonable arguments, or should I better point you to how many games has SK won and how many Bogus, should I mention how good Bogus games generally are and how good are SK ones? You have 4 posts, all of them are completely ridiculous. It's pretty safe to say that you are a troll. If you arent, then god have mercy on your soul. I would like to hear your explanation on why were they ridiculous. Or is it forbidden to think that the finals were rigged just because it ruins all your fun ppl? Well that is an opinion and it is not based on some nonsense.Can you provide logical arguments why a player that clearly dominates 3 games in a row suddenly plays badly 4 games in a row looking absolutely content after that, even smiling, lol? That is all very debatable, so just bear with my opinion please.
No, no one should have to bear with your opinion. There is no freedom of speech here, and people who spew such complete trash have absolutely nothing to contribute to this community.
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On June 01 2013 18:39 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:39 EpiK wrote:On June 01 2013 18:38 opterown wrote:
this thread is taking a turn for the worse yea the bogus fanboy infestation has been steadily growing the past few months... let's turn the page.
I won't, Innovation is still monstrous in my book. :p
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On June 01 2013 18:39 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:37 Xercen wrote:
Soulkey: Excellent
Innovation: Bogus
innovation threw the series! why didn't u make tank? In both of Soulkey's allin games he saw it too late for tanks to be any better than 2-4 mines. Also, tanks are a lot more expensive in gas, so mines are a lot better for upgrades/medivac production Blind making tanks screws over any aggression attempts earlygame (and, if you overmake them, leads to viper murder).
I don't know man. The way MVP played Mech in WCS EU looked pretty impenetrable. Then again, it is map specific. It's better to play safe when you're up 3-0 than to play greedy. Just bad game planning by Innovation.
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What the fuck?
I was watching Bogus crushing 3 games and I turn the stream off to watch DSL(expecting Bogus to win)
After I check Soulkey made a Reverse all-kill marking the first time in GSL finals History.
So what happened?
Bogus tilted?
Or Soulkey just found a way to stop Bogus HPM?
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Poland3751 Posts
On June 01 2013 18:31 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:29 nimdil wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 scypio wrote:On June 01 2013 18:18 nimdil wrote:On June 01 2013 18:14 Targe wrote:On June 01 2013 18:11 nimdil wrote:On June 01 2013 17:57 scypio wrote:This is a hearbreaking moment... we endured so much whining... widow mines OP. Hellbats OP. Terran needs to be nerfed etc etc... only to get fifth Zerg GSL champion in a row. TT  Life Sniper Life Roro Soulkey well done. Blizzard cup is not gsl. Get over it... lol Blizzard cups count as GSL. Since when? Since it is http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_GSL_Blizzard_Cup Well they are named the same but they hardly compare to each other in terms of format and hardness. Yeah, you have to get into regular GSL Code S and perform well there to get into GSL Blizzard Cup. Therefore GSL Blizzard cup does not count as GSL as it is clearly easier. LOL.
Or win Dreamhack.
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For everyone complaining about Innovation "choking"; Soulkey far more prone to giving up after being 0-3. Major props for him to keep his cool, and coming back.
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