On May 10 2013 18:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Whelp just traded First for Byul...
let's see how it goes. -_-
Byul was improving so much on fnatic (pretty much the only one on their team to do so...), I had tremendous hopes when he joined IM, but it hasn't happened yet :/
On May 10 2013 18:40 GameHeart wrote: Yes someone is accidentally making the circles and doesn't know the hotkey to hide them or delete them.
The hotkey for drawing circles is Ctrl, I wonder what he is using it for that is causing him to accidentally draw.
ctrl + click to select all the units ? He just made antoher circle lol
Hmm I didn't know that was something observers used often. I will have to rethink the GameHeart hotkeys for next update. There is a button to disable all drawing in the settings though so they could just click that and not worry about it.
On May 10 2013 19:15 Rhedsa wrote: Is there a "correct" answer or build to shut down this 2collus push? haven't faced it yet, but it hits at an akward time for zergis ^^
Scout it and engage on the map early with roaches, the P army isn't very big when it first moves out.
On May 10 2013 19:15 Rhedsa wrote: Is there a "correct" answer or build to shut down this 2collus push? haven't faced it yet, but it hits at an akward time for zergis ^^
Seems kinda like the "correct" response to immortal allin - there isn't really one, comes down to engagements/couterattacks I think.
On May 10 2013 19:14 Jerom wrote: Will this strat become the new Sentry immortal all in ?
only if zergs are greedy and go double evo chamber while rushing to hive with only zerlings . you saw that roach warren timing ? 8 or 9 minutes ? and no range upgrade for zerg .
is normal for protoss to do a timing when the metagame is at a point where it works . when zergs will stop using 2 base double upgraded zerlings into 3 base rush to hive into ultras . then protoss will stop doing this timing IMO .
On May 10 2013 19:20 opterown wrote: so what is different in HOTS that makes this a good build that we didn't see in WOL often?
the double evolution chamber late 3'd into ultra ( rush to hive ) . this style makes this build so good . kicks right before ultras . and zerg have only zerlings with1/1 . or ofc you can throw down a roach warren @ 9 minutes and try to make 21 roaches with no upgrades like bongbong did but it wont work .
viOLet spawns in the bottom right Yonghwa spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min Yonghwa starts with pylon at his natural and early scout + hatch block (not Parting clutch though) while nexus first viOLet opens 15 pool, delayed hatch
Yonghwa adds forge, gateway and cannon to wall the natural viOLet going straight for B3 and gets map control with first few lings
viOLet spawns in the bottom right Yonghwa spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min Yonghwa starts with pylon at his natural and early scout + hatch block (not Parting clutch though) while nexus first viOLet opens 15 pool, delayed hatch
Yonghwa adds forge, gateway and cannon to wall the natural viOLet going straight for B3 and gets map control with first few lings
4:00 - 7:00min Yonghwa adds a cybernetics core and probes, still no units. viOLet also droning a lot
Yonghwa going for stargate, more gas and a first stalker viOLet drones and gets his gas
viOLet spawns in the bottom right Yonghwa spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min Yonghwa starts with pylon at his natural and early scout + hatch block (not Parting clutch though) while nexus first viOLet opens 15 pool, delayed hatch
Yonghwa adds forge, gateway and cannon to wall the natural viOLet going straight for B3 and gets map control with first few lings
4:00 - 7:00min Yonghwa adds a cybernetics core and probes, still no units. viOLet also droning a lot
Yonghwa going for stargate, more gas and a first stalker viOLet drones and gets his gas
Yonghwa gets a phoenix and +1 attack
7:00 - 10:00 viOLet upgrades his lair Yonghwa gets more phoenixes and kills overlords while getting his robo
viOLet gets 2 spores on each base, zergling speed, +1 armor and roach warren Yonghwa starts harassing with 4 phoenixes, but viOLet is prepared
Roach speed on the way for viOLet who starts pumping roaches (20) Yonghwa gets his robotics bay and puts down a 3rd nexus
viOLet spawns in the bottom right Yonghwa spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min Yonghwa starts with pylon at his natural and early scout + hatch block (not Parting clutch though) while nexus first viOLet opens 15 pool, delayed hatch
Yonghwa adds forge, gateway and cannon to wall the natural viOLet going straight for B3 and gets map control with first few lings
4:00 - 7:00min Yonghwa adds a cybernetics core and probes, still no units. viOLet also droning a lot
Yonghwa going for stargate, more gas and a first stalker viOLet drones and gets his gas
Yonghwa gets a phoenix and +1 attack
7:00 - 10:00 viOLet upgrades his lair Yonghwa gets more phoenixes and kills overlords while getting his robo
viOLet gets 2 spores on each base, zergling speed, +1 armor and roach warren Yonghwa starts harassing with 4 phoenixes, but viOLet is prepared
Roach speed on the way for viOLet who starts pumping roaches (20) Yonghwa gets his robotics bay and puts down a 3rd nexus
10:00 - 13:00 First colossus preparing for Yonghwa as well as Thermal Lance viOLet moving with his roaches to the 3rd of Yonghwa and gets the cancel
viOLet has many roaches, kills the cyber core and the forge colossus gets out and with the nexus cannon, he can push viOLet back for now
viOLet getting a 4th and a spire Yonghwa has a 2nd collossus, and his phoenixes killing roaches 1 by 1
On May 10 2013 19:15 opterown wrote: hrm, strange, i saw him looking down after the cut to bboong's shot
just saw your comment. Why are you saying that I'm being snide?
snide /snīd/ Adjective
Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: "snide remarks". (of a person) Devious and underhanded.
I believe he was referencing the comment you made about Kpop in le OP
ohhh that.
That comment was not directed just at opterown though. There are a lot of other LR OPs who don't put in KPOP. I wasn't singling opterown out.
it's still snide
and we've been over this already seeker
I agree that we've discussed this before.
I'll drop it. It just annoys me to death that some people do and some people don't. It doesn't take that long and it's very helpful. Everyone should put KPOP in the OP imo.
viOLet spawns in the bottom right Yonghwa spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min Yonghwa starts with pylon at his natural and early scout + hatch block (not Parting clutch though) while nexus first viOLet opens 15 pool, delayed hatch
Yonghwa adds forge, gateway and cannon to wall the natural viOLet going straight for B3 and gets map control with first few lings
4:00 - 7:00min Yonghwa adds a cybernetics core and probes, still no units. viOLet also droning a lot
Yonghwa going for stargate, more gas and a first stalker viOLet drones and gets his gas
Yonghwa gets a phoenix and +1 attack
7:00 - 10:00 viOLet upgrades his lair Yonghwa gets more phoenixes and kills overlords while getting his robo
viOLet gets 2 spores on each base, zergling speed, +1 armor and roach warren Yonghwa starts harassing with 4 phoenixes, but viOLet is prepared
Roach speed on the way for viOLet who starts pumping roaches (20) Yonghwa gets his robotics bay and puts down a 3rd nexus
10:00 - 13:00 First colossus preparing for Yonghwa as well as Thermal Lance viOLet moving with his roaches to the 3rd of Yonghwa and gets the cancel
viOLet has many roaches, kills the cyber core and the forge colossus gets out and with the nexus cannon, he can push viOLet back for now
viOLet getting a 4th and a spire Yonghwa has a 2nd collossus, and his phoenixes killing roaches 1 by 1
13:00 - viOLet gets a lot of corruptors (~10) and +1 air attack Yonghwa is adding void rays to his composition
viOLet is very aggressive, attacks Yonghwa head on, 2 collossi die, viOLet loses many roaches, but he has so many of them that he wins the ground battle, and kills harvesters Lings runby in Yonghwa's main
viOLet switches to mutalisks building 20 at once while Yonghwa is getting more collossi/zealots to survive the zerglings viOLet getting +2 attack air and melee
Yonghwa tries to defend against the mutas, but he doesn't have enough, and he has to GG
On May 10 2013 19:36 Jerom wrote: After so much zerg bs in WoL is still hurts my soul to see zergs win.. I genuinely hate zerg players because of it XD
It's only the deserving zergs who does well now. There was a lot of terran bs in 2010-2011 WoL as well. So you only cheer for tosses?
On May 10 2013 19:15 opterown wrote: hrm, strange, i saw him looking down after the cut to bboong's shot
just saw your comment. Why are you saying that I'm being snide?
snide /snīd/ Adjective
Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: "snide remarks". (of a person) Devious and underhanded.
I believe he was referencing the comment you made about Kpop in le OP
ohhh that.
That comment was not directed just at opterown though. There are a lot of other LR OPs who don't put in KPOP. I wasn't singling opterown out.
it's still snide
and we've been over this already seeker
I agree that we've discussed this before.
I'll drop it. It just annoys me to death that some people do and some people don't. It doesn't take that long and it's very helpful. Everyone should put KPOP in the OP imo.
well it annoys me when some people don't really do the OPs properly but i don't really whine about it very often
On May 10 2013 19:15 opterown wrote: hrm, strange, i saw him looking down after the cut to bboong's shot
just saw your comment. Why are you saying that I'm being snide?
snide /snīd/ Adjective
Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: "snide remarks". (of a person) Devious and underhanded.
I believe he was referencing the comment you made about Kpop in le OP
ohhh that.
That comment was not directed just at opterown though. There are a lot of other LR OPs who don't put in KPOP. I wasn't singling opterown out.
it's still snide
and we've been over this already seeker
I agree that we've discussed this before.
I'll drop it. It just annoys me to death that some people do and some people don't. It doesn't take that long and it's very helpful. Everyone should put KPOP in the OP imo.
well it annoys me when some people don't really do the OPs properly but i don't really whine about it very often
Meh. That's life. Not everyone does what should be done :/
Those who post the thread choose how much effort to put in to it. Including time. I know opterown prepares the LR's in advance, but it is hard to demand too much from free labour.
I believe he was referencing the comment you made about Kpop in le OP
ohhh that.
That comment was not directed just at opterown though. There are a lot of other LR OPs who don't put in KPOP. I wasn't singling opterown out.
it's still snide
and we've been over this already seeker
Please dont fight, I dont want to be known as the one who made the LR thread where Seeker and Opter broke up.
it's ok we've been through worse you're doing a great job dwdw
On May 10 2013 19:30 Kasaraki wrote:
On May 10 2013 19:29 Lorning wrote:
On May 10 2013 19:27 opterown wrote:
On May 10 2013 19:26 Seeker wrote: [quote] ohhh that.
That comment was not directed just at opterown though. There are a lot of other LR OPs who don't put in KPOP. I wasn't singling opterown out.
it's still snide
and we've been over this already seeker
Please dont fight, I dont want to be known as the one who made the LR thread where Seeker and Opter broke up.
It's never nice to see Mom and Dad fight.
oh yuck
ah nice one :D
The LR family with Mama Seeker and Daddy opterown and their house-bot Shellshock
Idunno, Shellshock would be more like the "special" son.
and you are like the weird uncle who shows up from time to time
More like the really cool and funny uncle that shows up every once in a while to make everyone's life more interesting AMIRITE
I'm sorry, but you're the cleaning lady.
nah KAG is the eccentric uncle who betrayed the family!
On May 10 2013 19:47 Grovbolle wrote: To be fair Seeker and opterown.
Those who post the thread choose how much effort to put in to it. Including time. I know opterown prepares the LR's in advance, but it is hard to demand too much from free labour.
i know, i don't demand it. haven't whined about a poor OP in a while
but it is undeniably more important that an OP is run well compared to adding kpop lol
On May 10 2013 19:30 opterown wrote: [quote] it's ok we've been through worse you're doing a great job dwdw
[quote] oh yuck
ah nice one :D
The LR family with Mama Seeker and Daddy opterown and their house-bot Shellshock
Idunno, Shellshock would be more like the "special" son.
and you are like the weird uncle who shows up from time to time
More like the really cool and funny uncle that shows up every once in a while to make everyone's life more interesting AMIRITE
I'm sorry, but you're the cleaning lady.
nah KAG is the eccentric uncle who betrayed the family!
I wouldn't call it betrayal. More along the lines of "Two-timing whore". Or "three-timing" if you count Dota 2.
so long as it's not league i'm cool with having you over for family dinners and catchups hehe
Well this just got awkward
i'm sure you're just going through the teenage rebellious years where you try to form your identity, we will welcome you back with open arms when you realise the error of your ways!
On May 10 2013 19:49 KristofferAG wrote: I don't even recognize your username, you have no say in this matter.
You'd be an awful cleaning lady anyways.
Yeah, I'd just sleep with the lady of the house and blackmail her for money.
nice.
Yeah, cleaning lady is like the best job ever, if porn is a trustable source.
And I believe it is.
Depends on the site though. There are some pretty messed up sites.
Have I heard... from friends...
This LR reminds me of a family dinner with my ex-girlfriend's family. You have no idea how damn close the discussion here is getting to that. It's almost a deja-vu
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
4:00 - 7:00 Gateway for First, before adding a cyber core and getting a zealot viOLet droning hard, spreading creep and droning harder still
First getting a stalker and researching warp gate. viOLet gets 2 gas, more drones and a spine at his 3rd
First researches +1 attack and takes his 3rd, as well as more gas Both players being greedy
On May 10 2013 19:49 KristofferAG wrote: I don't even recognize your username, you have no say in this matter.
You'd be an awful cleaning lady anyways.
Yeah, I'd just sleep with the lady of the house and blackmail her for money.
nice.
Yeah, cleaning lady is like the best job ever, if porn is a trustable source.
And I believe it is.
Depends on the site though. There are some pretty messed up sites.
Have I heard... from friends...
This LR reminds me of a family dinner with my ex-girlfriend's family. You have no idea how damn close the discussion here is getting to that. It's almost a deja-vu
The best part about this small reminder is the fact that she is your ex.
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
4:00 - 7:00 Gateway for First, before adding a cyber core and getting a zealot viOLet droning hard, spreading creep and droning harder still
First getting a stalker and researching warp gate. viOLet gets 2 gas, more drones and a spine at his 3rd
First researches +1 attack and takes his 3rd, as well as more gas Both players being greedy
7:00 - 10:00 Twilight council for First, getting scouted by viOLet viOLet upgrades to lair, gets 2* evo chamber and zergling speed
First researches blink, adds more gates. +1/+1 range for viOlet, and a hydra den
First adds still 3 more gates, scouted by viOLet viOLet gets hydra range and 8 first hydras
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
4:00 - 7:00 Gateway for First, before adding a cyber core and getting a zealot viOLet droning hard, spreading creep and droning harder still
First getting a stalker and researching warp gate. viOLet gets 2 gas, more drones and a spine at his 3rd
First researches +1 attack and takes his 3rd, as well as more gas Both players being greedy
7:00 - 10:00 Twilight council for First, getting scouted by viOLet viOLet upgrades to lair, gets 2* evo chamber and zergling speed
First researches blink, adds more gates. +1/+1 range for viOlet, and a hydra den
First adds still 3 more gates, scouted by viOLet viOLet gets hydra range and 8 first hydras
10:00 - 14:00 First adds a dark shrine while blink is near completion First moves out with many sentries and stalkes, viOlet has lings/hydras with range
First doesn't engage in front of viOLet's 3rd and goes back, and adds robotics + robo bay viOLet adds more gas/drones, and upgrades swarm hosts.
First drop DTs in viOLet's bases, who has no detection. At the same time, he gets his first 2 colossi, thermal lance and +2 DTs get cleaned, but 20 drones killed
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
4:00 - 7:00 Gateway for First, before adding a cyber core and getting a zealot viOLet droning hard, spreading creep and droning harder still
First getting a stalker and researching warp gate. viOLet gets 2 gas, more drones and a spine at his 3rd
First researches +1 attack and takes his 3rd, as well as more gas Both players being greedy
7:00 - 10:00 Twilight council for First, getting scouted by viOLet viOLet upgrades to lair, gets 2* evo chamber and zergling speed
First researches blink, adds more gates. +1/+1 range for viOlet, and a hydra den
First adds still 3 more gates, scouted by viOLet viOLet gets hydra range and 8 first hydras
10:00 - 14:00 First adds a dark shrine while blink is near completion First moves out with many sentries and stalkes, viOlet has lings/hydras with range
First doesn't engage in front of viOLet's 3rd and goes back, and adds robotics + robo bay viOLet adds more gas/drones, and upgrades swarm hosts.
First drop DTs in viOLet's bases, who has no detection. At the same time, he gets his first 2 colossi, thermal lance and +2 DTs get cleaned, but 20 drones killed
viOLet gets his 4th base anyway
14:00 - 17:00 viOLet gets 12 swarm hosts, and burrows them in the middle of the map First gets his 4th base too and destroys the rocks of viOLet's 3rd with his 4 colossi force
viOLet defends with lings/hydras, getting many corruptors now Fight at the bottom of viOLet's ramp, First has to go back
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
4:00 - 7:00 Gateway for First, before adding a cyber core and getting a zealot viOLet droning hard, spreading creep and droning harder still
First getting a stalker and researching warp gate. viOLet gets 2 gas, more drones and a spine at his 3rd
First researches +1 attack and takes his 3rd, as well as more gas Both players being greedy
7:00 - 10:00 Twilight council for First, getting scouted by viOLet viOLet upgrades to lair, gets 2* evo chamber and zergling speed
First researches blink, adds more gates. +1/+1 range for viOlet, and a hydra den
First adds still 3 more gates, scouted by viOLet viOLet gets hydra range and 8 first hydras
10:00 - 14:00 First adds a dark shrine while blink is near completion First moves out with many sentries and stalkes, viOlet has lings/hydras with range
First doesn't engage in front of viOLet's 3rd and goes back, and adds robotics + robo bay viOLet adds more gas/drones, and upgrades swarm hosts.
First drop DTs in viOLet's bases, who has no detection. At the same time, he gets his first 2 colossi, thermal lance and +2 DTs get cleaned, but 20 drones killed
viOLet gets his 4th base anyway
14:00 - 17:00 viOLet gets 12 swarm hosts, and burrows them in the middle of the map First gets his 4th base too and destroys the rocks of viOLet's 3rd with his 4 colossi force
viOLet defends with lings/hydras, getting many corruptors now Fight at the bottom of viOLet's ramp, First has to go back
17:00 - First has already 6 colossi, adding 2 more while viOLet has 15 corruptors. Blink stalkers snipe the spire, and First adds 3 stargates and 2* warp prism
viOLet has 17 swarm hosts, and moves out to siege First. First sends more DTs and kills lots of drones in different bases
First attacks viOLet from behind, gets to the swarm hosts and kills them all. viOLet has no economy and no more army, he has to GG
So weird, someone wins a PvZ which they'd clearly been practicing. Then they're in turn sniped by the race they're most prepared against in the last 3 games....
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
4:00 - 7:00 Gateway for First, before adding a cyber core and getting a zealot viOLet droning hard, spreading creep and droning harder still
First getting a stalker and researching warp gate. viOLet gets 2 gas, more drones and a spine at his 3rd
First researches +1 attack and takes his 3rd, as well as more gas Both players being greedy
7:00 - 10:00 Twilight council for First, getting scouted by viOLet viOLet upgrades to lair, gets 2* evo chamber and zergling speed
First researches blink, adds more gates. +1/+1 range for viOlet, and a hydra den
First adds still 3 more gates, scouted by viOLet viOLet gets hydra range and 8 first hydras
10:00 - 14:00 First adds a dark shrine while blink is near completion First moves out with many sentries and stalkes, viOlet has lings/hydras with range
First doesn't engage in front of viOLet's 3rd and goes back, and adds robotics + robo bay viOLet adds more gas/drones, and upgrades swarm hosts.
First drop DTs in viOLet's bases, who has no detection. At the same time, he gets his first 2 colossi, thermal lance and +2 DTs get cleaned, but 20 drones killed
viOLet gets his 4th base anyway
14:00 - 17:00 viOLet gets 12 swarm hosts, and burrows them in the middle of the map First gets his 4th base too and destroys the rocks of viOLet's 3rd with his 4 colossi force
viOLet defends with lings/hydras, getting many corruptors now Fight at the bottom of viOLet's ramp, First has to go back
17:00 - First has already 6 colossi, adding 2 more while viOLet has 15 corruptors. Blink stalkers snipe the spire, and First adds 3 stargates and 2* warp prism
viOLet has 17 swarm hosts, and moves out to siege First. First sends more DTs and kills lots of drones in different bases
First attacks viOLet from behind, gets to the swarm hosts and kills them all. viOLet has no economy and no more army, he has to GG
I read a certain conversation between PartinG and Sleep through PartinG's twitter. I think Sleep has to go to the army. Perhaps AZUBU is letting him play a GSTL match before that happens.
On May 10 2013 20:14 Seeker wrote: I read a certain conversation between PartinG and Sleep through PartinG's twitter. I think Sleep has to go to the army. Perhaps AZUBU is letting him play a GSTL match before that happens.
Wouldn't they have sent him first or second if that was the goal?
viOLet spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with early scout (probe with 1 follower, 0 tweets), pylon at natural, forge first, then nexus viOLet opens 14 pool, 16 hatch
viOLet gets his first 2 scouting lings and drops the 3rd base.
4:00 - 7:00 Gateway for First, before adding a cyber core and getting a zealot viOLet droning hard, spreading creep and droning harder still
First getting a stalker and researching warp gate. viOLet gets 2 gas, more drones and a spine at his 3rd
First researches +1 attack and takes his 3rd, as well as more gas Both players being greedy
7:00 - 10:00 Twilight council for First, getting scouted by viOLet viOLet upgrades to lair, gets 2* evo chamber and zergling speed
First researches blink, adds more gates. +1/+1 range for viOlet, and a hydra den
First adds still 3 more gates, scouted by viOLet viOLet gets hydra range and 8 first hydras
10:00 - 14:00 First adds a dark shrine while blink is near completion First moves out with many sentries and stalkes, viOlet has lings/hydras with range
First doesn't engage in front of viOLet's 3rd and goes back, and adds robotics + robo bay viOLet adds more gas/drones, and upgrades swarm hosts.
First drop DTs in viOLet's bases, who has no detection. At the same time, he gets his first 2 colossi, thermal lance and +2 DTs get cleaned, but 20 drones killed
viOLet gets his 4th base anyway
14:00 - 17:00 viOLet gets 12 swarm hosts, and burrows them in the middle of the map First gets his 4th base too and destroys the rocks of viOLet's 3rd with his 4 colossi force
viOLet defends with lings/hydras, getting many corruptors now Fight at the bottom of viOLet's ramp, First has to go back
17:00 - First has already 6 colossi, adding 2 more while viOLet has 15 corruptors. Blink stalkers snipe the spire, and First adds 3 stargates and 2* warp prism
viOLet has 17 swarm hosts, and moves out to siege First. First sends more DTs and kills lots of drones in different bases
First attacks viOLet from behind, gets to the swarm hosts and kills them all. viOLet has no economy and no more army, he has to GG
Actually if Sleep has prepared some brutal ZvP strats it's pretty smart to send him out now. IM probably wants to end with Squirtle, so if Sleep wins, they offer the choice of going for Squirtle and facing Sleep's preparation, or going for someone else who wasn't as prepared to play... I guess?
On May 10 2013 20:17 skaffaNL wrote: Can anyone tell me where IM_MVP is?
I havent seen him in a while
Mvp was pretty bad in GSTL even during his peak. When both him and Nestea was god-tier LGIM still had trouble in GSTL. And now it's even worse so I don't even think he bothers to show up to GSTL matches.
Sleep spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 6:00min First starts with a pylon, gateway, gas, pylon block Sleep into cyber core block, and cyber core Sleep opens 15 pool, 24 hatch (delayed)
First adds a nexus, gas, and walls the main with 2 gates Sleep gets zergling speed
On May 10 2013 20:17 skaffaNL wrote: Can anyone tell me where IM_MVP is?
I havent seen him in a while
Mvp was pretty bad in GSTL even during his peak. When both him and Nestea was god-tier LGIM still had trouble in GSTL. And now it's even worse so I don't even think he bothers to show up to GSTL matches.
I don't think he has ever missed a match and is on the bench atm. They won't use him with so many other players who have very little to prepare for atm imo.
Sleep spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 6:00min First starts with a pylon, gateway, gas, pylon block Sleep into cyber core block, and cyber core Sleep opens 15 pool, 24 hatch (delayed)
First adds a nexus, gas, and walls the main with 2 gates Sleep gets zergling speed
6:00 - 9:00 Sleep gets evo chamber*2 First starts a very late warp gate research after having forgotten it
First adds 4 more gates (8 total) preparing for a push Sleep takes a 3rd, researches +1/+1 melee, and adds zerglings and spores
Sleep getting Lair, and First moves out with sentries/zealots
Excellent mindgame by Sleep. Using a weird map choice and build to bait the opponent into Core Blocking his natural, which leads to the toss forgetting to research warpgate.
Sleep spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 6:00min First starts with a pylon, gateway, gas, pylon block Sleep into cyber core block, and cyber core Sleep opens 15 pool, 24 hatch (delayed)
First adds a nexus, gas, and walls the main with 2 gates Sleep gets zergling speed
6:00 - 9:00 Sleep gets evo chamber*2 First starts a very late warp gate research after having forgotten it
First adds 4 more gates (8 total) preparing for a push Sleep takes a 3rd, researches +1/+1 melee, and adds zerglings and spores
Sleep getting Lair, and First moves out with sentries/zealots
9:00 - 12:00 Sleep sends zerglings at First, but they are blocked by the wall First moves in, forces the drones to be taken out of the 3rd
the queens/lings try to defend on top of the natural ramp Roaches added for Sleep, he focuses the sentries which all die.
First adding more sentries/stalkers, pushed back from the natural but killing the 3rd now Sleep is technig to swarm hosts, and First is getting 2 stargates
Sleep spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 6:00min First starts with a pylon, gateway, gas, pylon block Sleep into cyber core block, and cyber core Sleep opens 15 pool, 24 hatch (delayed)
First adds a nexus, gas, and walls the main with 2 gates Sleep gets zergling speed
6:00 - 9:00 Sleep gets evo chamber*2 First starts a very late warp gate research after having forgotten it
First adds 4 more gates (8 total) preparing for a push Sleep takes a 3rd, researches +1/+1 melee, and adds zerglings and spores
Sleep getting Lair, and First moves out with sentries/zealots
9:00 - 12:00 Sleep sends zerglings at First, but they are blocked by the wall First moves in, forces the drones to be taken out of the 3rd
the queens/lings try to defend on top of the natural ramp Roaches added for Sleep, he focuses the sentries which all die.
First adding more sentries/stalkers, pushed back from the natural but killing the 3rd now Sleep is technig to swarm hosts, and First is getting 2 stargates
12:00 - 15:00 phoenixes from the stargates for First, and +1 attack Sleep taking his 3rd back, and getting his first 4 swarm hosts and +1 range
First making still more phoenixes (8 total), moving out to Sleep's bases First getting a 3d nexus and some void rays now
Sleep spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 6:00min First starts with a pylon, gateway, gas, pylon block Sleep into cyber core block, and cyber core Sleep opens 15 pool, 24 hatch (delayed)
First adds a nexus, gas, and walls the main with 2 gates Sleep gets zergling speed
6:00 - 9:00 Sleep gets evo chamber*2 First starts a very late warp gate research after having forgotten it
First adds 4 more gates (8 total) preparing for a push Sleep takes a 3rd, researches +1/+1 melee, and adds zerglings and spores
Sleep getting Lair, and First moves out with sentries/zealots
9:00 - 12:00 Sleep sends zerglings at First, but they are blocked by the wall First moves in, forces the drones to be taken out of the 3rd
the queens/lings try to defend on top of the natural ramp Roaches added for Sleep, he focuses the sentries which all die.
First adding more sentries/stalkers, pushed back from the natural but killing the 3rd now Sleep is technig to swarm hosts, and First is getting 2 stargates
12:00 - 15:00 phoenixes from the stargates for First, and +1 attack Sleep taking his 3rd back, and getting his first 4 swarm hosts and +1 range
First making still more phoenixes (8 total), moving out to Sleep's bases First getting a 3d nexus and some void rays now
15:00 - 18:00 First starts taking out queens and overlords, and taking information on the swarm hosts Sleep adds a spire, +2 attack melee and range
First keeps his harass while not doing too much damage Sleep adds more swarm hosts and creep spread, and takes his 4th base.
First kills more overlords/drones with the phoenixes (6 remaining) First piling more void rays at his base
Sleep spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 6:00min First starts with a pylon, gateway, gas, pylon block Sleep into cyber core block, and cyber core Sleep opens 15 pool, 24 hatch (delayed)
First adds a nexus, gas, and walls the main with 2 gates Sleep gets zergling speed
6:00 - 9:00 Sleep gets evo chamber*2 First starts a very late warp gate research after having forgotten it
First adds 4 more gates (8 total) preparing for a push Sleep takes a 3rd, researches +1/+1 melee, and adds zerglings and spores
Sleep getting Lair, and First moves out with sentries/zealots
9:00 - 12:00 Sleep sends zerglings at First, but they are blocked by the wall First moves in, forces the drones to be taken out of the 3rd
the queens/lings try to defend on top of the natural ramp Roaches added for Sleep, he focuses the sentries which all die.
First adding more sentries/stalkers, pushed back from the natural but killing the 3rd now Sleep is technig to swarm hosts, and First is getting 2 stargates
12:00 - 15:00 phoenixes from the stargates for First, and +1 attack Sleep taking his 3rd back, and getting his first 4 swarm hosts and +1 range
First making still more phoenixes (8 total), moving out to Sleep's bases First getting a 3d nexus and some void rays now
15:00 - 18:00 First starts taking out queens and overlords, and taking information on the swarm hosts Sleep adds a spire, +2 attack melee and range
First keeps his harass while not doing too much damage Sleep adds more swarm hosts and creep spread, and takes his 4th base.
First kills more overlords/drones with the phoenixes (6 remaining) First piling more void rays at his base
18:00 - 21:00 First adds a colossus and Thermal lance, while the swarm hosts siege his wall Sleep has to fall back when First pokes at his 3rd, but he gets there in time, and First has to fall back
Sleep adds corruptors, and +1 attack air First harasses with zealots and phoenixes at the same time in 2 different bases
Sleep gets back to his siege position, breaking the wall of the 3rd. First attacks Sleep's 3rd with his deathball
I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Actually even if both players are doing a lot of stupid mistakes, it's a cool games being played right now. Lot of actions everywhere, good micro, its pretty fun.
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
The more they play with them and lose, the faster blizzard makes it into a worthwhile unit.
Sleep spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 6:00min First starts with a pylon, gateway, gas, pylon block Sleep into cyber core block, and cyber core Sleep opens 15 pool, 24 hatch (delayed)
First adds a nexus, gas, and walls the main with 2 gates Sleep gets zergling speed
6:00 - 9:00 Sleep gets evo chamber*2 First starts a very late warp gate research after having forgotten it
First adds 4 more gates (8 total) preparing for a push Sleep takes a 3rd, researches +1/+1 melee, and adds zerglings and spores
Sleep getting Lair, and First moves out with sentries/zealots
9:00 - 12:00 Sleep sends zerglings at First, but they are blocked by the wall First moves in, forces the drones to be taken out of the 3rd
the queens/lings try to defend on top of the natural ramp Roaches added for Sleep, he focuses the sentries which all die.
First adding more sentries/stalkers, pushed back from the natural but killing the 3rd now Sleep is technig to swarm hosts, and First is getting 2 stargates
12:00 - 15:00 phoenixes from the stargates for First, and +1 attack Sleep taking his 3rd back, and getting his first 4 swarm hosts and +1 range
First making still more phoenixes (8 total), moving out to Sleep's bases First getting a 3d nexus and some void rays now
15:00 - 18:00 First starts taking out queens and overlords, and taking information on the swarm hosts Sleep adds a spire, +2 attack melee and range
First keeps his harass while not doing too much damage Sleep adds more swarm hosts and creep spread, and takes his 4th base.
First kills more overlords/drones with the phoenixes (6 remaining) First piling more void rays at his base
18:00 - 21:00 First adds a colossus and Thermal lance, while the swarm hosts siege his wall Sleep has to fall back when First pokes at his 3rd, but he gets there in time, and First has to fall back
Sleep adds corruptors, and +1 attack air First harasses with zealots and phoenixes at the same time in 2 different bases
Sleep gets back to his siege position, breaking the wall of the 3rd. First attacks Sleep's 3rd with his deathball
21:00 - 25:00 The fight starts, with corruptors getting transfused + locusts against collossi and void rays. First has to go back as he loses his void rays, but the supplies are still equal and Sleep has lost his 3rd, so he only has 1 mining base
First is cornered at his 4th, but he has cannons which force Sleep to give up, also to defend the zealots harass of First who denies once again Sleep's 3rd. First takes a 5the base in the bottom left corner.
Sleep burrows near First's 4th and moves ther with queens/corruptors. The fight starts, First storms the ball of corruptors of Sleep, and they get all killed, while the swarm hosts survive because First has no detection.
However, Sleep has no army anymore and has to GG
After a pretty scrappy game, First wins and the score is now 3 - 2 for LG-IM
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
Not often, because BW hardly was air vs. air. And with low number of air units, Scourge wins over them, but they were actually quite tanky, cool units with great special ability. I like them a lot more than Corruptors, and I think a lot of players will agree.
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
man I want scourge. They would increase the spectator value of SC2 so much. Kinda like watching a widow mine and wondering how much damage it will do
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
Not often, because BW hardly was air vs. air. And with low number of air units, Scourge wins over them, but they were actually quite tanky, cool units with great special ability. I like them a lot more than Corruptors, and I think a lot of players will agree.
Absolutely. Devourers were so cool with the purple clouds of pain.
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
Fuck balance. crank everything up and remove the animosities. #Yolo
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
Cool powerful units that mess with balance/metagame are fun.
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
Fuck balance. crank everything up and remove the animosities. #Yolo
Alright, everything gets blink.
You thought ling/bling micro was hard before? Try ling/blinK!
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
Fuck balance. crank everything up and remove the animosities. #Yolo
Alright, everything gets blink.
LOOOL. Ultras with blink for instant gratification. Scourge with blink to get close. BANES WITH BLINK.
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
Fuck balance. crank everything up and remove the animosities. #Yolo
Alright, everything gets blink.
You thought ling/bling micro was hard before? Try ling/blinK!
I demand ultralisks with cliff-jump. Add a jetpack animation too
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
I don't think it would be as hard as you think.
Yes, they could 3 shot a colossus but they only have 25 HP and stalkers would decimate them before they got too close
it would also be heart breaking to see them in TvZ, right before they hit a medivac it zooms away xD
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
Fuck balance. crank everything up and remove the animosities. #Yolo
Alright, everything gets blink.
LOOOL. Ultras with blink for instant gratification. Scourge with blink to get close. BANES WITH BLINK.
Banelings with Blink like the Nydus from WCS AM a few days ago ^^
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Scourge would be hell to balance in SC2.
Fuck balance. crank everything up and remove the animosities. #Yolo
Alright, everything gets blink.
You thought ling/bling micro was hard before? Try ling/blinK!
On May 10 2013 20:33 Fjodorov wrote: I hate playing with corruptors, I hate seeing corruptors and I hate hearing about them. Unfortunately ive seen more corruptors in the last couple of weeks than I thought possible. This must come to an end!
Bring back the Devourers! The coolest unit ever!
how often were they built in BW?
To be fair. Zerg needs GOOD Anti Air and Corruptors are the worst unit blizzard has blessed us with. WHY not add scourge. It would make ZvZ fun and ZvP fun.
Zerg already have a good anti-air unit, its vipers + hydras.
Symbol spawns in the bottom left First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with pylon at his natural, forge, early scout and pylon to delay Symbol's hatch, and nexus Symbol opens 15 pool, 16 hatch
Symbol takes his 3rd First adds 2 gas and a gateway
4:00 - 11:00 Cybernetics core and a zealot for First, and +1 attack Symbol drones and takes 2 gas
First gets a stargate, and chrono boosts a stalker, and researches warp gate Symbol makes about 10 zerglings, and researches Lair, while scouting with multiple overlords
First gets phoenixes from his stargate. Symbol researches ling speed, gets 2 more gas, a roach warren, and drops some spores.
Symbol researches +1 range, roach speed and adds a hydra den. Robotics facility, robo bay and 3 more gates for First and +1 attack.
Hydra range and some hydras on the way for Symbol while the phoenixes kill drones at the gas and kill an overseer. First taking his 3rd, and putting cannons there. He puts down a robo bay and get colossus + thermal lance
Symbol spawns in the bottom left First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with pylon at his natural, forge, early scout and pylon to delay Symbol's hatch, and nexus Symbol opens 15 pool, 16 hatch
Symbol takes his 3rd First adds 2 gas and a gateway
4:00 - 11:00 Cybernetics core and a zealot for First, and +1 attack Symbol drones and takes 2 gas
First gets a stargate, and chrono boosts a stalker, and researches warp gate Symbol makes about 10 zerglings, and researches Lair, while scouting with multiple overlords
First gets phoenixes from his stargate. Symbol researches ling speed, gets 2 more gas, a roach warren, and drops some spores.
Symbol researches +1 range, roach speed and adds a hydra den. Robotics facility, robo bay and 3 more gates for First and +1 attack.
Hydra range and some hydras on the way for Symbol while the phoenixes kill drones at the gas and kill an overseer. First taking his 3rd, and putting cannons there. He puts down a robo bay and get colossus + thermal lance
11:00 - 14:00 Spire on the way for Symbol who has produced a large number of roaches. First kills many workers (11 so far) with his phoenixes.
First moves on to void rays and adds a second stargate. Symbol gets 9 corrupters, +1 attack air, +2 range attack.
First keeping his army at home while increasing his deathball of void rays/collossi (2/2 now) Symbol spreading and preparing to attack First's army
Symbol spawns in the bottom left First spawns in the top left
0:00 - 4:00min First starts with pylon at his natural, forge, early scout and pylon to delay Symbol's hatch, and nexus Symbol opens 15 pool, 16 hatch
Symbol takes his 3rd First adds 2 gas and a gateway
4:00 - 11:00 Cybernetics core and a zealot for First, and +1 attack Symbol drones and takes 2 gas
First gets a stargate, and chrono boosts a stalker, and researches warp gate Symbol makes about 10 zerglings, and researches Lair, while scouting with multiple overlords
First gets phoenixes from his stargate. Symbol researches ling speed, gets 2 more gas, a roach warren, and drops some spores.
Symbol researches +1 range, roach speed and adds a hydra den. Robotics facility, robo bay and 3 more gates for First and +1 attack.
Hydra range and some hydras on the way for Symbol while the phoenixes kill drones at the gas and kill an overseer. First taking his 3rd, and putting cannons there. He puts down a robo bay and get colossus + thermal lance
11:00 - 14:00 Spire on the way for Symbol who has produced a large number of roaches. First kills many workers (11 so far) with his phoenixes.
First moves on to void rays and adds a second stargate. Symbol gets 9 corrupters, +1 attack air, +2 range attack.
First keeping his army at home while increasing his deathball of void rays/collossi (2/2 now) Symbol spreading and preparing to attack First's army
14:00 - Symbol sends a small force to destroy the forge and attack the natural First engages the roaches/hydras/corruptors. First's ground army gets destroyed, but the void rays are still up.
Symbol reproduces very fast, and moves right back to First's natural, and destroys it. The hydras kill the void rays, First has no more army and GGs
Symbol takes us to an ace match, the score is now 3 - 3
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
On May 10 2013 21:14 rothsbury wrote: I like tea, milk no sugar.
Never understood milk in your tea. Or sugar. It ruins the taste.
I'm talking English breakfast; there are lots of teas that aren't meant to have milk. English breakfast tea is too bitter without milk.
Never liked English breakfast. There used to be a Chinese store in town that had delicious tea, but they closed down. Now I'm stuck with regular boring tea.
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
15:00 - 18:00 Symbol getting the greater spire, he has about 12 corruptors which take out the mothership corei n the open Symbol researching the +3/+3 melee, and ultra defense upgrade, and adding many spines
Squirtle getting more immortals (9 total), and +2 attack Symbol getting agressive close to Squirtle's 3rd, but getting away from a fight at the choke.
Symbol making 4 broodlords, getting +2 air attack and a nydus. Squirtle adding a few archons to his deathball with lots of charge zealots
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
15:00 - 18:00 Symbol getting the greater spire, he has about 12 corruptors which take out the mothership corei n the open Symbol researching the +3/+3 melee, and ultra defense upgrade, and adding many spines
Squirtle getting more immortals (9 total), and +2 attack Symbol getting agressive close to Squirtle's 3rd, but getting away from a fight at the choke.
Symbol making 4 broodlords, getting +2 air attack and a nydus. Squirtle adding a few archons to his deathball with lots of charge zealots
18:00 - 21:00 The two armies finally fight, the ultras die very fast to the immortals, Symbol loses everything except the corruptors, while Squirtle has retained most of his ground army and moves on Symbol's 5th Symbol uses his massive bank to get back 7 broodlords an 80 zerglings.
Squirtle adds a 4th base which gets denied by SYmbols lings. Squirtle starts to transition to tempests while Symbol adds 10 infestors.
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
15:00 - 18:00 Symbol getting the greater spire, he has about 12 corruptors which take out the mothership corei n the open Symbol researching the +3/+3 melee, and ultra defense upgrade, and adding many spines
Squirtle getting more immortals (9 total), and +2 attack Symbol getting agressive close to Squirtle's 3rd, but getting away from a fight at the choke.
Symbol making 4 broodlords, getting +2 air attack and a nydus. Squirtle adding a few archons to his deathball with lots of charge zealots
18:00 - 21:00 The two armies finally fight, the ultras die very fast to the immortals, Symbol loses everything except the corruptors, while Squirtle has retained most of his ground army and moves on Symbol's 5th Symbol uses his massive bank to get back 7 broodlords an 80 zerglings.
Squirtle adds a 4th base which gets denied by SYmbols lings. Squirtle starts to transition to tempests while Symbol adds 10 infestors.
21:00 - 27:00 Squirtle gets his +3 attack, adds archons and tempests and denies Symbols runbys while getting colossi Symbol gets some ultralisks back to complement his infestor/broodlord/queens force
Squirtle tries to kill Symbol's 4th, but Symbol can transfuse it and keep it alive while cleaning the strike force Symbol takes position and starts to advance towards Squirtle
Symbol fungals Squirtle on the top of his ramp, and engages the fight with infested terrans. Squirtle gets the upper hand, and prevents Symbol from retreating through a nydus by killing it.
At the same time, Squirtle keeps on warping zealots in Symbol's bases with a warp prism, hurting his economy.
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
15:00 - 18:00 Symbol getting the greater spire, he has about 12 corruptors which take out the mothership corei n the open Symbol researching the +3/+3 melee, and ultra defense upgrade, and adding many spines
Squirtle getting more immortals (9 total), and +2 attack Symbol getting agressive close to Squirtle's 3rd, but getting away from a fight at the choke.
Symbol making 4 broodlords, getting +2 air attack and a nydus. Squirtle adding a few archons to his deathball with lots of charge zealots
18:00 - 21:00 The two armies finally fight, the ultras die very fast to the immortals, Symbol loses everything except the corruptors, while Squirtle has retained most of his ground army and moves on Symbol's 5th Symbol uses his massive bank to get back 7 broodlords an 80 zerglings.
Squirtle adds a 4th base which gets denied by SYmbols lings. Squirtle starts to transition to tempests while Symbol adds 10 infestors.
21:00 - 27:00 Squirtle gets his +3 attack, adds archons and tempests and denies Symbols runbys while getting colossi Symbol gets some ultralisks back to complement his infestor/broodlord/queens force
Squirtle tries to kill Symbol's 4th, but Symbol can transfuse it and keep it alive while cleaning the strike force Symbol takes position and starts to advance towards Squirtle
Symbol fungals Squirtle on the top of his ramp, and engages the fight with infested terrans. Squirtle gets the upper hand, and prevents Symbol from retreating through a nydus by killing it.
At the same time, Squirtle keeps on warping zealots in Symbol's bases with a warp prism, hurting his economy.
27:00 - 29:00 Both armies clash again close to Symbol's base, Squirtle's many archons destroy the army of Symbol in an instant. Symbol GGs
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
15:00 - 18:00 Symbol getting the greater spire, he has about 12 corruptors which take out the mothership corei n the open Symbol researching the +3/+3 melee, and ultra defense upgrade, and adding many spines
Squirtle getting more immortals (9 total), and +2 attack Symbol getting agressive close to Squirtle's 3rd, but getting away from a fight at the choke.
Symbol making 4 broodlords, getting +2 air attack and a nydus. Squirtle adding a few archons to his deathball with lots of charge zealots
18:00 - 21:00 The two armies finally fight, the ultras die very fast to the immortals, Symbol loses everything except the corruptors, while Squirtle has retained most of his ground army and moves on Symbol's 5th Symbol uses his massive bank to get back 7 broodlords an 80 zerglings.
Squirtle adds a 4th base which gets denied by SYmbols lings. Squirtle starts to transition to tempests while Symbol adds 10 infestors.
21:00 - 27:00 Squirtle gets his +3 attack, adds archons and tempests and denies Symbols runbys while getting colossi Symbol gets some ultralisks back to complement his infestor/broodlord/queens force
Squirtle tries to kill Symbol's 4th, but Symbol can transfuse it and keep it alive while cleaning the strike force Symbol takes position and starts to advance towards Squirtle
Symbol fungals Squirtle on the top of his ramp, and engages the fight with infested terrans. Squirtle gets the upper hand, and prevents Symbol from retreating through a nydus by killing it.
At the same time, Squirtle keeps on warping zealots in Symbol's bases with a warp prism, hurting his economy.
27:00 - 29:00 Both armies clash again close to Symbol's base, Squirtle's many archons destroy the army of Symbol in an instant. Symbol GGs
On May 10 2013 21:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: That was one of the best ZvP games of HotS. I like the direction of that matchup.
Symbol has a freakishly strong lategame too
Symbol was playing WoL all the way, no vipers, no swarm hosts, mass infestors (that got nerfed). The 3 tempests was all squirtle needed to roll his composition :D
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
15:00 - 18:00 Symbol getting the greater spire, he has about 12 corruptors which take out the mothership corei n the open Symbol researching the +3/+3 melee, and ultra defense upgrade, and adding many spines
Squirtle getting more immortals (9 total), and +2 attack Symbol getting agressive close to Squirtle's 3rd, but getting away from a fight at the choke.
Symbol making 4 broodlords, getting +2 air attack and a nydus. Squirtle adding a few archons to his deathball with lots of charge zealots
18:00 - 21:00 The two armies finally fight, the ultras die very fast to the immortals, Symbol loses everything except the corruptors, while Squirtle has retained most of his ground army and moves on Symbol's 5th Symbol uses his massive bank to get back 7 broodlords an 80 zerglings.
Squirtle adds a 4th base which gets denied by SYmbols lings. Squirtle starts to transition to tempests while Symbol adds 10 infestors.
21:00 - 27:00 Squirtle gets his +3 attack, adds archons and tempests and denies Symbols runbys while getting colossi Symbol gets some ultralisks back to complement his infestor/broodlord/queens force
Squirtle tries to kill Symbol's 4th, but Symbol can transfuse it and keep it alive while cleaning the strike force Symbol takes position and starts to advance towards Squirtle
Symbol fungals Squirtle on the top of his ramp, and engages the fight with infested terrans. Squirtle gets the upper hand, and prevents Symbol from retreating through a nydus by killing it.
At the same time, Squirtle keeps on warping zealots in Symbol's bases with a warp prism, hurting his economy.
27:00 - 29:00 Both armies clash again close to Symbol's base, Squirtle's many archons destroy the army of Symbol in an instant. Symbol GGs
Symbol spawns in the bottom left Squirtle spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min Squirtle starts with pylon at his natural, forge, pylon block at Symbol's natural,and his own nexus Symbol opens 14 pool, hatch at his 3rd base, and his natural afterwards
4:00 - 8:00 Squirtle adds a gateway, cannon and cybernetics core to complete his wall Squirtle gets a zealot, then warp gate and chronos a stalker
Symbol takes his 2 gas, and drones more, while adding a few lings Squirtle takes more gas, puts down a stargate and gets phoenixes while marching to Symbol's 3rd with 2 stalkers and a zealot
Symbol saves his queen, loses nothing while Squirtle's stalkers get away
8:00 - 12:00 2*evo chamber for Symbol 3 more gates and a robo for First who researches +1 attack and gets a mothership core
Squirtle phoenixes arrive at Symbol before the spores are done, and do some damage. Symbol technig to lair, gets roach warren, +1/+1 melee
Squirtle getting immortals from his robo, and adding a 3rd nexus, a robo bay, and going for +1 defense. Symbol gets a spire, an infestation pit, roach speed, and produces many lings.
Symbol getting +2/+2 melee, and technig to hive, and roach speed Squirtle starts getting void rays, and adds 2 more stargates
12:00 - 15:00 Squirtle add colossi with thermal lance. He catches zerglings with forcefields and kills about 10 of them Symbol has been adding queen little by little and has 12 now.
Ultralisk den for Symbol, and 54 zerglings in production, while researching adrenal glands and +1 air attack Squirtle adds void rays (4 total), immortals and upgrade air attack and shields
Squirtle denies Symbol's 4th with his army while Symbol has 6 ultralisks on the way
15:00 - 18:00 Symbol getting the greater spire, he has about 12 corruptors which take out the mothership corei n the open Symbol researching the +3/+3 melee, and ultra defense upgrade, and adding many spines
Squirtle getting more immortals (9 total), and +2 attack Symbol getting agressive close to Squirtle's 3rd, but getting away from a fight at the choke.
Symbol making 4 broodlords, getting +2 air attack and a nydus. Squirtle adding a few archons to his deathball with lots of charge zealots
18:00 - 21:00 The two armies finally fight, the ultras die very fast to the immortals, Symbol loses everything except the corruptors, while Squirtle has retained most of his ground army and moves on Symbol's 5th Symbol uses his massive bank to get back 7 broodlords an 80 zerglings.
Squirtle adds a 4th base which gets denied by SYmbols lings. Squirtle starts to transition to tempests while Symbol adds 10 infestors.
21:00 - 27:00 Squirtle gets his +3 attack, adds archons and tempests and denies Symbols runbys while getting colossi Symbol gets some ultralisks back to complement his infestor/broodlord/queens force
Squirtle tries to kill Symbol's 4th, but Symbol can transfuse it and keep it alive while cleaning the strike force Symbol takes position and starts to advance towards Squirtle
Symbol fungals Squirtle on the top of his ramp, and engages the fight with infested terrans. Squirtle gets the upper hand, and prevents Symbol from retreating through a nydus by killing it.
At the same time, Squirtle keeps on warping zealots in Symbol's bases with a warp prism, hurting his economy.
27:00 - 29:00 Both armies clash again close to Symbol's base, Squirtle's many archons destroy the army of Symbol in an instant. Symbol GGs
On May 10 2013 21:31 jackdaleaper wrote: Props to Squirtle, but I think Symbol forgot that he's playing HOTS not WOL.... why no vipers....
Most Zerg don't go for Vipers simply because of the spell Feedback, guess it was a shock to them when HTs were first used and killed Vipers before they even could grab a thing. It should come back though seeing the success Zergs that use Vipers have. Aside from that Symbol might hide his strategies.
On May 10 2013 21:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: That was one of the best ZvP games of HotS. I like the direction of that matchup.
Symbol has a freakishly strong lategame too
Symbol was playing WoL all the way, no vipers, no swarm hosts, mass infestors (that got nerfed). The 3 tempests was all squirtle needed to roll his composition :D
Oh yeah the composition was off with way too many infestors, but his macro is insane and I love the nydus worm pushes with his army. He just needs to learn from this and he's good.
On May 10 2013 21:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: That was one of the best ZvP games of HotS. I like the direction of that matchup.
Symbol has a freakishly strong lategame too
Symbol was playing WoL all the way, no vipers, no swarm hosts, mass infestors (that got nerfed). The 3 tempests was all squirtle needed to roll his composition :D
Oh yeah the composition was off with way too many infestors, but his macro is insane and I love the nydus worm pushes with his army. He just needs to learn from this and he's good.
I feel his push would have been really good if squirtle didn't had his tempests. But zerg lategame agaisnt protoss pretty much have to use SH, they are really powerfull. Symbol was more doing some kind of timign push that failed. And he probably took too many gas, he was sooo mineral starved that he made infestors..
On May 10 2013 21:31 jackdaleaper wrote: Props to Squirtle, but I think Symbol forgot that he's playing HOTS not WOL.... why no vipers....
Most Zerg don't go for Vipers simply because of the spell Feedback, guess it was a shock to them when HTs were first used and killed Vipers before they even could grab a thing. It should come back though seeing the success Zergs that use Vipers have. Aside from that Symbol might hide his strategies.
anyway Yay LG IM !
Yeah, hopefully zergs get better at managing vipers (esp. Symbol) since they make every non-mirror match up easier for zerg. You could be right about hiding strats too, I just feel bad for Symbol because he played really well only to lose because he forgot to make a unit. Overall a well played game from both players though. Hopefully we see more games like this.
On May 10 2013 21:31 jackdaleaper wrote: Props to Squirtle, but I think Symbol forgot that he's playing HOTS not WOL.... why no vipers....
Most Zerg don't go for Vipers simply because of the spell Feedback, guess it was a shock to them when HTs were first used and killed Vipers before they even could grab a thing. It should come back though seeing the success Zergs that use Vipers have. Aside from that Symbol might hide his strategies.
anyway Yay LG IM !
Feedback is a problem, tha'ts why Symbol could have focused mainly on swarmhosts instead of so many infestors. The locust zone out templars very well and as we saw, infested terrans without upgrades don't cut it against 3/3 late game splash by P.
On May 10 2013 21:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Hopefully they go back to bo9 completely next season. bo7 kind of ruins team league D;
At least with proleague you get 2 matches a day usually
I wish they would change the format to PL format just because it favors us more >_>
Haha, I agree so so much.
I think most people would love to see it for a season.
PL format is definitely better for the viewers the majority of the time, although AK is a nice change of pace once in awhile. At this point I'm just hoping big teams like LGIM and ST join PL already. (or heck LG and Redbull joins KeSPa LOLOL)
ByuL spawns in the top left BBoongBBoong spawns in the bottom right
0:00 - 4:00min ByuL starts off with a 15 hatchery into gas then pool BBoongBBoong goes pool on 14 into hatchery then gas
4:00 - 6:00 Both players get fast ling speed ByuL builds a Baneling Nest, followed by a Baneling Nest by B4 shortly after
Both players play rather passive
6:00 - 10:00 B4 goes for a Lair on 6 minutes, ByuL's Lair follows a few seconds after ByuL trying runby's with lings in B4's base, but B4 shuts it down
Both players go into spire at the 7.30 min mark B4 tries to take a third, but gets cancelled due to ling pressure from ByuL Meanwhile ByuL starts his own third
BBoongBBoong attempts to throw down his third again Both players making lots of lings, ByuL has to cancel his third because of lings of B4
Both players start making Mutas and the flying carapace upgrade A lot of lings from B4 get into ByuL's main and natural, wich kill about 15 drones Mutas clean the lings up, meanwhile B4's third has to get cancelled again
10:00 - 12:00 Both players keep making mutas while attempting runby's in their opponents base, but doing minor damage ByuL harassing B4's main while pressuring his third with lings, does minor damage Muta wars! B4 comes out ahead and kills a handfull of overlords
12:00 - 17:00 B4 also getting +1 attack for mutas, while also having the muta lead, but his third gets sniped by lings Dronecount in favor of B4 50 vs 42, but ByuL has a third
Both players still making mutas and lings/banes, B4's +1 air finishing Another muta war: ByuL barely wins with help of the queens, but B4 is now 20 supply ahead
More ling runby's by B4, but gets shut down Muta's dance around eachother trying to harass and attack, but nothing big gets picked off Drone count is now equal, both on 3 bases
17:00 - 23:00 B4 snipes a gas in the main of ByuL, while ByuL does a ling runby in B4's third B4 going for +2 flying carapace, ByuL for +1 flyers attack
B4 gets into the main off ByuL and snipes a gas and the spire 43 mutas for B4, 26 for ByuL
ByuL does a runby with lings at B4's third, snipes a couple of drones, and gets cleaned up by mutas Both players still getting mutalisks, B4 still ahead
Big muta fight! B4 ahead in upgrades and muta count, ByuL mutas get crushed GG!
After watching that last game I feel like HOTS ZvP is way better than WOL now- both sides get a lot more options now in what kind of compositions to go for.
I went AFK today to go shopping and it was a PvZ, came back and it was a different PvZ and was sure that a terran must have played in between, guess not :p
Being an LG-IM fan, I was willing to stay up as long as I had to to see them pick up a win. But as soon as they sent out first when they were down 2-1, I went straight to bed lol.
I'm glad to see that they didn't lose as I expected them.
On May 11 2013 03:19 tuho12345 wrote: what a shitty line up lol, full of Z and P. Consider how ppl thought Terran was OP at the beginning of HoTS.
I expected people flaming about Terrans before HOTS was even in beta, just because OP means to so many players there are new options they have to learn to counter. But since terran didn't get any lategame upgrade/Unit that is usable, nothing really changed to the last WOL year...
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Also, I don't see Mvp in the poll list for most valuable player. 
Is he not eligible to play?
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