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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 06 2013 02:03 GMT
#461
On May 06 2013 10:35 Vequeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 10:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
On May 06 2013 09:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 06 2013 05:56 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 06 2013 05:54 FrogOfWar wrote:
On May 06 2013 05:51 Cokefreak wrote:
Is TB observing?


Apparently, he said so on Twitter.

That explains a lot. Why not have a dedicated observer...?


How? Dedicated observing for online tournaments is impossible. You need someone physically there at the streaming location.

I understand people are not that happy with the observing, I get it, but it's impossible to resolve that problem. There's only so much you can do when you have to focus on casting, observing and doing production all at once.

You did great for how much you are doing! It is expected for somethings to be less than perfect when doing everything at once (well for those of us who think )

Also, i'll keep making these if you would like...and if you want anything added/taken out, let me know.


Small thing, pedroca 's stream in the OP should have a Brazil flag instead of France.

ah, k
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 06 2013 02:05 GMT
#462
Sad to have missed this today. Had to move to a new dorm for the summer Sounds like the view count was pretty solid though. Hopefully I'll be able to check out the other groups.
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Jnai
Profile Joined September 2010
United States442 Posts
May 06 2013 02:28 GMT
#463
The good: Some fun games, fast handling of technical difficulties, enjoyed the TB/Husky cast, and it was fun watching some players I hadn't seen much from. I liked the selection format for the tournament, which seemed pretty fair to everyone who might want to compete. And, I liked the use of Gameheart.

The mediocre: The observing was rough at times, especially compared to a very professional cast like the GSL. I understand there are technical limitations that prevent this from being improved upon, so I don't feel it's quite fair to harp on it.

The bad: I think the main problem was really with some of the players being somewhat new to the tournament scene. My biggest problem - and I understand, it is hard to fault them on it, but it was very frustrating - there was probably 1+ hrs of broadcast time taken by players pushing unwinnable scenarios rather than simply GGing. This is unfortunate because it causes casters to be put in the awkward position of either proclaiming games "over" (and then having to wait for 10 minutes for them to be really over) or acting as if everything is good and well with 75+ supply differences. Again, I don't really know what can be done about this, but it was a noticeable frustration as a viewer. I don't want to see a rash of too-fast GGs, but tapping out when defeated is a good thing for everyone.
Spectreman
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil52 Posts
May 06 2013 02:52 GMT
#464
On May 06 2013 11:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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On May 06 2013 11:01 Spectreman wrote:
The vods will be posted only after all the tournament ends?


Vods are already up in uncut form on the twitch channel.

Cut series vods will be up tomorrow we hope



Thks. I am pretty lame using Twitch and and I didn´t see the button video next to chat.

May i make a suggestion? Put the schedule days and times on the top of shoutcraft site.
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
May 06 2013 02:54 GMT
#465
On May 06 2013 09:23 Mackus wrote:
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On May 06 2013 09:19 hitpoint wrote:
On May 06 2013 09:17 Mackus wrote:
On May 06 2013 09:15 Scila wrote:
Lol Husky so critical "planitum level play" "you cant get supply blocked"


How's he meant to react?

Wipe his ass and say you played very well sir making mistakes people do at Gold level in a top 16 GM tournament?


Are we pretending that Code S Koreans don't get supply blocked once in a while? Hyperbole is fun but gold level mistakes.. come on.


I assure you Code S Koreans don't get supply blocked 8 minutes into a game when the game was absolutely stale.. If it were 38 minutes in I can understand because people get tunnel vision but absolutely no excuse for that.


I assure you they do, obviously less than the average foreigner, but shit happens, everyone makes mistakes, even "gasp" koreans

Totalbiscuit your obsing was fine, I watched the games inbetween my series. Quite good since you are casting/obsing at the same time. People will complain to complain.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
May 06 2013 03:30 GMT
#466
On May 06 2013 11:54 ROOTMinigun wrote:

Totalbiscuit your obsing was fine, I watched the games inbetween my series. Quite good since you are casting/obsing at the same time. People will complain to complain.


Meh I can do a lot better than that. I think if I practice more this week on some complex replays and don't have the stress of dealing with multiple technical issues in Group B then it should improve.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 06 2013 03:54 GMT
#467
Where did the viewer numbers peak? I slept through it all despite being in NA...
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 04:09:16
May 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#468
On May 06 2013 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
Where did the viewer numbers peak? I slept through it all despite being in NA...


We believe it was around 40k if you add the English and foreign language streams together.

We're happy with that number but we'd like to see it go to 50k. I think as we get into the RO8 onwards, it will, plus the tech problems in the first hour caused many people to give up.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 06 2013 05:01 GMT
#469
I appreciate your and Genna's work, thanks
Refer to my post.
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
May 06 2013 08:40 GMT
#470
really glad to see minigun advance despite his near-miss vs apocalypse in WCS.

chad motherfucking JOOOOOOOOOONES
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Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
May 06 2013 09:04 GMT
#471
On May 06 2013 17:40 LeeDawg wrote:
really glad to see minigun advance despite his near-miss vs apocalypse in WCS.

chad motherfucking JOOOOOOOOOONES


You realise I hope that a collision is a near miss

This was a nice start to the tournament I think, unfortunate with the technical problems in the beginning but it got solved and the rest of the tournament ran fine (for me at least).
Only thing that's a bit sad is the broadcast times, staying up until 2-3AM (CEST) on a Sunday-to-Monday night isn't really feasible if you have school/work. Don't know if there's anything that can be done about it though without screwing over the west coast americans.

Overall I would say it was a successfull start to the tournament with some hiccups
You need to construct additional pylons.
Arpayon
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy35 Posts
May 06 2013 10:09 GMT
#472
Gj TB, I love your SHOUTcraft so much!
Nothus
Profile Joined April 2013
United States12 Posts
May 07 2013 00:39 GMT
#473
I got to watch the whole stream sunday, can't believe my 3g internets in the boonies worked that well. 320p baby.

Was great to watch and I was surprised when I looked at the clock and it was after 4pm est at one point.

I will be watching the others, the technical issues will get ironed out as they go along and I think after this complete tourney TB will have a great platform to do it again. Make Husky give you the $50 in something other than taco bell.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 07 2013 09:25 GMT
#474
On May 06 2013 11:54 ROOTMinigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 09:23 Mackus wrote:
On May 06 2013 09:19 hitpoint wrote:
On May 06 2013 09:17 Mackus wrote:
On May 06 2013 09:15 Scila wrote:
Lol Husky so critical "planitum level play" "you cant get supply blocked"


How's he meant to react?

Wipe his ass and say you played very well sir making mistakes people do at Gold level in a top 16 GM tournament?


Are we pretending that Code S Koreans don't get supply blocked once in a while? Hyperbole is fun but gold level mistakes.. come on.


I assure you Code S Koreans don't get supply blocked 8 minutes into a game when the game was absolutely stale.. If it were 38 minutes in I can understand because people get tunnel vision but absolutely no excuse for that.


I assure you they do, obviously less than the average foreigner, but shit happens, everyone makes mistakes, even "gasp" koreans

Totalbiscuit your obsing was fine, I watched the games inbetween my series. Quite good since you are casting/obsing at the same time. People will complain to complain.


I would agree that even Code-S level players do make mistakes, but thats because you cannot say that even the best player in the world would not make a mistake ever. Usually a Code-S player would not get a supplyblock early on, when not being pressured, thats what he was talking about.

Other than that, I think pointing out how big of a mistake it is, regardless of level, is justified. If MVP gets supply blocked @ WCS 6 minutes into the game, hell I will point that out as a caster, because its rare and its a mistake. Its not bashing
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
May 07 2013 10:50 GMT
#475
Getting supply blocked is pretty ridiculous. I would chalk that up to nerves, but I watch his stream a lot and he routinely gets supply blocked; I figured it was due to talking while playing. No idea what to think now. It's a lot easier to get supply blocked in this game than in BW (unless you play Terran). In BW, at least, it really was inexcusable and I doubt any good pros were getting supply blocked. I was watching Grubby the other day and he was at something like 90psi out of 180. He had never even gone above 90 supply. If you're getting supply blocked, at least it shows you weren't taking the bronze league approach to macro'ing. Given the alternative that I've seen... I think it's a step up to see foreign pros getting supply blocked.

People should be harping on players for having a way higher cap than current supply. I mean, that's just intentionally being bad.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 07 2013 12:08 GMT
#476
On May 07 2013 19:50 playa wrote:
Getting supply blocked is pretty ridiculous. I would chalk that up to nerves, but I watch his stream a lot and he routinely gets supply blocked; I figured it was due to talking while playing. No idea what to think now. It's a lot easier to get supply blocked in this game than in BW (unless you play Terran). In BW, at least, it really was inexcusable and I doubt any good pros were getting supply blocked. I was watching Grubby the other day and he was at something like 90psi out of 180. He had never even gone above 90 supply. If you're getting supply blocked, at least it shows you weren't taking the bronze league approach to macro'ing. Given the alternative that I've seen... I think it's a step up to see foreign pros getting supply blocked.

People should be harping on players for having a way higher cap than current supply. I mean, that's just intentionally being bad.


Too much supply free (when never in that area / not needed) is as bad as getting supply blocked. But one has to realize that its never a good thing to be supply blocked. Even if you take the approach that he is at least making a lot of stuff, he prevents himself from making more stuff.

Same with building too much overlords/pylons/depots. You prevent yourself from spending the minerals on something actually useful. When being Protoss, I can understand that you build warpin pylons over the map that doesn't or shouldn't neccessary be supply pylons, but thats about it.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
May 11 2013 18:15 GMT
#477
Could anyone please make a topic for Group B that is running now? I would, but i wouldn't be able to update it :-/
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 18:18:44
May 11 2013 18:18 GMT
#478
*edit* shit, wrong topic, my bad
pwnz0r
Profile Joined August 2010
United States123 Posts
May 11 2013 18:18 GMT
#479
Shots fired!
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
May 11 2013 18:18 GMT
#480
Is there no Group B LR thread?
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