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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 04 2013 23:34 GMT
#1061
Demuslim should obviously be allowed to forfeit if he has to, and if MLG are scared of the shitstorm if that would happen then obviously something has gone wrong. While it might be seen as foul play against Miya, it's not Demuslim's fault but MLG's.

It's a bad situation for all parts, and it's all caused by MLG admins. No need to shit on any of the players imo.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 23:36:19
May 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#1062
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".
MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
May 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#1063
On May 05 2013 08:34 Yunarc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:32 MarcH wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:29 Yunarc wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:27 MarcH wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:24 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:23 tenacity wrote:
god, i hate demuslim.

How can you someone so handsome?


I don't think people understand the situation that transpired between Miya/DeMu/Moose.


Why don't you enlighten us all then as from what I can see the situation was rather shitty for everyone involved and the outcome and handling while not ideal are probably the best outcome all things considered

It was shitty, but threatening to screw up the brackets by forfeit was not a cool move. Should have just talked everything out between people instead.


Both Demu and Moose threatened to forfeit so why hate on one and not the other

I did not mention any player name because both did


Wasn't in direct response to you but the poster who started this thread and others who are also focusing solely on DeMu
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 04 2013 23:36 GMT
#1064
On May 05 2013 08:32 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:27 Dodgin wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:24 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:23 tenacity wrote:
god, i hate demuslim.

How can you hate someone so handsome?


I ask myself that all the time when I see the Bisu anti fans posting.


I ask myself that every time I look in the mirror.

Typical swedish guy mentality?


Obviously

And I was just kidding btw, no worries

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not handsome
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33713 Posts
May 04 2013 23:36 GMT
#1065
On May 05 2013 08:29 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:22 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:20 grs wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:19 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
uk Demuslim 2-1 us Moosegills
uk Demuslim qualifies for Challenger Division!

Yay Demu!

Complaining into challenger division. Good luck in there.


The fuck are you smoking? o0;;

This.
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[image loading]

For click through the pics at http://imgur.com/WXh43cu,tvXEex8,pdk4PIA,dQS6ucu,IKkunfS,Xt95cz3#1


man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
May 04 2013 23:36 GMT
#1066
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.


I tend to second this opinion.
Unless Miya got an email with the correct play times, then should have proceeded with walkover.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 23:37:41
May 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#1067
On May 05 2013 08:36 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:29 grs wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:22 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:20 grs wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:19 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
uk Demuslim 2-1 us Moosegills
uk Demuslim qualifies for Challenger Division!

Yay Demu!

Complaining into challenger division. Good luck in there.


The fuck are you smoking? o0;;

This.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

For click through the pics at http://imgur.com/WXh43cu,tvXEex8,pdk4PIA,dQS6ucu,IKkunfS,Xt95cz3#1


man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament

I think Demuslim is past that point with MLG in any case, whether it's justified or not.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
May 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#1068
On May 05 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1dp4qr/jimcredible_makes_wcs_america_challenger_division/c9sh5zn
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#1069
On May 05 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".


Shoulda just DQ'd everyone in that bracket and give the seed to comm.
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3401 Posts
May 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#1070
On May 05 2013 08:35 MarcH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:34 Yunarc wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:32 MarcH wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:29 Yunarc wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:27 MarcH wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:24 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:23 tenacity wrote:
god, i hate demuslim.

How can you someone so handsome?


I don't think people understand the situation that transpired between Miya/DeMu/Moose.


Why don't you enlighten us all then as from what I can see the situation was rather shitty for everyone involved and the outcome and handling while not ideal are probably the best outcome all things considered

It was shitty, but threatening to screw up the brackets by forfeit was not a cool move. Should have just talked everything out between people instead.


Both Demu and Moose threatened to forfeit so why hate on one and not the other

I did not mention any player name because both did


Wasn't in direct response to you but the poster who started this thread and others who are also focusing solely on DeMu

Because he commands far bigger fan-base and is thus responsible for far more pressure.
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
May 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#1071
Why are the moderators censoring random things? I was asking if Tilea was a man or a woman, having never heard that name before.. and I get abuse from some random moderator.

Are there rules against asking questions in the chat, that I don't know about?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33713 Posts
May 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#1072
On May 05 2013 08:37 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".


Shoulda just DQ'd everyone in that bracket and give the seed to comm.


I can get on board with that
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
May 04 2013 23:38 GMT
#1073
On May 05 2013 08:37 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".


Shoulda just DQ'd everyone in that bracket and give the seed to comm.

Should of just DQ'd MLG and let NASL run the show.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 23:40:06
May 04 2013 23:38 GMT
#1074
On May 05 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".


It was poorly run by MLG. I'm just saying if I was a competitor I would sleep better at night knowing I earned my spot the right way and not through a technicality. It's not about what's right or wrong in this case rule wise, but sportsmanship and integrity of earning things the right way. This was a case of both players trying to dodge miya on a technicality so they would have a better chance of getting into code a.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#1075
On May 05 2013 08:37 skyflyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1dp4qr/jimcredible_makes_wcs_america_challenger_division/c9sh5zn

ok ok, anyway, same goes for Miya, it would not be consistent with anything MLG has ever done in SC2 and I do think it would not have been fair to Demu/Moosegills
dddoushio
Profile Joined November 2012
81 Posts
May 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#1076
On May 05 2013 08:32 tenacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.


exactly my thoughts. i also support rich's tweet about the situation.


Are you serious? Shafting two people that had nothing to do with it to fix a situation you CAUSED by having incompetent admins is acceptable?

There is no right decision here, just less shitty ones. They should focus on hurting the least amount of people.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 04 2013 23:40 GMT
#1077
Tilea playing pretty well.

Drunkenboi's late game still looks rather shoddy, but he shows some promise.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
May 04 2013 23:41 GMT
#1078
that just happened
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 23:42:44
May 04 2013 23:41 GMT
#1079
Wow good engagement, Marauders are pretty good yo.

Here comes the SCV train
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
May 04 2013 23:42 GMT
#1080
On May 05 2013 08:38 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:
On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality.

Sasquatch also got a def loss because they told him the wrong time. Should they have restarted that bracket, too?

Would be not consistent at all with the previous qualifiers, mind you, where Hyun knocked out several people after being disqualified and they essentially told those players "deal with it".


It was poorly run by MLG. I'm just saying if I was a competitor I would sleep better at night knowing I earned my spot the right way and not through a technicality. It's not about what's right or wrong in this case rule wise, but sportsmanship and integrity of earning things the right way. This was a case of both players trying to dodge miya on a technicality so they would have a better chance of getting into code a.

Perhaps, on the other hand Demuslim not getting a seed was ridiculous, he's probably just frustrated. Waiting around for admin fuckups to be sorted must be incredibly annoying, as you have to be 'on-call' so to speak.

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