• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:42
CET 11:42
KST 19:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT20Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
Terran Scanner Sweep ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2600 users

[DreamHack] Stockholm D2 2013 - Page 7

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 558 Next
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 27 2013 02:27 GMT
#121
So few terrans left
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3110 Posts
April 27 2013 02:32 GMT
#122
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Lol. GSL never had to flip a coin to decide who advances from their groups.

And that's just it. Bo3 is a time saving format, not one that finds the best player at the event. Bo5s should come sooner. If you've made it to the ro8 (i'd honestly say even the ro16) out of 96 players, you deserve a bo5.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 02:35:10
April 27 2013 02:33 GMT
#123
--- Nuked ---
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 02:36:33
April 27 2013 02:36 GMT
#124
My prediction <3
+ Show Spoiler +
Ro16
CoCa>Stephano
Leenock>Grubby
Puzzle>HerO
Hyun>Sase
Naniwa>TLO
Kas>Sortof
Gumiho>Huk
Jaedong>Verdi

RO8
CoCa>Leenock
Puzzle>Hyun
Kas>Naniwa
Jaedong>Gumiho

Ro4
Puzzle>CoCa
Jaedong>Kas

Final
Jaedong>Puzzle

Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 27 2013 02:42 GMT
#125
--- Nuked ---
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50630 Posts
April 27 2013 02:47 GMT
#126
I believe in Jae Jae.

and apparently I need to start rooting for puzzle.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
April 27 2013 02:53 GMT
#127
On April 27 2013 11:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Lol. GSL never had to flip a coin to decide who advances from their groups.

And that's just it. Bo3 is a time saving format, not one that finds the best player at the event. Bo5s should come sooner. If you've made it to the ro8 (i'd honestly say even the ro16) out of 96 players, you deserve a bo5.


GSL doesn't have to be played in 2 days.
BW forever || Thall
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
April 27 2013 03:00 GMT
#128
HuK vs GuMiho =[ DH was going so good for me (in terms of predictions) til this happened (and JaeDong in the next match over too).
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 27 2013 03:03 GMT
#129
Poll: Who do you think will win DreamHack?

Leenock (206)
 
34%

NaNiwa (115)
 
19%

GuMiho (51)
 
8%

Stephano (50)
 
8%

Jaedong (38)
 
6%

HerO (33)
 
5%

TLO (28)
 
5%

Grubby (18)
 
3%

HuK (13)
 
2%

CoCa (9)
 
1%

SaSe (8)
 
1%

Kas (8)
 
1%

Puzzle (7)
 
1%

HyuN (7)
 
1%

SortOf (7)
 
1%

Verdi (7)
 
1%

605 total votes

Your vote: Who do you think will win DreamHack?

(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): CoCa
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Puzzle
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): HyuN
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): TLO
(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): Kas
(Vote): SortOf
(Vote): HuK
(Vote): GuMiho
(Vote): Verdi
(Vote): Jaedong


Poll: Who do you want to win DreamHack?

NaNiwa (166)
 
31%

TLO (69)
 
13%

Leenock (56)
 
10%

Grubby (56)
 
10%

Jaedong (43)
 
8%

Stephano (42)
 
8%

HerO (23)
 
4%

HuK (23)
 
4%

GuMiho (16)
 
3%

Kas (13)
 
2%

SaSe (9)
 
2%

Verdi (6)
 
1%

CoCa (5)
 
1%

SortOf (4)
 
1%

Puzzle (3)
 
1%

HyuN (3)
 
1%

537 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win DreamHack?

(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): CoCa
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Puzzle
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): HyuN
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): TLO
(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): Kas
(Vote): SortOf
(Vote): HuK
(Vote): GuMiho
(Vote): Verdi
(Vote): Jaedong

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
April 27 2013 03:08 GMT
#130
so I went to twitch for vods, there seems to be one upload with 3 hours of D1 and few other short ones with just music w/o games. Shouldnt there be more?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 03:11:05
April 27 2013 03:09 GMT
#131
head: gumiho
heart: totallynotegnaniwa
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
April 27 2013 03:10 GMT
#132
Is Polt seriously out!?!? O.o
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
April 27 2013 03:12 GMT
#133
Head: Leenock or possibly GuMiho
Heart: HyuN or GuMiho (Leenock has won enough tournaments already, give others a chance :p)
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ThreeSixDrew
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada183 Posts
April 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#134
Day 1 was amazing. Day 2 can only be better! Foreingers fighting!
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
April 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#135
On April 27 2013 12:10 dynwar7 wrote:
Is Polt seriously out!?!? O.o

Yeah he got protossed.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 27 2013 03:24 GMT
#136
Gumiho to win it all!
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 03:29:39
April 27 2013 03:28 GMT
#137
bo3 to the finals wow is it 2010 again

sigh
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 07:31:34
April 27 2013 03:45 GMT
#138
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Totally agree with this.


On April 27 2013 11:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Lol. GSL never had to flip a coin to decide who advances from their groups.


I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous blank statement. The only reason GSL doesn't have coinflip situations occur is because they have fewer matches in the group stages. They don't let every player face eachother which makes it less fair (if fair is defined as having the best players advancing from the group). In a GSL style format, this is what would have happened:

Yugioh > Strelok
Lucifron > Timestamp

Lucifron > Yugioh
Strelok > Timestamp

Strelok > Yugioh

Lucifron and Strelok advances. The reason Strelok advances over Yugioh (even though they're 1-1 in matches) is because he happened to win those matches in the "correct order". How does that makes sense? Yugioh also suffers from having to play a tougher opponent in Lucifron, while Strelok is matched up against Timestamp. The reason Lucifron advances is because he never had to play Strelok, against whom he would've lost. How is that fair?

Seriously, Dreamhack goes to great length trying to determine the rightful winners of the groups. They allow for more matches than GSL, which makes it more fair. However, at some point they just can't keep letting the players play tie-breakers.

Cliff notes:
Stop bitching about coinflips, Dreamhack's group format is better than GSL's for determining the best players. That's not even up for debate. If anything, argue that Dreamhack's format is too time consuming or that coinflips look bad for the casual and uneducated viewer.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 27 2013 03:54 GMT
#139
Polt is out? Huk and Grubby through?

Wtf is going on here
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
April 27 2013 04:02 GMT
#140
On April 27 2013 12:54 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Polt is out? Huk and Grubby through?

Wtf is going on here

Polt said he was incredibly distracted mentally and simply couldn't focus well enough in his best match-up. Sad to say as a Polt fan, but he just slumped hard today.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 558 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
KCM Race Survival
10:00
Regular season
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 815
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 82
CranKy Ducklings18
LiquipediaDiscussion
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
Group A
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
PiGStarcraft926
IndyStarCraft 190
TKL 150
Rex121
IntoTheiNu 1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft926
IndyStarCraft 209
TKL 155
ProTech129
Rex 121
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25129
Horang2 5763
GuemChi 2772
Hyuk 2409
Sea 1452
Bisu 654
Jaedong 454
ZerO 310
Mini 246
BeSt 192
[ Show more ]
Stork 168
Mong 134
Rush 130
EffOrt 121
Last 109
Snow 102
ggaemo 98
hero 88
Light 83
Pusan 77
Soulkey 50
Barracks 37
Hyun 36
ToSsGirL 34
Hm[arnc] 34
Yoon 31
sSak 31
JulyZerg 28
NaDa 26
Free 25
NotJumperer 24
sorry 23
Bale 19
JYJ 18
scan(afreeca) 18
910 17
ZergMaN 12
Movie 9
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 616
canceldota48
XcaliburYe3
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1533
Stewie2K1383
shoxiejesuss1039
zeus1039
m0e_tv600
allub310
edward102
kRYSTAL_51
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King105
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor150
Other Games
singsing1031
Liquid`RaSZi1029
ceh9611
JimRising 430
crisheroes105
Trikslyr28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick607
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 64
• LUISG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1202
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1h 18m
OSC
1h 18m
Replay Cast
13h 18m
PiG Sty Festival
22h 18m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
23h 18m
Epic.LAN
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 22h
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 23h
Epic.LAN
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.