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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10140 Posts
April 24 2013 19:56 GMT
#1041
On April 25 2013 04:53 DaCruise wrote:
Hasuobs getting punished for only knowing one build. Not worthy of code S imo.


The code S reference made smile.

And i agree, but well, until the next challenger we won't get really all of the top EU HotS players into premium imho.
Iberville
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada207 Posts
April 24 2013 19:56 GMT
#1042
On April 25 2013 04:53 DaCruise wrote:
Hasuobs getting punished for only knowing one build. Not worthy of code S imo.

This. He didn't identify the double starports reactoring vikings and refused to go on Templar tech all throughout the series which could have turned the game around.

Then again, he whiffed so many storms during Game 1 it might not have mattered...
I promise not to make a tasteless joke.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 24 2013 19:58 GMT
#1043
Stop calling it Code S, call it Code F if you want it fits better.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 24 2013 19:58 GMT
#1044
what a gooooal! Lewandoski!!!
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
April 24 2013 19:58 GMT
#1045
On April 25 2013 04:55 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:50 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:46 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:44 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Kasaraki wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:38 freerolll wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:36 Ender985 wrote:
Damnit Luci, you won too fast! I just came home hoping to catch some games and I learn he 2-0'd everyone and is already classified? Good job!




You should watch those games! He might be the best foreign terran


He needs to face off against ThorZain so we know for sure who is the best foreign terran! Can't think of anyone else who is as good as those two.

What about Demu?


Demu will get crushed and I like demu. But Luci and Thorzain is in another league

Lol not really .

Demuslim the NA ladder hero and his legions of fanboys, sigh.

I am not even a fan . He goes toe to toe with koreans like Polt and Byun . Just shows How good he is .

But the key word is ladder, he has always been one of the best foreign players in ladder but his nerves and one-dimensional playstyle are major shortcomings.

Happy is actually very similar to him, he had huge winrates in EU ladder but never does that well in tournaments.


What foreign players do have actual results though?

Huk, Stephano, Mana and Thorzain are the only foreigners to win more than one major LAN with Koreans present.

People are acting like Lucifron has great results, but his only top three finish in a tournament of any significance was WCS Europe, a tournament without Koreans.

I don't see how you can call Demuslim a ladder hero and Lucifron a guy with real results, he's not. Kas has better results than Lucifron really and the only foreign Terran with real results is Thorzain.


EU GM's have been calling Lucifron scary as hell for a long time. He hasn't been playing full time, took huge chunks of time off etc. He just hasn't entered that many tournaments. He has won tournaments btw, mostly online ones. LANs aren't the only things. You can tell a lot from online cups etc about a player.
Red and yellow are all I see
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26572 Posts
April 24 2013 19:59 GMT
#1046
Come on Dortmund dagnabbit
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 24 2013 19:59 GMT
#1047
On April 25 2013 04:58 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Stop calling it Code S, call it Code F if you want it fits better.

what's the F stand for?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 24 2013 19:59 GMT
#1048
Lol @ all the football posts!
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
April 24 2013 20:00 GMT
#1049
Sick hat trick Lewandowski.

Bayern playing so well. Win 4-0 then their two players Goetze and Lewa take RM apart.
Red and yellow are all I see
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
April 24 2013 20:00 GMT
#1050
On April 25 2013 04:59 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:58 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Stop calling it Code S, call it Code F if you want it fits better.

what's the F stand for?

Foreigner obviously.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 20:00:58
April 24 2013 20:00 GMT
#1051
On April 25 2013 04:58 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Stop calling it Code S, call it Code F if you want it fits better.


Are you trying to ruin Stephano's fans the fun of finally being able to call Stephano code S ?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 24 2013 20:01 GMT
#1052
On April 25 2013 04:59 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:58 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Stop calling it Code S, call it Code F if you want it fits better.

what's the F stand for?


not S. :D
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
April 24 2013 20:02 GMT
#1053
At least the last set is ZvT. This can escalate and hopefully end much more quickly.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 24 2013 20:02 GMT
#1054
On April 25 2013 04:58 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:55 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:50 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:46 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:44 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Kasaraki wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:38 freerolll wrote:
[quote]



You should watch those games! He might be the best foreign terran


He needs to face off against ThorZain so we know for sure who is the best foreign terran! Can't think of anyone else who is as good as those two.

What about Demu?


Demu will get crushed and I like demu. But Luci and Thorzain is in another league

Lol not really .

Demuslim the NA ladder hero and his legions of fanboys, sigh.

I am not even a fan . He goes toe to toe with koreans like Polt and Byun . Just shows How good he is .

But the key word is ladder, he has always been one of the best foreign players in ladder but his nerves and one-dimensional playstyle are major shortcomings.

Happy is actually very similar to him, he had huge winrates in EU ladder but never does that well in tournaments.


What foreign players do have actual results though?

Huk, Stephano, Mana and Thorzain are the only foreigners to win more than one major LAN with Koreans present.

People are acting like Lucifron has great results, but his only top three finish in a tournament of any significance was WCS Europe, a tournament without Koreans.

I don't see how you can call Demuslim a ladder hero and Lucifron a guy with real results, he's not. Kas has better results than Lucifron really and the only foreign Terran with real results is Thorzain.


EU GM's have been calling Lucifron scary as hell for a long time. He hasn't been playing full time, took huge chunks of time off etc. He just hasn't entered that many tournaments. He has won tournaments btw, mostly online ones. LANs aren't the only things. You can tell a lot from online cups etc about a player.


People say Demuslim is a great player too. I'm not even a Demuslim fan I'm just correcting people who are laughing at Demuslim's achievements and acting like Lucifron has loads of achievements.

They're both all hype and minimal results.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 24 2013 20:03 GMT
#1055
i guess a lot of people watch both and have both threads open and post in the wrong thread by accident :D
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 20:05:46
April 24 2013 20:05 GMT
#1056
On April 25 2013 04:55 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:50 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:46 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:44 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Kasaraki wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:38 freerolll wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:36 Ender985 wrote:
Damnit Luci, you won too fast! I just came home hoping to catch some games and I learn he 2-0'd everyone and is already classified? Good job!




You should watch those games! He might be the best foreign terran


He needs to face off against ThorZain so we know for sure who is the best foreign terran! Can't think of anyone else who is as good as those two.

What about Demu?


Demu will get crushed and I like demu. But Luci and Thorzain is in another league

Lol not really .

Demuslim the NA ladder hero and his legions of fanboys, sigh.

I am not even a fan . He goes toe to toe with koreans like Polt and Byun . Just shows How good he is .

But the key word is ladder, he has always been one of the best foreign players in ladder but his nerves and one-dimensional playstyle are major shortcomings.

Happy is actually very similar to him, he had huge winrates in EU ladder but never does that well in tournaments.


What foreign players do have actual results though?

Huk, Stephano, Mana and Thorzain are the only foreigners to win more than one major LAN with Koreans present.

People are acting like Lucifron has great results, but his only top three finish in a tournament of any significance was WCS Europe, a tournament without Koreans.

I don't see how you can call Demuslim a ladder hero and Lucifron a guy with real results, he's not. Kas has better results than Lucifron really and the only foreign Terran with real results is Thorzain.

I never said Lucifron had great results, but I do think he performs better in tournaments than Demuslim.

I guess exposure plays a big part to it too, Lucifron takes part in plenty of big tournaments and even if he tends to lose in the RO8 or something, at least he shows good games and is usually the most successful foreigner terran of that respective tournament, for what its worth.

Demuslim on the other hand doesn't really partake in tournaments, not sure if its EGs decision or his but we really only get to see him play when he streams.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 20:05:32
April 24 2013 20:05 GMT
#1057
On April 25 2013 05:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:58 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:55 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:50 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:46 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:44 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Kasaraki wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:
[quote]

He needs to face off against ThorZain so we know for sure who is the best foreign terran! Can't think of anyone else who is as good as those two.

What about Demu?


Demu will get crushed and I like demu. But Luci and Thorzain is in another league

Lol not really .

Demuslim the NA ladder hero and his legions of fanboys, sigh.

I am not even a fan . He goes toe to toe with koreans like Polt and Byun . Just shows How good he is .

But the key word is ladder, he has always been one of the best foreign players in ladder but his nerves and one-dimensional playstyle are major shortcomings.

Happy is actually very similar to him, he had huge winrates in EU ladder but never does that well in tournaments.


What foreign players do have actual results though?

Huk, Stephano, Mana and Thorzain are the only foreigners to win more than one major LAN with Koreans present.

People are acting like Lucifron has great results, but his only top three finish in a tournament of any significance was WCS Europe, a tournament without Koreans.

I don't see how you can call Demuslim a ladder hero and Lucifron a guy with real results, he's not. Kas has better results than Lucifron really and the only foreign Terran with real results is Thorzain.


EU GM's have been calling Lucifron scary as hell for a long time. He hasn't been playing full time, took huge chunks of time off etc. He just hasn't entered that many tournaments. He has won tournaments btw, mostly online ones. LANs aren't the only things. You can tell a lot from online cups etc about a player.


People say Demuslim is a great player too. I'm not even a Demuslim fan I'm just correcting people who are laughing at Demuslim's achievements and acting like Lucifron has loads of achievements.

They're both all hype and minimal results.


Well, we can use the aligulac approach to fuel the debate about who performs better.

http://aligulac.com/periods/83/?page=1&sort=&race=t&nats=foreigners
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 24 2013 20:06 GMT
#1058
ToD is such an amazing caster
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 24 2013 20:07 GMT
#1059
On April 25 2013 04:55 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:50 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:46 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:44 Bagi wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Kasaraki wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:38 freerolll wrote:
On April 25 2013 04:36 Ender985 wrote:
Damnit Luci, you won too fast! I just came home hoping to catch some games and I learn he 2-0'd everyone and is already classified? Good job!




You should watch those games! He might be the best foreign terran


He needs to face off against ThorZain so we know for sure who is the best foreign terran! Can't think of anyone else who is as good as those two.

What about Demu?


Demu will get crushed and I like demu. But Luci and Thorzain is in another league

Lol not really .

Demuslim the NA ladder hero and his legions of fanboys, sigh.

I am not even a fan . He goes toe to toe with koreans like Polt and Byun . Just shows How good he is .

But the key word is ladder, he has always been one of the best foreign players in ladder but his nerves and one-dimensional playstyle are major shortcomings.

Happy is actually very similar to him, he had huge winrates in EU ladder but never does that well in tournaments.


What foreign players do have actual results though?

Huk, Stephano, Mana and Thorzain are the only foreigners to win more than one major LAN with Koreans present.

People are acting like Lucifron has great results, but his only top three finish in a tournament of any significance was WCS Europe, a tournament without Koreans.

I don't see how you can call Demuslim a ladder hero and Lucifron a guy with real results, he's not. Kas has better results than Lucifron really and the only foreign Terran with real results is Thorzain.


First of all Lucifron has won the gathering 2012 where most of the top foreigner players was. He also won HP Trophy 2 where Korean players like Miya,arthur,Supernova was attending. And then he got 3rd place in WCS EU. A tournament Demuslim couldn't even qualify to even though it was one of the weakest EU region to qualify from.

Once again Aeroplaneoverthesea everything you say is crap and simply not true.

Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
April 24 2013 20:07 GMT
#1060
So sad seeing Kaelaris casting in this state.
He had so much potential but he reduced himself into a laugh track.
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