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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 23 2013 10:39 GMT
#701
I'm smelling SH/Queen
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 23 2013 10:40 GMT
#702
On April 23 2013 19:35 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 19:32 Lysanias wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:31 opterown wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:30 Lysanias wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:29 bgx wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:27 EpiK wrote:
in those muta battles, do pros target fire each muta or are they just a-moving?

a move


Always the cynical i see unless it's about terran. They both targeted lower health muta's nothing A move about it.

i thought during big muta fights it was better to amove rather than try to individually target or something?


True, when you get to 25+ it's A move time. Those mostly were lower groupings and it's better to target specialy if you have the + attack. (as far as i know)


How does the + attack matter for this really? Note that carapace and attack upgrades cancel eachother out for the most part so the 'focus' ability of both is equal, only the bounce damage is worse for the attack upgrade player. That is not a reason to take some sort of other approach to micro though..


I am not an expert on it, i only read about it that in viewer numbers targeting actualy matters with +1.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 23 2013 10:40 GMT
#703
I would love if Leenock went drops after this quick OL speed. It's so much easier to go drops unnoticed if you've gotten the speed beforehand.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 23 2013 10:40 GMT
#704
On April 23 2013 19:37 Yello wrote:
Winners' Match
(Z)Leenock vs. (P)PartinG
Game 1: Daybreak


Leenock spawns in the top right
Parting spawns in the bottom left

0:00-4:00min
Parting starts with Pylon in his main and then Nexus first on 16 supply
Leenock starts with 15 Pool 16 Hatch

Parting adds a Forge in his main and Pylon and first Gateway and Cannon in the natural
Leenock scouts the natural with his first Overlordand starts and Extractor and 2 Zerglings


4:00-6:00min
2 Assimilators and Cybernetics Core for Parting
Queen and Drones for Leenock, Speed research started

still no third base by Leenock, Parting scouts the missing third before the Probes gets killed by the 2 Lings
Leenock keeps mining Gas, goes for Overlord Speed and a 2nd Gas

6:00-8:00min
Parting adds a 2nd Cannon and 2 more Assimilators and starts a Stargate and his Mothership Core
Lair started for Leenock

Phoenix in production for Parting, Leenock scouts it with a Speed-Overlord
Parting starts a Robotics, Leenock also scouts that with the same Overlord
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 23 2013 10:41 GMT
#705
On April 23 2013 19:38 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 19:31 rothsbury wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:28 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:24 teddyoojo wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:23 rothsbury wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:22 teddyoojo wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:18 Zealously wrote:
On April 23 2013 19:18 teddyoojo wrote:
i always wondered why zergs get carapace first, in a muta vs muta fight +1 attack is just as useful as +1 carapace is it?


Carapace is better

but why? doesnt +1 attack give u +1 dmg on every bounce whereas +1 carapace reduces 1 dmg from every bounce?

As others have said, first bounce is +1/3 and second bounce is +1/9.

how do mutas deal 1/9 dmg tho?

Look, Mutas deal damage like this:
-100%
-first bounce 33%
-second bounce 11%

So, it does 9/3/1 damage to 3 targets. If you upgrade +1 attack, it does 10/3/1 damage to 3 targets. Only with +3 attack it does 12/4/1 because 33% of 12 is 4.

Do you get it now?

According to the liquipedia article, the fractional damage is added on each level of upgrade, and that has always been my understanding.

SC2 has always had decimal damage; e.g. minimal attack damage is 0.5.

I know, still thought it depends all on the first attack, as I have been testing it a lot. As far as I remember with my testings, last bounce didn't change at all, but I could be wrong as I could easily mess up with my testings.

Huh, interesting. I've just been going by the liquipedia article, but it could be wrong / misleading. Would be nice for it to be cleared up for good. Although there are more important things in the world to worry about.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 23 2013 10:41 GMT
#706
I demand at least 1 swarm host build
AdministratorBreak the chains
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 10:44:04
April 23 2013 10:42 GMT
#707
On April 23 2013 19:41 Zealously wrote:
I demand at least 1 swarm host build


its gonna be one and its not gonna be pretty

damnit vipers tt
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 23 2013 10:43 GMT
#708
On April 23 2013 19:40 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 19:37 Yello wrote:
Winners' Match
(Z)Leenock vs. (P)PartinG
Game 1: Daybreak


Leenock spawns in the top right
Parting spawns in the bottom left

0:00-4:00min
Parting starts with Pylon in his main and then Nexus first on 16 supply
Leenock starts with 15 Pool 16 Hatch

Parting adds a Forge in his main and Pylon and first Gateway and Cannon in the natural
Leenock scouts the natural with his first Overlordand starts and Extractor and 2 Zerglings


4:00-6:00min
2 Assimilators and Cybernetics Core for Parting
Queen and Drones for Leenock, Speed research started

still no third base by Leenock, Parting scouts the missing third before the Probes gets killed by the 2 Lings
Leenock keeps mining Gas, goes for Overlord Speed and a 2nd Gas

6:00-8:00min
Parting adds a 2nd Cannon and 2 more Assimilators and starts a Stargate and his Mothership Core
Lair started for Leenock

Phoenix in production for Parting, Leenock scouts it with a Speed-Overlord
Parting starts a Robotics, Leenock also scouts that with the same Overlord


8:00-10:00min
3rd base, Evo Chamber and +1 range attack for Leenock
5 additional Gateways and Robotics Bay for Parting

Parting kills 3 Overlords and a few Drones with his Phoenixes, Leenock starts Hydralisk-production and range-upgrade for the Hydras
Parting starts a third base and goes for +1 attack and Colossai production

10:00-12:00min
Leenock goes for Hydra-Speed, 4th base, Spire, Hive and +2 missile attacks
Parting goes for Templar Archive and Charge research and adds more Gateways
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
April 23 2013 10:44 GMT
#709
lol bell bottom jeans over

god tasteless
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
April 23 2013 10:44 GMT
#710
Nice to see so much scouting in ZvP. Hope it pays off
리노크 👑
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
April 23 2013 10:44 GMT
#711
All Tasteless do now is agree with Artosis and describe superficially what is going on
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
April 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#712
On April 23 2013 19:44 minhblizzard wrote:
All Tasteless do now is agree with Artosis and describe superficially what is going on


Seriously, its the live report thread. Not the bitch about casters thread.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#713
On April 23 2013 19:44 minhblizzard wrote:
All Tasteless do now is agree with Artosis and describe superficially what is going on

And occasionally guess at what he thinks Artosis would say, only to be corrected by Artosis.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#714
that deathball forming from Parting is scary Oo
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#715
On April 23 2013 19:42 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 19:41 Zealously wrote:
I demand at least 1 swarm host build


its gonna be one and its not gonna be pretty

damnit vipers tt

ROFL. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
April 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#716
HAHA GG.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#717
It's kind of nice to see hydras again in PvZ.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#718
So just roach/hydra/viper when PartinG already has HT? Leenock I'm disappointed ;;
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
April 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#719
what a close game !
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
April 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#720
GG! Wp parting.
In the rear with the gear!
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