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Crax
Profile Joined April 2013
United States4 Posts
April 21 2013 03:33 GMT
#2581
Apologies for the possible noob question, but where can I see the brackets?
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 21 2013 03:33 GMT
#2582
On April 21 2013 12:29 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:26 cablesc wrote:
Axiom's in pretty good shape. Alicia's in, Crank needs to beat one non-Korean, looks like Miya might also dodged Koreans in his bracket. And Heart's lower in the loser's bracket but at least he avoided the Sage/JYP/Alive bracket.


Not to mention that Ryung's already in. The team did well today

I'm pretty happy with the brackets myself. Either Crank makes it to the Premiers, or a Chinese player does, and it would probably help the Chinese scene if he could get the upset over Crank.


Even if Crank loses this he will be in a reasonably easy lower bracket match most likely.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 21 2013 03:34 GMT
#2583
On April 21 2013 12:33 Crax wrote:
Apologies for the possible noob question, but where can I see the brackets?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_America/Qualifier/Premier

They have them on MLG site too but they are almost incomprehensible in comparison.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
April 21 2013 03:36 GMT
#2584
Does anyone know if anyone beat a Korean except quasAr?
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DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 21 2013 03:38 GMT
#2585
So this tournament is the manifestation of all my worried posts this month. Pretty much had a sick feeling, I knew Korea would take us over. At least we got our invites remaining, with a chance brings hope. I hope MLG doesn't bitch out and put NA players vs. top Koreans and at least we have a few remaining second round. =/

I have resigned myself to rooting for TB's team. I probably won't even watch tomorrow, honestly just bring on the darn real thing hehe

Dreamhack should be hilariously better than either qualifier. Its virtually like watching a cable access show vs. something on HBO.

And by that its not as if I am bashing on Axelslav because they do what they can and work pretty hard. Its just... you know what I am saying. Good night everyone!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 03:41:05
April 21 2013 03:40 GMT
#2586
On April 21 2013 12:36 monk wrote:
Does anyone know if anyone beat a Korean except quasAr?

Center lost to an American zerg named Moosegills
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2661999/1/Moosegills/
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illusiongamer
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico377 Posts
April 21 2013 03:40 GMT
#2587
On April 21 2013 12:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On April 21 2013 12:21 illusiongamer wrote:
JonSnow is now playing SC2 unbelievable


Better than his old job. At least now he can get some Ygritte


Everything is better than begin a man of the Night's watch.
"I'm such a fan of hooking" - Kaci Aitchison TI2013
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 03:42:05
April 21 2013 03:40 GMT
#2588
Crank defeats TOP 2-0 and advances to the premier league.
Congrats!
edit:
crank must be half dead by now with the amount of time he hasn't slept.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 21 2013 03:41 GMT
#2589
Ax brings the Ax!
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 21 2013 03:42 GMT
#2590
On April 21 2013 12:38 DeathProfessor wrote:
So this tournament is the manifestation of all my worried posts this month. Pretty much had a sick feeling, I knew Korea would take us over. At least we got our invites remaining, with a chance brings hope. I hope MLG doesn't bitch out and put NA players vs. top Koreans and at least we have a few remaining second round. =/

I have resigned myself to rooting for TB's team. I probably won't even watch tomorrow, honestly just bring on the darn real thing hehe

Dreamhack should be hilariously better than either qualifier. Its virtually like watching a cable access show vs. something on HBO.

And by that its not as if I am bashing on Axelslav because they do what they can and work pretty hard. Its just... you know what I am saying. Good night everyone!

Well, the groups are already set with 3 players each and the 4th player will come from the qualifiers so all groups will have at least one Korean. Some already have one, so those will have 2.
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 21 2013 03:42 GMT
#2591
On April 21 2013 12:40 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Crank defeats TOP 2-0 and advances to the premier league.
Congrats!
edit:
crank must be half dead by now with the amount of time he hasn't slept.

How can the game so fast?
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 03:43:47
April 21 2013 03:43 GMT
#2592
On April 21 2013 12:41 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Ax brings the Ax!

looks like Heart should be able to make it, too, if he can win a rematch with Apocalypse. He's the only other Korean in his bracket.
On April 21 2013 12:42 jalen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:40 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Crank defeats TOP 2-0 and advances to the premier league.
Congrats!
edit:
crank must be half dead by now with the amount of time he hasn't slept.

How can the game so fast?

pvp can be pretty short sometimes
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j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 03:44:35
April 21 2013 03:44 GMT
#2593
On April 21 2013 12:42 jalen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:40 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Crank defeats TOP 2-0 and advances to the premier league.
Congrats!
edit:
crank must be half dead by now with the amount of time he hasn't slept.

How can the game so fast?


the Apoc vs Crank cast was a replay.
Crank vs Top started a while ago.
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Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
April 21 2013 03:45 GMT
#2594
Some player's road to qualification is a lot harder than others.

Alicia had to play and beat Zenio, JYP, and Revival to qualify. Oz beat Demuslim and Alive. Who did TheStC beat? Miya, Bails, and someone named Fruitsbasket. If Crank wins his next match, he'll have qualified by beating Apocalypse, Sasquatch, and Top.

The loser's brackets are an even bigger mess. In LB1, Jaedong, Zenio, Revival, Demuslim, and Center have to scrap it out for a seed. In LB 4, only one of Sage, JYP, and Alive can qualify. Meanwhile, in LB2 the two most notable players are Hwangsin and Miya. In LB3, the most notable are Heart and Apocalypse.

One double elimination bracket will not qualify the best 8 players, they should've run at least 2 brackets.
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 03:55:57
April 21 2013 03:53 GMT
#2595
On April 21 2013 12:42 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:38 DeathProfessor wrote:
So this tournament is the manifestation of all my worried posts this month. Pretty much had a sick feeling, I knew Korea would take us over. At least we got our invites remaining, with a chance brings hope. I hope MLG doesn't bitch out and put NA players vs. top Koreans and at least we have a few remaining second round. =/

I have resigned myself to rooting for TB's team. I probably won't even watch tomorrow, honestly just bring on the darn real thing hehe

Dreamhack should be hilariously better than either qualifier. Its virtually like watching a cable access show vs. something on HBO.

And by that its not as if I am bashing on Axelslav because they do what they can and work pretty hard. Its just... you know what I am saying. Good night everyone!

Well, the groups are already set with 3 players each and the 4th player will come from the qualifiers so all groups will have at least one Korean. Some already have one, so those will have 2.

A few days ago I did some Aligulac tests to see how the group stage might play out. With Groups 6, 7, and 8 having no Koreans currently, we're guaranteed a minimum of 3 foreigners in the round of sixteen. Also, with Scarlett being Scarlett, I think a conservative estimate would be 4 foreigners in the ro16.

Also, I think players like HuK, Suppy, Goswser, Idra, Killer, and Major have the potential to pull an upset, I can see the top 16 containing as many as 8 foreigners. Realistically, I think we're looking at about 11/16 Koreans in the ro16.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
April 21 2013 04:00 GMT
#2596
So now even China is better than NA, despite the fact that Star2 is a thousand times less popular there than in the States..
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 04:01:58
April 21 2013 04:00 GMT
#2597
NA WCS secondary KR WCS. Congrats to the guys who qualified though.

On April 21 2013 13:00 iamho wrote:
So now even China is better than NA, despite the fact that Star2 is a thousand times less popular there than in the States..


War3 and BW were popular, much less time for those pros to play catch up to EU and KR than NA.
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 21 2013 04:07 GMT
#2598
On April 21 2013 13:00 iamho wrote:
So now even China is better than NA, despite the fact that Star2 is a thousand times less popular there than in the States..


Not enough evidence to reach that conclusion. The best NA has to offer are mostly already seeded into premier league. There is a pretty big gap between players like Scarlett and the NA players who were in this qualifier.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 21 2013 04:08 GMT
#2599
On April 21 2013 13:00 iamho wrote:
So now even China is better than NA, despite the fact that Star2 is a thousand times less popular there than in the States..


China should be better than NA simply because there is a strong gaming culture there. If SC2 was as popular as MOBAs or WoW was in China, the Chinese could probably keep up with the Koreans.

Granted, this is a bit of extrapolation, but I figure since China dominates Dota and does very well in LoL and in WC3, it wouldn't be stretching it to say that China has the potential to be great at SC2.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 21 2013 04:32 GMT
#2600
On April 21 2013 13:07 Cyrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 13:00 iamho wrote:
So now even China is better than NA, despite the fact that Star2 is a thousand times less popular there than in the States..


Not enough evidence to reach that conclusion. The best NA has to offer are mostly already seeded into premier league. There is a pretty big gap between players like Scarlett and the NA players who were in this qualifier.


There are plenty NA players already seeded who wouldn't of been able to qualify even if there were 50% less Koreans. NA is weak as hell and that's why you see so many Koreans. Gotta take advantage while you can. Don't blame em.
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