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Regorr
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
April 18 2013 11:55 GMT
#1721
On April 18 2013 20:54 massivez wrote:
Thing is, zerg has to play Wol Style against a Hots Terran. The new units do jackshit against bio. Buffing zerg isn't the option either i think. Is there any unit that should get a buff to cope with this?


swarmhost?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 18 2013 11:55 GMT
#1722
On April 18 2013 20:54 Brian333 wrote:
I hope that when Flash has like a 90% win rate against Zerg, Blizzard realizes that sometimes, special players just happen to win that much and it actually has little to do with balance.


If they realized this in 2011 WOL would have been better
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
April 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1723
I'm actually really impressed by Soulkey. He played really fucking well, but well, Flash is Flash.

I hope SK advances too.
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
April 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1724
When Symbol 2-0ed Keen yesterday Zerg seemed pretty good...

Stop trying to judge balance from a couple of games.

Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1725
On April 18 2013 20:55 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:54 Brian333 wrote:
I hope that when Flash has like a 90% win rate against Zerg, Blizzard realizes that sometimes, special players just happen to win that much and it actually has little to do with balance.


If they realized this in 2011 WOL would have been better

or even when they had another chance in 2012 :/
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Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
April 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1726
On April 18 2013 20:53 Audemed wrote:
Widow mines so exciting and balanced -.-


It makes the game more exciting...more exciting than the borefest that were infestors+BLs...give Zerg some time to adapt, they'll find a way.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
April 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1727
On April 18 2013 20:54 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:51 Severian wrote:
Flash doesn't seem to be transitioning at all so it remains to be seen what happens if someone manages to get to Hive earlier on before falling behind.

The constant aggression is what prevents his opponents from going fast hive...

Yes, but if they do manage to get to Hive (which Soulkey did, just too late) I don't think he can win with MMMM alone, which seems to be all he plans on building.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
April 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1728
Idk if flash's macro is good now. His BW macro, that WAS good. Holy cheater terran!
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
April 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1729
On April 18 2013 20:55 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:54 Brian333 wrote:
I hope that when Flash has like a 90% win rate against Zerg, Blizzard realizes that sometimes, special players just happen to win that much and it actually has little to do with balance.


If they realized this in 2011 WOL would have been better


it just means terran has the highest skill cap, then, and therefore is the strongest race if played near-perfectly...

it's been known for a long time, but other Terrans have always had holes in their play/got injured.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
April 18 2013 11:58 GMT
#1730
What's the rock tune?
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 18 2013 11:58 GMT
#1731
On April 18 2013 20:55 Regorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:54 massivez wrote:
Thing is, zerg has to play Wol Style against a Hots Terran. The new units do jackshit against bio. Buffing zerg isn't the option either i think. Is there any unit that should get a buff to cope with this?


swarmhost?

What are those going to do against bio? First of all you need a critical mass to be even useful. Even if you can somehow make them without getting straight up killed by someone like Flash, he can simply sacrifice MMMM and pushes his way through to get the swarmhost. or he simply drops the swarmhosts and its over before it begins.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 18 2013 11:58 GMT
#1732
On April 18 2013 20:55 Regorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:54 massivez wrote:
Thing is, zerg has to play Wol Style against a Hots Terran. The new units do jackshit against bio. Buffing zerg isn't the option either i think. Is there any unit that should get a buff to cope with this?


swarmhost?


Wait until they discover them in ZvP. Swarm hosts are not bad.
It pains me to say but... the infestor maybe? Make it a more vs light specific caster or smth.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 18 2013 11:58 GMT
#1733
On April 18 2013 20:57 Zorgaz wrote:
When Symbol 2-0ed Keen yesterday Zerg seemed pretty good...

Stop trying to judge balance from a couple of games.



What are you crazy?!
Balance can only be determined by the most recent game.

As soon as B4 vs Maru happens balance will have changed again! AND THEN WE GET TO COMPLAIN AGAIN!
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labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 11:59:45
April 18 2013 11:58 GMT
#1734
On April 18 2013 20:54 massivez wrote:
Thing is, zerg has to play Wol Style against a Hots Terran. The new units do jackshit against bio. Buffing zerg isn't the option either i think. Is there any unit that should get a buff to cope with this?

WoL style? When was the last time you saw BL + Infestor play vs Terran? No, thought so.

Also, don't forget that both Mutas and Ultras are massively better in HOTS than in WoL.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
April 18 2013 11:59 GMT
#1735
On April 18 2013 20:57 shadymmj wrote:
Idk if flash's macro is good now. His BW macro, that WAS good. Holy cheater terran!


It's still good, he outmaxes Zergs first when it should be the other way around. :p
Kordox
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark142 Posts
April 18 2013 11:59 GMT
#1736
Is it just me or does the zoozoo tune seem to constantly skip and stutter? It's the ad itself and not a stream issue.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 18 2013 11:59 GMT
#1737
On April 18 2013 20:55 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:54 Brian333 wrote:
I hope that when Flash has like a 90% win rate against Zerg, Blizzard realizes that sometimes, special players just happen to win that much and it actually has little to do with balance.


If they realized this in 2011 WOL would have been better


hahaha yep nailed it
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
April 18 2013 11:59 GMT
#1738
Damn, I missed Flash's games. How did he look?
sths
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Australia192 Posts
April 18 2013 11:59 GMT
#1739
Widow mines, out for barely 6 weeks in current form. No complaints from Toss players.

Zerg players: OMG IMBA IMBA WTFOMGBBQ.

Winfestors not changed for 6+months. Terran and Toss players complain its too op.

Zerg players: Fuck just learn to split you noobs.

NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 18 2013 11:59 GMT
#1740
On April 18 2013 20:59 forsooth wrote:
Damn, I missed Flash's games. How did he look?

he looked like Flash ;P
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