On April 14 2013 14:11 inseongdak wrote: This coach park is so overrated. two fluke wins from all in cheese games and people treat them like some unstoppable team that nobody will beat
did you even watch the games? oh wait no you didn't because you're just a hater.
Yeah I agree.
If the players themselves are saying things are better (Taeja for example), then things must be going better. One loss isn't a big deal. Unless the team goes on a loser streak again, then we'll worry. Right now, we'll just have to wait and see (but again, at least from what players have said, the training/practicing has been organized better at the least, so the question is how much will they improve from Coach Park?).
One loss is still acceptable and if you ignore map points (which only matter in ties), EGTL isn't far behind.
On April 14 2013 14:14 LighT. wrote: Jaedong vs P is painful to watch.. I dont get how someone could be so freakin good at two match ups but so utterly hopeless in the 3rd.
JYP vs Z is a joke. True + baby are ballers.
I feel you there. Jaedongs zvz is amazing and his zvt looks really good (from his stream haven't seen official matches in hots yet) but his zvp is just... Yeah it's pretty bad.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt in his proleague games because he got cannon rushed in 1 and we all know how that can throw off your game and in his first game he got 7 gated and held until his warren finished but a little sloppy win due to him forcing the base trade
But this one and from his stream he really needs to work on that zvp.
But the people saying jaedong is awful because his zvp isn't that good jesus christ being bad at 1 mu doesn't = awful or losing twice in a row doesn't = awful or flash would be considered awful considering he's on a 3 game losing streak right now.
On April 14 2013 14:09 RiceAgainst wrote: 4-0. Why Coach Park? You were supposed to be working miracles...
Can't work miracles when your good players aren't playing. How come Taeja was out? Same with Liquid Hero.
Hero played first, right? Jaedong also played, no?
Oh whoops. Well who else on EG-TL can play in Proleague that is actually a strong player? Hero definitely isn't imo, but he's the best Liquid has to offer right now. Unless they send TLO or Ret or Sheth over for them to train and stuff, but Dreamhack is coming up so I highly doubt that will happen. Snute I can't comment because I don't know much about him.
Right now, I feel it's more like EG carrying EG-TL, and even then EG-TL is getting destroyed.
On April 14 2013 14:09 RiceAgainst wrote: 4-0. Why Coach Park? You were supposed to be working miracles...
Can't work miracles when your good players aren't playing. How come Taeja was out? Same with Liquid Hero.
Hero was playing.. he got completely crushed by true.
I wouldn't call it crushed, he just didn't make the right decisions. That game could have gone either way.
You can say that for every SC2 game lol. The mechanics are so easy compared to BW that every game comes down to small decisions or build order strategy.
coach park said in an interview he isnt sending players out to win yet and sending them out to get a good feel of how they play and was surprised they won the last 2 matchs so actually things are still going better then Park expected still
On April 14 2013 14:15 DeathProfessor wrote: Terran is pretty screwed up Zerg and Toss players rarely get injured but Terran players seem to get injured all the time Maybe its in my head but I think im correct
They need to put in the Halftime 15min breaks from other sports, if Coach Park could get his players off tilt they may have done much better.
Still, Park still 2-1 and winning, wrong to say he isn't a good coach or a flash in the pan coach just yet. Sometimes good teams are beaten by other teams but still make playoffs so we'll see.
No it's true. Terran needs to micro so hard. My hands are starting to hurt and I just play like 3 to 4 games a day! I use a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 and Logitech MX 518 too!
On April 14 2013 14:17 Clefairy wrote: EG-TL has a lack of solid players. Most of the won games from everyone in EG-TL except Taeja before his injury were shaky lucky wins. Alive is looking to take on the part but we haven't really seen enough games from him yet. I think the odds are stacked against Coach Park. No amount of miracle working will help a slightly less skilled team.
Alive and Jaedong given more time look look like their potential and skill caps are extremely high, they just need to get there. Coach park is helping imo, it just takes time. Nobody should expect them to florish this season, it's just illogical. And i wouldn't call hero/zenio or a few of the others lesser than any of the other midtier players in other teams lineups.
On April 14 2013 14:15 DeathProfessor wrote: Terran is pretty screwed up Zerg and Toss players rarely get injured but Terran players seem to get injured all the time Maybe its in my head but I think im correct
They need to put in the Halftime 15min breaks from other sports, if Coach Park could get his players off tilt they may have done much better.
Still, Park still 2-1 and winning, wrong to say he isn't a good coach or a flash in the pan coach just yet. Sometimes good teams are beaten by other teams but still make playoffs so we'll see.
No it's true. Terran needs to micro so hard. My hands are starting to hurt and I just play like 3 to 4 games a day! I use a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 and Logitech MX 518 too!
What mouse/keyboard you use probably won't make much of a difference. Also, "ergonomic" doesn't really mean anything because different things work for different people.
The most important thing is your overall setup with desk/monitor/mouse/keyboard location. Then stretching/exercising help. Some people are more prone to pain/injury though.