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SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 15 2013 21:44 GMT
#2861
On April 16 2013 06:32 JJH777 wrote:
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On April 16 2013 06:30 kollin wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:28 JJH777 wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:24 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:18 JJH777 wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:15 kollin wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:07 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:05 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
[quote]
Indeed. And to be considered better, I'd say you'd need to match his kill-list either in individual leagues or team leagues.


We don't know how good any Europeans are right now because they've barely played HOTS competitively.

We all assume Stephano is still number one but he's been smashed in HOTS so far.

Results wise it's MaNa -> Luci/VortiX atm, I'd say. Haven't seen anything out of Stephano.

Bunny/Welmu/BratOK last foreign hopes


What have Lucifron/Vortix done in HOTS? Lucifron looked really behind at IEM but a lot has changed since then.

Mana I guess has done the best but that amounts to be good in minor team leagues and I can't really get behind that as good evidence.

ATC and Mana's achievements in it are by no means minor.


It's only a $20k prize pool it is played completely online and mostly cross server.. That is like the definition of a minor event.

Gee, almost the same prizepool as last year's DreamHack Open tournaments. How minor. We've got high standards nowadays.

It's not only the prize, it's also the players.


Those are offline individual leagues and they gave seeds to a bigger event. Aside from GSTL and Proleague I think all teamleagues are minor there is just less incentive for the players compared to individual leagues. Just see how hesitant the teams were to play their aces even in IPTL which was by far the biggest team league aside from the 2 above.

So you only count tournaments you want to count?


I only count tournaments that are actually major


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_Tournaments
liquipedia rates GSTL, SPL and ACT as premier team tournaments.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
April 15 2013 21:44 GMT
#2862
On April 16 2013 06:41 StarVe wrote:
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On April 16 2013 06:40 nihlon wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:36 JJH777 wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:36 kollin wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:32 JJH777 wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:30 kollin wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:28 JJH777 wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:24 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:18 JJH777 wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:15 kollin wrote:
[quote]
ATC and Mana's achievements in it are by no means minor.


It's only a $20k prize pool it is played completely online and mostly cross server.. That is like the definition of a minor event.

Gee, almost the same prizepool as last year's DreamHack Open tournaments. How minor. We've got high standards nowadays.

It's not only the prize, it's also the players.


Those are offline individual leagues and they gave seeds to a bigger event. Aside from GSTL and Proleague I think all teamleagues are minor there is just less incentive for the players compared to individual leagues. Just see how hesitant the teams were to play their aces even in IPTL which was by far the biggest team league aside from the 2 above.

So you only count tournaments you want to count?


I only count tournaments that are actually major

Major under your definition, despite most people disagreeing with you?


I doubt most people disagree with me. Most StarCraft fans probably haven't even heard of ATC. The only online event that has been considered major by the overall community is TSL.

Your original point was that you doubted Mana due to his results mainly being "minor" team leagues. This I really don't think people agree with regardless what you call the tournaments.

Nah, that was another person, Aeroplaneoverthesea.

Anyway, I'll focus on the tournament again. PULL IT BACK, Welmu!


I'd just like to add, that ATC has an offline final with the top 4 teams being at Take's place and I don't know why most sc fans should not have heard of the most viewed team league outside korea.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 15 2013 21:45 GMT
#2863
On April 16 2013 06:43 Serimek wrote:
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On April 16 2013 06:39 Otolia wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:36 kollin wrote:
Major under your definition, despite most people disagreeing with you?

LP is supposed to be defining the standards and we never reached a real consensus


"You do not have permission to view this thread. Click here to view the forum index." => This is the first time I encounter this in TL. Why is that ?

Some forums are restricted to users. This one is for LP editors.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 15 2013 21:45 GMT
#2864
DAT defense, that's my boy !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 15 2013 21:45 GMT
#2865
howcool would it be to have an african representative.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
April 15 2013 21:46 GMT
#2866
lol targa baneling vs hots protoss not the best idea
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 15 2013 21:46 GMT
#2867
WTFWTFWTFWTF Targa, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 21:47:14
April 15 2013 21:46 GMT
#2868
Hmm, maybe should have gone for the certain damage and killed the nexus.
On the other stream: Mechbunny!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 15 2013 21:46 GMT
#2869
Welmu's dts really have to do a lot of damage
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 15 2013 21:47 GMT
#2870
On April 16 2013 06:45 LighT. wrote:
howcool would it be to have an african representative.

Then CMStorm would have players in two WCS Premier divisions, would be great for them D:
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 21:48:31
April 15 2013 21:47 GMT
#2871
On April 16 2013 06:46 m0ck wrote:
Welmu's dts really have to do a lot of damage


Wow Pandatank is sponsored by CMstorm too?

Edit: Lol wrong quote, meant Serinox^^.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
April 15 2013 21:47 GMT
#2872
Mech against Protoss. If Bunny pulls this off, then he is the true deserved winner for sure.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 21:48:29
April 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#2873
Bunny going mech vs Welmu?
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#2874
Ah, right TargA's birthday today! well, 12 more mins left at least...
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#2875
Mech TvP! Is this real life?
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
April 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#2876
Yeaaaaa Feast !!
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#2877
On April 16 2013 06:47 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 06:46 m0ck wrote:
Welmu's dts really have to do a lot of damage


Wow Pandatank is sponsored by CMstorm too?

It says that on his twitter profile and he plays under the CMStorm ingame tag.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 15 2013 21:49 GMT
#2878
Hellbats too stronk for Welmu?
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 15 2013 21:49 GMT
#2879
PandaTank making it is kinda what the WCS is all about, the world competing, what a story if we have a representative for a whole nation of South Africa (you could even consider it a continents representative which is amazing.)
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 15 2013 21:49 GMT
#2880
ONE MORE !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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