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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 16 2013 11:34 GMT
#81
Is Flash going to be playing again today? I realise they're doing the last 16 first, but no idea what'll be on after that :p
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
March 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#82
On March 16 2013 20:34 Qikz wrote:
Is Flash going to be playing again today? I realise they're doing the last 16 first, but no idea what'll be on after that :p


Yes, all the Ro16 matches are played tonight.
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#83
are there/will there be any replays?
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 16 2013 11:57 GMT
#84
On March 16 2013 20:07 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 19:52 mememolly wrote:
On March 16 2013 17:09 Schelim wrote:
lol why is a walkover for Life the most anticipated match


because protoss are strong atm, giving minigun some sort of chance


Leenock made zerg look pretty freaking powerful early-midgame yesterday in ZvP. I'm really excited for his ZvT vs Innovation today.


man, I might have to stay up to watch that ZvT, it's on at an insane hour for me though
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 16 2013 12:02 GMT
#85
The overall tournament is damn good and a lot of fun, but I want to express again that the lack of prerecorded/prepared content about players/stories, etc. is very disappointing with the exact matchups being known long before the event.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 12:06:08
March 16 2013 12:05 GMT
#86
On March 16 2013 21:02 StarVe wrote:
The overall tournament is damn good and a lot of fun, but I want to express again that the lack of prerecorded/prepared content about players/stories, etc. is very disappointing with the exact matchups being known long before the event.

Generally the deal with MLG, they havent fixed their huge amount of downtime to people on stream after so long now.

Anyways i fell a sleep after the jjakji vs MKP series yesterday. Anyone got any recormendations for series after that worth watching?
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 16 2013 12:07 GMT
#87
Hope Stephano got some practice because Last sure did !
So hyped for Leenock vs Bogus , potentially the best series of this tournament .
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 16 2013 12:08 GMT
#88
On March 16 2013 21:05 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 21:02 StarVe wrote:
The overall tournament is damn good and a lot of fun, but I want to express again that the lack of prerecorded/prepared content about players/stories, etc. is very disappointing with the exact matchups being known long before the event.

Generally the deal with MLG, they havent fixed their huge amount of downtime to people on stream after so long now.

Anyways i fell a sleep after the jjakji vs MKP series yesterday. Anyone got any recormendations for series after that worth watching?


Well, I don't really care about downtime, when it is planned downtime and I know that it is coming (e.g. series ends quicker than expected). But they really need to work on the unplanned delays, which are probably induced by technical problems. I would've expected them to have the experience and budged to sort them out.
foxHC
Profile Joined March 2013
Norway20 Posts
March 16 2013 12:10 GMT
#89
On March 16 2013 12:14 opterown wrote:
[
21:30 GMT (+00:00)
RO8 Match 1 & 2

23:00 GMT (+00:00)
RO8 Match 3 & 4

00:30 GMT (+00:00)
RO8 Match 5 & 6

02:00 GMT (+00:00)
RO8 Match 7 & 8



it should be RO16 before RO8
gulshngill
Profile Joined December 2010
Malaysia140 Posts
March 16 2013 12:11 GMT
#90
Will MLG release replays after the tourney is over?
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 12:13:49
March 16 2013 12:12 GMT
#91
During older MLG's it used to be possible to rewind the stream, at least until it was replaced by the next day stream.
For those who couldn't watch live.

Is that feature removed or do you have to pay for it now?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
March 16 2013 12:14 GMT
#92
On March 16 2013 21:12 Zandar wrote:
During older MLG's it used to be possible to rewind the stream, at least until it was replaced by the next day stream.
For those who couldn't watch live.

Is that feature removed or do you have to pay for it now?


They just post vods now I think

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/events/23-2013-winter-championship#2424/2427/1
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 16 2013 12:18 GMT
#93
just hoping that one or two foreigners can keep up. Would be sad if foreign starcraft dies with HotS
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
March 16 2013 12:21 GMT
#94
I expect another day full of 3-0s, at least in ro32. Mvp, herO, life and bomber should all do it, though Taeja and Last surely can too. I cant believe some people predict MC to win against herO. This will rain- seed all over again, MC will be lucky to take a game off of him.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 16 2013 12:23 GMT
#95
On March 16 2013 20:28 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 20:09 sc2holar wrote:
On March 16 2013 19:51 mememolly wrote:
On March 16 2013 19:37 sc2holar wrote:
this tournament has great production value and all that but first off all i think they should have re-shuffled their cards and tried again instead of going with this R32 lineup. kinda sucks when all top tier protoss players have to play mirror matches against each others in the round of 32, ensuring that only half will make it to the second series, and that so many of my favourite foreigners had to face off against two or three time GSL champions in their first series.

This is probably the first MLG where i was legitimately wishing for a losers bracket with extended series. having a single elimination tournament right after a new expansion is released and players arent too familiar with all the new units and builds dont make much sense, since good players are likely to lose and get knocked out early because of some wierd timing builds they havent seen before. In a double elimination format you would be able to see these players adapt to that sort of jazz and have potential for some epic comebacks once a player finally figures out how to beat the build or unit composition that knocked him down in the first place.

TLDR: this is the first major hots tournament after HOTS release. players havent figured out the new units yet and there are tons of "cheap" timings out there that top tier players simply have not seen before. cut the players some slack, make it double elemination so we dont have to see fan favourites and top tier players get knocked out because of some new cute timing push that someone just invented. it would be much more fun and educating to watch if they got a second chance to come up with some answer and make an epic comeback against the odds of extended series. Also, mirror matches between some of the best players in the world is the last thing i want to see when a new expansion is out and everybody wants to see how the matchups and meta-game has changed.


dude, TLDR is meant to be short


it was short in comparison before i cut out huge chunks from the main text. surely you must have something constructive to add besides this sort of nitpicking :/? its like one step above beinga grammer nazi... if you find something in my post that you agree or disagree with, feel free to voice your opinion. pointing out "flaws" in posts like that just spreads negative energy imo

well your post overall was quite negative too

there are obviously benefits and flaws to all formats, double-elim included. personally i am sad about MKP but i know full well that this was the situation, and so be it

And plus, I don't get his argument at all. So far, all favorites have crushed their opponent without contest. The only thing we could call an upset is MKP losing, but Jjakji is a GSL champion, not some foreigner third rate player. He came very well prepared and played way better than MKP. And I say this as the biggest MKP fan.
tl;dr: No proof yet that you needed double elim to determine the best player at this event.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
March 16 2013 12:24 GMT
#96
On March 16 2013 21:21 warmus wrote:
I expect another day full of 3-0s, at least in ro32. Mvp, herO, life and bomber should all do it, though Taeja and Last surely can too. I cant believe some people predict MC to win against herO. This will rain- seed all over again, MC will be lucky to take a game off of him.

luckily that is not all! there will be some R16 too afaik.
you no take candle
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
March 16 2013 12:24 GMT
#97
Is the schedule right? It says 1:30h for each series except the first one, which has only 50min?
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
March 16 2013 12:26 GMT
#98
On March 16 2013 21:14 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 21:12 Zandar wrote:
During older MLG's it used to be possible to rewind the stream, at least until it was replaced by the next day stream.
For those who couldn't watch live.

Is that feature removed or do you have to pay for it now?


They just post vods now I think

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/events/23-2013-winter-championship#2424/2427/1


Thanks
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Milvus
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland400 Posts
March 16 2013 12:28 GMT
#99
Creator vs. Polt is gonna be so sick!

It is only normal that the players with the best fundamentals are more likely to perfrom well quickly in a new game.
And when it comes to fundamentals there simply are more top players in korea.

Foreigners will catch up again to WoL levels at some time. In the mean time, enjo the games by the quality of play and not by the origin of players!
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
March 16 2013 12:28 GMT
#100
On March 16 2013 21:24 KingPaddy wrote:
Is the schedule right? It says 1:30h for each series except the first one, which has only 50min?

The schedule is pretty confusing. after theyre done with R32, they are apparently gonna decide R16 by cointoss and jump straight to round of 8.
you no take candle
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