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On March 17 2013 08:48 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 08:42 duct_TAPE wrote:On March 17 2013 08:41 Wrathsc2 wrote:
leenock playing terrible leenock playing greeat Leenock has always been an amazing big stage player, easily one of the best of the past several years. The fact he was demolished so effectively either means he's over the hill (he's 18) or the game that's been released for 3 days needs balancing. Leenock never lost that badly in WoL.
yeah those are the ONLY two options. It can't possibly be that WoL and HoTS have a few differences in gameplay and that Innovation just outplayed him.
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On March 17 2013 09:05 umelbumel wrote:
seeing sheth. Does he still plays SC2?!?
I think he is on a break, dealing with weight and wrist pain(?), but other than that, he is still in TeamLiquid and i guess playing.
He blogged about all of this month ago or so.
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On March 17 2013 09:04 eXeZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:01 TheDwf wrote:On March 17 2013 08:59 Assirra wrote:On March 17 2013 08:58 THM wrote:
You need to stop with all the ferrarivac whining. What many people are not noticing is that the terran lineup for this tournament is ABSOLUTELY KILLER. Probably 70%+ or so of the top 10 terrans in the world are in this 32 man bracket. Of course terran will win a lot, even if this was WoL. The problem is not that they win a lot, but HOW they win. Innovation just made Leenock, a zerg who held his own since GSL open season 2 look like a foreigner patch zerg. We understand as time goes by it will get better but this is frustrating to watch. And naturally this was only because of Medivacs, and absolutely not because he opened 2-bases Mutalisks with a late third against fast triple OC each game. With the new units terran is able to deny fast third bases of zerg really easy. So zerg is basicly forced to go 2 base tech or play really risky and hope terran plays passive. But terran can open 3OC and pressure the zergs third at the same time. There lies the real problem in ZvT at the moment. Zerg is not able to come out even into the midgame with terran
Wrong. A few defensive Roaches to secure an early third is perfectly viable, watch the Bomber vs Goswser series.
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On March 17 2013 09:05 ViperPL wrote:
Rain vs Jjakji inc, hopefully we'll see some dominant play from P, showing us how to crush T.
Hell no, I have Jjakji as runner up!
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On March 17 2013 09:05 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:01 MCXD wrote:On March 17 2013 09:01 Sejanus wrote:On March 17 2013 08:59 edgeOut wrote:On March 17 2013 08:56 Assirra wrote:On March 17 2013 08:55 edgeOut wrote:On March 17 2013 08:50 Zealously wrote:On March 17 2013 08:47 Bam Lee wrote:
i have a feeling people are underestimating the amount of effort it takes to play like innovation did o.O I have a great deal of respect for Innovation's insane multitasking, but I'll admit I get kind of frustrated when a player as good as Leenock can't even take a game because there is no way to defend everywhere at once, and there seems to be no way to stop the drops. I'm confident the Zergs will find a way eventually, but this series was brutal. Maybe the reason is Leenock is just not good enough, Life probably can do better. Oh boy here it comes. Prepare for another "Terran are just better players thread" soon. I'm saying Leenock is probably not top 3 zerg, I wouldn't be surprised if he's not in top 5 zerg ranking. But Bogus is probably No.1 or 2 terran. Currently Leenock is 6th zerg and 8th overall in TLPD ELO Because the TLPD ELO is remotely accurate. And it's not like Leenock is surely better than roro or symbol. Most of his achievement are from overseas anyway.
Ten zergs :O
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On March 17 2013 09:05 Hydrate wrote:
Poor idra.
+1, dno why, but it got to me : - (
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On March 17 2013 09:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
This tournament is stacked with better Terrans than anything else anyone that can't see that is lying to themselves.
There's only A SINGLE Foreign Terran here and guess what.... he lost.
There's just way more foreign Zergs and Protoss players at this MLG just like there has been at like every other MLG in the past and frankly that's just a recipe for Terran domination in the round of 32. Now the real test begins as the flock has been thinned and the real contenders remain.
You realize the Korean qualifiers had a 100% T winrate in TvZ right?
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On March 17 2013 09:00 absinthfee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 08:59 duct_TAPE wrote:On March 17 2013 08:56 Assirra wrote:On March 17 2013 08:55 edgeOut wrote:On March 17 2013 08:50 Zealously wrote:On March 17 2013 08:47 Bam Lee wrote:
i have a feeling people are underestimating the amount of effort it takes to play like innovation did o.O I have a great deal of respect for Innovation's insane multitasking, but I'll admit I get kind of frustrated when a player as good as Leenock can't even take a game because there is no way to defend everywhere at once, and there seems to be no way to stop the drops. I'm confident the Zergs will find a way eventually, but this series was brutal. Maybe the reason is Leenock is just not good enough, Life probably can do better. Oh boy here it comes. Prepare for another "Terran are just better players thread" soon. Leenock not good enough? Are you serious? He is one of the most talented zergs in the game. Just look at his macro those games. Then you will notice why he lost.
What macro? it was ripped apart by medivacs.
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I haven't followed sc2 in like a year, starnation still hasn't released!?!?
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On March 17 2013 09:06 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:05 ViperPL wrote:
Rain vs Jjakji inc, hopefully we'll see some dominant play from P, showing us how to crush T. Hell no, I have Jjakji as runner up!
Jjakji as champion dude
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On March 17 2013 09:05 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:04 Grobyc wrote:
These random kids dancing... so awkward... I don't know, he seems genuinely happy.
He was, for sure
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On March 17 2013 09:06 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:05 umelbumel wrote:
seeing sheth. Does he still plays SC2?!? I think he is on a break, dealing with weight and wrist pain(?), but other than that, he is still in TeamLiquid and i guess playing. He blogged about all of this month ago or so.
thanks. I always liked him. Would be cool to see him play again.
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On March 17 2013 09:06 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:05 umelbumel wrote:
seeing sheth. Does he still plays SC2?!? I think he is on a break, dealing with weight and wrist pain(?), but other than that, he is still in TeamLiquid and i guess playing. He blogged about all of this month ago or so.
Yep, wrist pain was the major thing. He can't seem to get it to go away. He's had a few blogs about it.
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On March 17 2013 09:05 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:01 MCXD wrote:On March 17 2013 09:01 Sejanus wrote:On March 17 2013 08:59 edgeOut wrote:On March 17 2013 08:56 Assirra wrote:On March 17 2013 08:55 edgeOut wrote:On March 17 2013 08:50 Zealously wrote:On March 17 2013 08:47 Bam Lee wrote:
i have a feeling people are underestimating the amount of effort it takes to play like innovation did o.O I have a great deal of respect for Innovation's insane multitasking, but I'll admit I get kind of frustrated when a player as good as Leenock can't even take a game because there is no way to defend everywhere at once, and there seems to be no way to stop the drops. I'm confident the Zergs will find a way eventually, but this series was brutal. Maybe the reason is Leenock is just not good enough, Life probably can do better. Oh boy here it comes. Prepare for another "Terran are just better players thread" soon. I'm saying Leenock is probably not top 3 zerg, I wouldn't be surprised if he's not in top 5 zerg ranking. But Bogus is probably No.1 or 2 terran. Currently Leenock is 6th zerg and 8th overall in TLPD ELO Because the TLPD ELO is remotely accurate. And it's not like Leenock is surely better than roro or symbol. Most of his achievement are from overseas anyway.
Since this is an overseas tournament and he's better than both of those combined (as much as we know so far) at that format, yes, that counts.
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On March 17 2013 09:06 Hydrate wrote:
I haven't followed sc2 in like a year, starnation still hasn't released!?!?
It's getting there 
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On March 17 2013 09:06 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:06 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 09:05 ViperPL wrote:
Rain vs Jjakji inc, hopefully we'll see some dominant play from P, showing us how to crush T. Hell no, I have Jjakji as runner up! Jjakji as champion dude
Never doubt Mvp!
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On March 17 2013 09:06 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 09:06 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 09:05 ViperPL wrote:
Rain vs Jjakji inc, hopefully we'll see some dominant play from P, showing us how to crush T. Hell no, I have Jjakji as runner up! Jjakji as champion dude
You know what you're doing!
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This interview lacks destructible rocks
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