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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
March 16 2013 16:06 GMT
#181
On March 17 2013 01:05 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 01:05 Daogin wrote:
On March 17 2013 01:03 sparklyresidue wrote:
I actually want to watch both of these games... I'm really interested in seeing CJ herO play, but then again there's Mvp.....

I doubt Hero has been able to practice very much Hots, also its PvP, MVP = instant win their

That's what everyone says about everyone though. I'm assuming none of these guys really have a hell of a lot more experience than anyone else.

I guess we will just have to see then!
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 16 2013 16:06 GMT
#182
On March 17 2013 01:02 Al Bundy wrote:
So it's been about 12-13 years since starcraft has become competitive. We have professional teams with professional managers and professional coaches. How come the gap between Koreans & Foreigners is still present? After such a long time, it's starting to look like a big fucking joke. I'm starting to feel like an idiot for supporting these foreign players and teams. So what's happening? Someone is not doing his job properly, either the coach or the players. We've had more than a decade to analyze and understand the korean training regimen. I think that either the coaches are doing a crap job, either the foreign players just don't want to be the best. Maybe they are just content with having a salary and a bed.


popularity of starcraft in Korea: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
popularity of esports in the rest of the world: I

which directly leads to sustainability, talentpool, training motivation etc.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 16:08:13
March 16 2013 16:06 GMT
#183
My predictions!

- Mvp 3-0 Feast. Mvp eats better people for breakfast. Feast might have something creative up his sleeve but I doubt he'll take more than one game at best.

- CJherO 3-2 MC. This could go either way. PvP is super random atm.

- Taeja 3-1 SaSe. It's Taeja guys. Taeja's multitasking is ridiculous. I don't think he'll lose a single game to protoss with the new medivacs but SaSe is always good for a surprise.

- Minigun 3-2 Life. YES THAT'S RIGHT. Chad M. Jones' PvZ was the best in NA in WoL, which arguably might not mean much against the giant that is Life, but Minigun has been nothing short of impressive in HotS, especially PvZ. Life might underestimate him. I kind of expect Life to win but I'll predict the upset for the fuck of it.

- Stephano 3-2 Last. Last might take the series with his early/midgame shenanigans and strategies but if Stephano adapts to it and gets into his game, Last won't be able to beat him I feel.

- Bomber 3-1 Goswer. Goswer did beat Mvp in a Bo3 but this is a new game that's not played in the shadow of BL/Infestor and his opponent isn't a man with no wrists. The exact opposite in fact, it's a man with wrists that have ridiculous macro in them.

- Polt 3-1 Creator. Poor protoss. Creator's style especially will have huge trouble against Polt who also, just so by the way, seems to be one of the absolute best HotS players atm. That and he 5-1d Creator in IPL Fightclub.

- ThorZain 3-1 Killer. I have actually never seen a single Killer game but Terran is good right now and Thorzain has played HotS for a looong time so I'm giving it to him.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 16 2013 16:07 GMT
#184
Go Mvp!
Show that amazing play we saw at LG-IEM.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 16:11:43
March 16 2013 16:07 GMT
#185
On March 17 2013 01:02 Al Bundy wrote:
So it's been about 12-13 years since starcraft has become competitive. We have professional teams with professional managers and professional coaches. How come the gap between Koreans & Foreigners is still present? After such a long time, it's starting to look like a big fucking joke. I'm starting to feel like an idiot for supporting these foreign players and teams. So what's happening? Someone is not doing his job properly, either the coach or the players. We've had more than a decade to analyze and understand the korean training regimen. I think that either the coaches are doing a crap job, either the foreign players just don't want to be the best. Maybe they are just content with having a salary and a bed.


Foreigners are not under the same pressure to perform. The standards are a lot lower for them and they can coast by with their "personality" whereas Koreans need to reach Code A level before anyone even knows their name, and then have to make their money and develop a fanbase through results. Consider someone like Machine who has been sitting on EG for 3 years and is worse than ever with literally 0 accomplishments to speak of. A Korean could never get away with that, they would have to either get good, find a new career or starve.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 16 2013 16:07 GMT
#186
On March 17 2013 01:02 Al Bundy wrote:
So it's been about 12-13 years since starcraft has become competitive. We have professional teams with professional managers and professional coaches. How come the gap between Koreans & Foreigners is still present? After such a long time, it's starting to look like a big fucking joke. I'm starting to feel like an idiot for supporting these foreign players and teams. So what's happening? Someone is not doing his job properly, either the coach or the players. We've had more than a decade to analyze and understand the korean training regimen. I think that either the coaches are doing a crap job, either the foreign players just don't want to be the best. Maybe they are just content with having a salary and a bed.


We already have all the answers needed.

Coaches that actually coach the players.
B teams to help training.
A real training schedule with tactic talk etc.
A house to get all the A teamers together with the coaches.
And ofc the biggest thing of all, dedication.
The curse is real
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 16 2013 16:07 GMT
#187
Time for MVP to have at his feast.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 16 2013 16:08 GMT
#188
On March 17 2013 00:43 sc2holar wrote:
Man theres gotta be a lot of pressure on stephano now, it would be pretty sad if foreigners simply went 0 - X in series against korea and i feel like everyone is looking at him to sort of set things straight and carry our flag.
with "our flag" literary meaning every country in the world except for that rather small piece of land called South Korea that thanks to E-sports and PSY is slowly becming the new global superpower.
Its gotta feel tough, but then again Stephano seems to not overthink these things and just get into his booth, put on his headset and play the game as if he was sittting at home in his pyjamas, eating Ben and Jerry's to the ambient noise of some Two and a Half men rerun buzzing from his TV set on the wall behind him. Maybe he can mentally transport himself to this Boyroom of Solitude whenever and wherever he wants and thereby completley seal of any nerves or outside pressure.

If this is indeed the case and not just my wild imagination trying to paint an insultingly romantic image of a young man with a special talent and the world at his feet, i would defeinitely pay him for some kind of cognitive behavioural therapy coaching to learn the secret.


I don't know what you've been smoking but that shit must be good.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 16 2013 16:08 GMT
#189
Same game on both streams?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
March 16 2013 16:08 GMT
#190
On March 17 2013 01:06 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 01:05 sparklyresidue wrote:
On March 17 2013 01:05 Daogin wrote:
On March 17 2013 01:03 sparklyresidue wrote:
I actually want to watch both of these games... I'm really interested in seeing CJ herO play, but then again there's Mvp.....

I doubt Hero has been able to practice very much Hots, also its PvP, MVP = instant win their

That's what everyone says about everyone though. I'm assuming none of these guys really have a hell of a lot more experience than anyone else.

I guess we will just have to see then!

I just want these games to start!! ^^
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
March 16 2013 16:08 GMT
#191
On March 17 2013 00:55 GunSec wrote:
LOL @ above poster u ever heard about samsung?

yeah. its a corporate monster on the global scale and as far as i know south koreans biggest export icon, wich is why it did NOT fit in with the ironic tone in my post.
you no take candle
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 16 2013 16:08 GMT
#192
On March 17 2013 01:08 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 00:43 sc2holar wrote:
Man theres gotta be a lot of pressure on stephano now, it would be pretty sad if foreigners simply went 0 - X in series against korea and i feel like everyone is looking at him to sort of set things straight and carry our flag.
with "our flag" literary meaning every country in the world except for that rather small piece of land called South Korea that thanks to E-sports and PSY is slowly becming the new global superpower.
Its gotta feel tough, but then again Stephano seems to not overthink these things and just get into his booth, put on his headset and play the game as if he was sittting at home in his pyjamas, eating Ben and Jerry's to the ambient noise of some Two and a Half men rerun buzzing from his TV set on the wall behind him. Maybe he can mentally transport himself to this Boyroom of Solitude whenever and wherever he wants and thereby completley seal of any nerves or outside pressure.

If this is indeed the case and not just my wild imagination trying to paint an insultingly romantic image of a young man with a special talent and the world at his feet, i would defeinitely pay him for some kind of cognitive behavioural therapy coaching to learn the secret.


I don't know what you've been smoking but that shit must be good.


That put a smile on my face.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
March 16 2013 16:09 GMT
#193
On March 17 2013 01:08 sitromit wrote:
Same game on both streams?

Yes. Blue should have herO vs. MC with iNcontroL and djWheat on the call.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 16 2013 16:09 GMT
#194
On March 17 2013 01:08 sitromit wrote:
Same game on both streams?

I think it's just same pregame show. MC vs CJherO is supposed to be on the second stream
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Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
March 16 2013 16:10 GMT
#195
On March 17 2013 01:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 01:08 sitromit wrote:
Same game on both streams?

I think it's just same pregame show. MC vs CJherO is supposed to be on the second stream

Yea just pregame.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 16:11:24
March 16 2013 16:10 GMT
#196
On March 17 2013 01:06 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 01:04 Benjamin99 wrote:
On March 17 2013 00:57 Mensol wrote:
Last will beat Stephano.

Stephano can't keep up with Last's multitask skills, especially with medivac boost.



Heh Multitasking is Stephano´s greatest str and one of the main reason he is so good. With that said I think the match will be 50/50

On March 17 2013 01:02 Al Bundy wrote:
So it's been about 12-13 years since starcraft has become competitive. We have professional teams with professional managers and professional coaches. How come the gap between Koreans & Foreigners is still present? After such a long time, it's starting to look like a big fucking joke. I'm starting to feel like an idiot for supporting these foreign players and teams. So what's happening? Someone is not doing his job properly, either the coach or the players. We've had more than a decade to analyze and understand the korean training regimen. I think that either the coaches are doing a crap job, either the foreign players just don't want to be the best. Maybe they are just content with having a salary and a bed.


No such thing as foreigners only good and bad players exist

Thats why Bogus destroyed him with pure multitask in GSL?


1 Match as evidence??. I could say Stephano destroyed DRG and Life aswell they must have bad multitasking(See I got 2 matches as evidence). Seriously get back to reality. Stephano´s main str is his speed and multitasking
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 16 2013 16:10 GMT
#197
Will Ret vs Flash be played today?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 16:11:55
March 16 2013 16:11 GMT
#198
Haven't MC just won like 2 premier foreign tournaments or am I totally wrong on that part?

edit: always find it quite odd when the casters say that he fly around the world and wins tournaments when he in fact often just place in the top.
The curse is real
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
March 16 2013 16:11 GMT
#199
On March 17 2013 01:10 Hylirion wrote:
Will Ret vs Flash be played today?

Yep
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Shallot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States58 Posts
March 16 2013 16:12 GMT
#200
I can't really say enough how great Axslav and Axeltoss have been in both the WSS's and this event so far. By far the best casting duo other than Apollo/anyone.
A shallot is the love child of garlic and onion.
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