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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 10 2013 06:46 smogg wrote: First GSL final I didn't watch. And I don't intend to. Roro winning is complete bullshit. How can someone winning be bullshit? | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On March 10 2013 06:45 Scrubwave wrote: Not even 100 pages? Where are the people who had claimed previously that OH YOU'LL WATCH THE FINALS ANYWAY, YOU WON'T FOOL ANYONE, eh? I reserved my stamina for Dota 2 G-League finals and botched GSL. Totally worth it. | ||
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Salivanth
Australia1071 Posts
The finals were pretty good though, with the exception of the mistake that cost Symbol the last game. I was going for RorO, but it was a fairly anticlimactic end to a great finals. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On March 10 2013 04:35 Severedevil wrote: At the time of the article -- and for quite some time after the article -- SC2 was dominated by BW has-beens and BW never-will-be's. The GSL was the minor league, which received disproportionate attention solely because it played a newer game than the players who could hack it in the big leagues. Its competition was a farce. The elephant observation has nothing to do with new powerhouses like Life, who never quit Broodwar for an easier competitive scene. As you say, we never found out whether they could be Broodwar contenders! But the dominant crowd for a long time was Broodwar wash-outs (or, the best of them, a middle-of-the-road A-teamer). They were not champions -- they were the breakfast of champions. Bullshit, you're basically saying Roro was the stuff of legend when he was actually nothing special. Roro wasn't a champion either, the champions of BW aren't winning anything yet The article is still wrong and a massive "fuck you" to the SC2 crowd and scene, and should never have been published. Edit: Toned it down just a tiny little bit | ||
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courtpanda
866 Posts
On March 10 2013 09:06 Salivanth wrote: Why does it have to be either the matchup or the names? Why not both? Some people dislike ZvZ, which reduces the amount of people watching. RorO and Symbol aren't the most popular Zergs, which again reduces the amount of people watching. Not to mention it's WoL, IEM was on, and G-League was on. The finals were pretty good though, with the exception of the mistake that cost Symbol the last game. I was going for RorO, but it was a fairly anticlimactic end to a great finals. good games dont make people watch, pre-game hype does. honestly, roro beating taeja was the worst thing to happen to GOM. TvZ was the premier matchup of WoL, and taeja and symbol are both fan favorites (im an SC2 guy, not a BW guy). and of all the KeSPA players, we would want a bigger name than roro. yes hes an amazing player, but hes hard to hype up. | ||
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Hadley88
Germany267 Posts
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On March 10 2013 09:11 courtpanda wrote: good games dont make people watch, pre-game hype does. honestly, roro beating taeja was the worst thing to happen to GOM. TvZ was the premier matchup of WoL, and taeja and symbol are both fan favorites (im an SC2 guy, not a BW guy). and of all the KeSPA players, we would want a bigger name than roro. yes hes an amazing player, but hes hard to hype up. Maybe Taeja should have played better then. | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
On March 10 2013 09:11 mordk wrote: Bullshit, you're basically saying Roro was the stuff of legend when he was actually nothing special. Roro wasn't a champion either, the champions of BW aren't winning anything yet The article is still wrong and a massive "fuck you" to the SC2 crowd and scene, and should never have been published. Edit: Toned it down just a tiny little bit Glad that a 2 year old article still haunts you, one day you can tell your grandson that you fought against that horrific article. Great way to teach your kids to grow up and move on. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25665 Posts
On March 10 2013 08:33 Ace Frehley wrote: The fact that both Roro and Symbol are not popular didn't help to counterbalance the zvz hate and bitterness about perceived imbalance on zerg. People had to put up with this once with Sniper x Hyun, but at least Hyun had his fight club hype and Sniper had his ladykiller villain aura to hype things a bit. Now symbol and roro had nothing going for them, unfortunately In the end, people preferred to watch zerg get steamrolled at IEM on HotS If the finals were DRG x JD, it'd have been way different Oh god that was cathartic. Anyway, yeah nothing against the two participants. This 'Koreans have no personality' seems to be gaining traction again which is a bit irritating, indeed from what BW vets post occasionally it seems Kespa have very strict rules regarding player conduct. But then, Firebathero I suppose! I just wish more of the Kespa players had a bit more discernible personalities that we can get behind and root for. That or the genuine BW legends start to show their chops, Flash is already looking tasty and despite his rather reserved manner, he has that 'aura' about him. However the likes of Jaedong, Bisu and the names that even us BW noobies are aware of haven't got going yet. I mean these can all develop further as we go along and get exposed to the Kespa players more, Roro unfortunately just is one of those other 'faceless Zergs' at this point for many of us. Rain quickly became a guy I always tried to follow based purely on his really solid play, and I've enjoyed some of the Proleague too, it's interesting as fuck for the scene going forward anyhow! Incidentally, can we stop with this nonsense about the Elephant article and this splitting into camps. Very few posters ever claimed that the Kespa crowd would be crushed under the boot of the ESF players, very few claimed However posts all over the place are smug 'Told you so' responses to claims that the vast majority of people on here never fucking made. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On March 10 2013 09:18 edgeOut wrote: Glad that a 2 year old article still haunt you, one day you can tell your grandson that you fought against that horrific article. Great way to teach your kids to grow up and move on. Bwahahahahaha had a good laugh. What are you even talking about. People cite the article, (or rather, the "elephant" situation), a discussion ensues, I chime in because it's a hot topic, and BAM, I'm a terrible parent What the actual fuck | ||
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how2TL
1197 Posts
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Hier
2391 Posts
On March 10 2013 09:23 mordk wrote: Bwahahahahaha had a good laugh. What are you even talking about. People cite the article, (or rather, the "elephant" situation), a discussion ensues, I chime in because it's a hot topic, and BAM, I'm a terrible parent What the actual fuck The term 'elephants' simply became synonymous with 'KeSPA players', nobody cites the article any more. Just let it go. | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
3830 Posts
 High-level ZvZ is fun to watch imo.... | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
On March 10 2013 09:23 mordk wrote: Bwahahahahaha had a good laugh. What are you even talking about. People cite the article, (or rather, the "elephant" situation), a discussion ensues, I chime in because it's a hot topic, and BAM, I'm a terrible parent What the actual fuck Glad I made you laugh, that's my whole purpose, make people happy, especially after they cried. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On March 10 2013 05:53 Rkie wrote: I feel like it is more of an oversaturation of everything. There is literally always a tournament going on, and it makes each event less impactful. I think it's more a case of a lack of fan favorites and people being tired of seeing ZvZ all the time in every tournament across the world for the last 6 months or so. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
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WoodLeagueAllStar
United States806 Posts
I feel already like the Protoss were bottlenecking Zerg from getting to finals of IEM and if they only nerf Terran they'll kill Terran. Although that would start the Protoss year which is admittedly only fair if they won like 9 months in a row but still. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On March 10 2013 09:30 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: Honestly, this thread had like triple the posts of IEM but it ended way before IEM ended so this thread had way more posts per hour. I am worried Blizzard will overnerf and HotS will be ZvZ all day too. I feel already like the Protoss were bottlenecking Zerg from getting to finals of IEM and if they only nerf Terran they'll kill Terran. Although that would start the Protoss year which is admittedly only fair if they won like 9 months in a row but still. I'd like Zerg to be buffed more than the other 2 races nerfed I think P et T are in a good place together, with Zerg a notch below. I wish Blizzard would make shit more powerful instead of ridiculously weak like in WoL :/ | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
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