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I love MVP so much. I hope he wins everything til the end of time
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On March 09 2013 20:57 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 20:56 Lysanias wrote:On March 09 2013 20:53 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:51 Lysanias wrote:On March 09 2013 20:49 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:48 pmp10 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:40 nomyx wrote:On March 09 2013 20:38 furo wrote:
too bad there was no really good zerg at this tournament (compared to parting/mvp), so its hard to say too much about the balance.
but zerg looks weak in this tournament Luckily MLG has Life and Leenock and Goswser. MLG has a grand total of 2 code S zergs. Until enough of Korean zergs start traveling the game will always end up balanced around foreign ones. Good thing GSL and Proleague exist right? And continuing this theme of being fair. When MLG has Life and Leenock are there any other Zergs they really need? There aren't many that are really better than those two. Ofc it's fair if we get more zergs no matter if you think they are better or not, they now do not get a chance to prove they actualy could beat Life or Leenock etc. My point was more on the line of getting an accurate idea on current balance. With such a big skill disparity between the top Zergs and the LG-IM players in attendance here at IEM it's really hard to get an accurate gauge but with top Zergs like Life and Leenock attending MLG it should be a much better measurement assuming of course that those two have actually been practicing HoTS at all. Considering they were seeded we simply have no idea, so that entire statement has not footholding. We have not seen them play, they might not even come close to the play they had in WoL. It's guess work nothing more. How do we know they are the best ? perhaps looking back at this IEM Violet played alot better ? Silly statement an MLG is not going to judge anything. Next season GSL might. Better measurement doesn't mean it's satisfactory. Personally I'm withholding all balance judgments until the next GSL season myself.
Stop using the word balance, let's just call it the meta game or the current game trend. As it stands at least I believe that the protoss army late game will be incredibly strong and probably hard for zerg to fend off, however if Zerg manages to beat protoss in the early middle game either by killing him or crippling him enough he might still have a chance.
How likely is this or is it harder for protoss to go to the super army than it is for Zerg to punish the protoss or vice versa is yet to be determined.
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King of Wings vs his padawan.
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WHOA just realized that IM swept the top 4... Wow.
Hope first manages to take it over MVP in the finals, but all 4 of these guys are beastly.
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On March 09 2013 20:59 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 20:57 Awesomeness wrote:On March 09 2013 20:53 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:51 Lysanias wrote:On March 09 2013 20:49 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:48 pmp10 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:40 nomyx wrote:On March 09 2013 20:38 furo wrote:
too bad there was no really good zerg at this tournament (compared to parting/mvp), so its hard to say too much about the balance.
but zerg looks weak in this tournament Luckily MLG has Life and Leenock and Goswser. MLG has a grand total of 2 code S zergs. Until enough of Korean zergs start traveling the game will always end up balanced around foreign ones. Good thing GSL and Proleague exist right? And continuing this theme of being fair. When MLG has Life and Leenock are there any other Zergs they really need? There aren't many that are really better than those two. Ofc it's fair if we get more zergs no matter if you think they are better or not, they now do not get a chance to prove they actualy could beat Life or Leenock etc. My point was more on the line of getting an accurate idea on current balance. With such a big skill disparity between the top Zergs and the LG-IM players in attendance here at IEM it's really hard to get an accurate gauge but with top Zergs like Life and Leenock attending MLG it should be a much better measurement assuming of course that those two have actually been practicing HoTS at all. I don't think the skill disparity between all the IM guys and violet/stephano is that big, at least it wasn't in wol. All of the IM guys maybe not. Those 4? Definitely.
Based on what? I don't want to start the stephano discussion for the #240214 time, but how are first/yonghwa/yoda better than violet?
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On March 09 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 20:59 Musicus wrote:On March 09 2013 20:57 Big J wrote:On March 09 2013 20:56 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:49 sparklyresidue wrote:On March 09 2013 20:47 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:46 Big J wrote:On March 09 2013 20:44 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:43 JJH777 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:42 mijagi182 wrote:
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well GOMtv wanted to give him code S seed. He rejected A code s seed doesn't mean you are Code S level. Very few of the players that have gotten seeded have ever even made it past the first round. Yeap, even Stephano. My point is theres no Code S level foreigner zerg atm Stephano has qualified by U&Ds... He is not seeded this season. He achieved Code S by playing. Im not denying that. Read again Very few of the players that have gotten seeded have ever even made it past the first round. But "Code S level" doesn't mean "made it past the first round of Code S", it means "being in the RO32 of Code S". So MaNa is Code S level too? fair enough MaNa is currently in Code S? haha that discussion is so dumb guys, "so MVP is not code S level" ?^^ this can go on forever WELL IS HE CURRENTLY IN CODE S? HUH? weirdest stuff comes up in LR threads
It wouldn't be a LR thread without pointless arguments now would it?
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Mvp doesn't have his wrist bandages on. I wonder if that's a good sign ^^
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I don't get why people bash Rachel.. She's doing a good job and every time i've seen her she has been doing exactly that.
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3-0 Mvp, but I'm ok with Mvp allowing yoda to win.
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On March 09 2013 21:00 Savant.GL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 20:58 EZSkull wrote:On March 09 2013 20:57 Savant.GL wrote:On March 09 2013 20:55 EZSkull wrote:
Someone please teach her how to do an intro... and how to conduct an interview She is doing a good job, it isn't easy to conduct an interview with a translator in between It's actually not too hard if you keep things simple and not go crazy when you state your questions. Well I think she is doing a great job and she keeps getting work so a lot of people agree with me.
I think how she looks might have something to do with that lol
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YoDa has way better mechanics I think, but Mvp is the master of mindgames. YoDa has a good shot, but Mvp is a dangerous nerd.
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On March 09 2013 21:01 Awesomeness wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 20:59 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:57 Awesomeness wrote:On March 09 2013 20:53 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:51 Lysanias wrote:On March 09 2013 20:49 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:48 pmp10 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:40 nomyx wrote:On March 09 2013 20:38 furo wrote:
too bad there was no really good zerg at this tournament (compared to parting/mvp), so its hard to say too much about the balance.
but zerg looks weak in this tournament Luckily MLG has Life and Leenock and Goswser. MLG has a grand total of 2 code S zergs. Until enough of Korean zergs start traveling the game will always end up balanced around foreign ones. Good thing GSL and Proleague exist right? And continuing this theme of being fair. When MLG has Life and Leenock are there any other Zergs they really need? There aren't many that are really better than those two. Ofc it's fair if we get more zergs no matter if you think they are better or not, they now do not get a chance to prove they actualy could beat Life or Leenock etc. My point was more on the line of getting an accurate idea on current balance. With such a big skill disparity between the top Zergs and the LG-IM players in attendance here at IEM it's really hard to get an accurate gauge but with top Zergs like Life and Leenock attending MLG it should be a much better measurement assuming of course that those two have actually been practicing HoTS at all. I don't think the skill disparity between all the IM guys and violet/stephano is that big, at least it wasn't in wol. All of the IM guys maybe not. Those 4? Definitely. Based on what? I don't want to start the stephano discussion for the #240214 time, but how are first/yonghwa/yoda better than violet?
Well elfi can beat Violet in a BO3. Go figure.
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On March 09 2013 21:01 Godwrath wrote:
I won't be surprised if Yoda wins this.
At this point I have no idea who's going to win this tournament. It's a toss up from here. 2 Mirror match ups with all players that have great skill and experience in them and being teammates to boot.
Any of them can win.
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On March 09 2013 21:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:On March 09 2013 20:59 Musicus wrote:On March 09 2013 20:57 Big J wrote:On March 09 2013 20:56 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:49 sparklyresidue wrote:On March 09 2013 20:47 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:46 Big J wrote:On March 09 2013 20:44 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:43 JJH777 wrote:
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A code s seed doesn't mean you are Code S level. Very few of the players that have gotten seeded have ever even made it past the first round. Yeap, even Stephano. My point is theres no Code S level foreigner zerg atm Stephano has qualified by U&Ds... He is not seeded this season. He achieved Code S by playing. Im not denying that. Read again Very few of the players that have gotten seeded have ever even made it past the first round. But "Code S level" doesn't mean "made it past the first round of Code S", it means "being in the RO32 of Code S". So MaNa is Code S level too? fair enough MaNa is currently in Code S? haha that discussion is so dumb guys, "so MVP is not code S level" ?^^ this can go on forever WELL IS HE CURRENTLY IN CODE S? HUH? weirdest stuff comes up in LR threads It wouldn't be a LR thread without pointless arguments now would it?
SUCK IT, ESF FANBOY!
hahaha, yeah, you have a point
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On March 09 2013 21:01 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 20:57 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:56 Lysanias wrote:On March 09 2013 20:53 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:51 Lysanias wrote:On March 09 2013 20:49 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:48 pmp10 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:40 nomyx wrote:On March 09 2013 20:38 furo wrote:
too bad there was no really good zerg at this tournament (compared to parting/mvp), so its hard to say too much about the balance.
but zerg looks weak in this tournament Luckily MLG has Life and Leenock and Goswser. MLG has a grand total of 2 code S zergs. Until enough of Korean zergs start traveling the game will always end up balanced around foreign ones. Good thing GSL and Proleague exist right? And continuing this theme of being fair. When MLG has Life and Leenock are there any other Zergs they really need? There aren't many that are really better than those two. Ofc it's fair if we get more zergs no matter if you think they are better or not, they now do not get a chance to prove they actualy could beat Life or Leenock etc. My point was more on the line of getting an accurate idea on current balance. With such a big skill disparity between the top Zergs and the LG-IM players in attendance here at IEM it's really hard to get an accurate gauge but with top Zergs like Life and Leenock attending MLG it should be a much better measurement assuming of course that those two have actually been practicing HoTS at all. Considering they were seeded we simply have no idea, so that entire statement has not footholding. We have not seen them play, they might not even come close to the play they had in WoL. It's guess work nothing more. How do we know they are the best ? perhaps looking back at this IEM Violet played alot better ? Silly statement an MLG is not going to judge anything. Next season GSL might. Better measurement doesn't mean it's satisfactory. Personally I'm withholding all balance judgments until the next GSL season myself. Stop using the word balance, let's just call it the meta game or the current game trend. As it stands at least I believe that the protoss army late game will be incredibly strong and probably hard for zerg to fend off, however if Zerg manages to beat protoss in the early middle game either by killing him or crippling him enough he might still have a chance. How likely is this or is it harder for protoss to go to the super army than it is for Zerg to punish the protoss or vice versa is yet to be determined.
But balance is so much easier to type.... 
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On March 09 2013 21:02 Kasaraki wrote:
YoDa has way better mechanics I think, but Mvp is the master of mindgames. YoDa has a good shot, but Mvp is a dangerous nerd.
Way better?
Mvp looks quite in shape, I doubt there is a huge disparity in their mechanics right now.
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On March 09 2013 20:59 mijagi182 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 20:57 Big J wrote:On March 09 2013 20:56 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:49 sparklyresidue wrote:On March 09 2013 20:47 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:46 Big J wrote:On March 09 2013 20:44 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:43 JJH777 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:42 mijagi182 wrote:On March 09 2013 20:39 TheDwf wrote:
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Since when is Nerchio Code S level? well GOMtv wanted to give him code S seed. He rejected A code s seed doesn't mean you are Code S level. Very few of the players that have gotten seeded have ever even made it past the first round. Yeap, even Stephano. My point is theres no Code S level foreigner zerg atm Stephano has qualified by U&Ds... He is not seeded this season. He achieved Code S by playing. Im not denying that. Read again Very few of the players that have gotten seeded have ever even made it past the first round. But "Code S level" doesn't mean "made it past the first round of Code S", it means "being in the RO32 of Code S". So MaNa is Code S level too? fair enough MaNa is currently in Code S? MaNa did the same Stephano did, not long ago, both did it in WoL too
If you are in Code S, you must be Code S level currently.
If you are not, you maybe or you may not be Code S level. MaNa is not currently.
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"YoDa is the best player on LG-IM" - Mvp
YoDa 3-0 incoming
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Pretty damn impressive though
LG-IM Mvp 6-0 (Maps: 13-2)
LG-IM YongHwa is 6-0 (Maps: 13-1)
LG-IM Yoda 5-1 (Maps: 12-6) (Losing to LG-IMFirst)
LG-IM First 6-1 (Maps: 14-7) (Losing to Liquid'Ret)
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Is that day9 hots ad available somewhere on the net? Missed a few times already lol
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EPT
