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rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
March 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#2241
Overall i'd say GSL finals was more fun.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#2242
Please make this exciting First!
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
March 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#2243
On March 10 2013 01:19 ACrow wrote:
OK, that looked silly. He had his army in place to intercept the drop, in almost perfect position, and it just speeds by and lives? wtf?

yeah that was pretty messed up.
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#2244
On March 10 2013 01:18 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:07 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.


What imbalances are super obvious from this series? I see First playing like trash.


I'm not talking about this series. I would never make a balance judgement of a single series or game. In the first game First actually played amazing and YoDa botched his drop, however he still fell behind because you can never take your third at the time you'd need it to keep up with the terran eco because you'd be spread out too much and can't defend against teleport medivacs anymore. The problem is that you can't take your third at a reasonable timing anymore.
Zerg has the same problem, but it's even worse. Widow mines mean you can't take your third ever before you have overseers, terran can simply 'outgreed' you. That's not gonna solve itself by waiting but need to be patched.


Well, zergs could 'outgreed' everyone since the Queen patch...
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 16:21:12
March 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#2245
To the people crying imbalance, here are MaNa's thoughts on the series via Twitter:

Yoda plays so amazing, love the way he scans always before walking in with army, never gets caught off with storm. I am amazed. #IEM
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
March 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#2246
these finals are a joke. First is so lackluster + terran drops are too strong now.

Feel like yoda could probably take the series with his eyes closed
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2247
congratz yoda ^^
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2248
First... what the heck was those games.
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Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2249
Since David Kim is at this tournament, Terran will get nerfed hard probably
Fus Ro Dah
Profile Joined January 2013
Singapore141 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2250
I have no idea why First is playing so dreadfully.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2251
On March 10 2013 01:20 theBALLS wrote:
these finals are a joke. First is so lackluster + terran drops are too strong now.

Feel like yoda could probably take the series with his eyes closed


yeah he probably could. If luke can destroy the death star with his eyes closed this should be ezpz
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2252
Is this fixed or something? First has gone full foreigner, and then some.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2253
Yeah first is playing awful
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2254
On March 10 2013 01:20 theBALLS wrote:
these finals are a joke. First is so lackluster + terran drops are too strong now.

Feel like yoda could probably take the series with his eyes closed

alot of the good drops are firsts fault, his units have been out of position and hes been lackluster all series.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2255
On March 10 2013 01:19 Loire wrote:
feels like First wanted Yoda to have a chance at twitter

yay x) haha
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2256
Gosu storm research timing
More GGs, more skill
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
March 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#2257
On March 10 2013 01:21 Arco wrote:
Is this fixed or something? First has gone full foreigner, and then some.

dont start
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 09 2013 16:22 GMT
#2258
Did First forget Storm? This is embarrassing.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 16:22:18
March 09 2013 16:22 GMT
#2259
they should just make afterburners cost 50 energy
the throws never bothered me anyway
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
March 09 2013 16:22 GMT
#2260
After game1 first played awful this series ;-;
@QxGDarkCell ._.
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