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On March 06 2013 20:03 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:01 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  You silly naive.. :D In Mvp we trust! If not this weekend... at some point he will try to go for it! You shouldn't have such high hopes. Regarding mech TvP, you should NEVER have high hopes..
Someone will probably try tank mine vP this week imo.
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On March 06 2013 20:03 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:02 gingerfluffmuff wrote: How did Mana managed to take one game of sting? Proxy 2-gate vs command center first lol And i guess he nearly gave it away foreigner style :D?
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On March 06 2013 20:02 Asha` wrote: Does Nathanias have a medical or technical reason for the headband?
I think it is to keep the crappy headset from falling apart
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On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  Haha that would be awesome. I'm sure he has something new up his sleeve and will once again kill everyone with it...hopefully :D
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On March 06 2013 20:06 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 20:01 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  You silly naive.. :D In Mvp we trust! If not this weekend... at some point he will try to go for it! You shouldn't have such high hopes. Regarding mech TvP, you should NEVER have high hopes.. Someone will probably try tank mine vP this week imo.
Byun got it to work really well at that KOTH didn't he?
Also Goody on his Stream has been demolishing people with mech.
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These maps are horrible
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On March 06 2013 20:06 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 20:01 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  You silly naive.. :D In Mvp we trust! If not this weekend... at some point he will try to go for it! You shouldn't have such high hopes. Regarding mech TvP, you should NEVER have high hopes.. Someone will probably try tank mine vP this week imo.
I saw StC playing this way, 2base with some air support. Did it get popular by the end of beta? I don't think I saw many games regarding this playstyle. More like Hellbat/Thor, but even then, after Hellbat nerf, I saw lots of bio TvPs..
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On March 06 2013 20:04 Savant.GL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:00 Pandemona wrote:On March 06 2013 19:57 Savant.GL wrote: MC core seems like a problem, protoss can push out at a random time with no risk whereas they couldn't do this in the past.
So zerg has to make units at a weird time whereas we used to have to make drones to have a chance of holding off a later push.
So basically protoss gets a free push with no risk that zerg has to respond to and then just lose to a later push So not being able to freely drone for first 10minutes is bad ?  makes for more entertaining games if Zerg have to properly calculate their ability to drone xD and not just make 60dronese in the first 10mins then decide ok i'll make a 100supply roach army now and a move  No this isn't what I am saying, to hold off the immortal-sentry push zerg needs a high drone count, we can't make units at the 8 minute mark and then hold off the later push. It used to be protoss couldn't move across the map randomly so we could make drones and sometimes hold it off. Now protoss can just come to the third and do damage with no risk and then follow up later with a powerful attack that is a lot harder to hold
That's funny. You're the embodiment of the boy that cried wolf.
I actually agree with you that recall is over the top with soul pushes but I cannot take your arguments seriously because you've complained about so much in every single thread you're in. Everything is imba to you, reapers, hellbats, medivacs, msc, etc...
So, how about we watch the games and see what's actually up.
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On March 06 2013 20:05 Savant.GL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:02 Qikz wrote:So zerg has to make units at a weird time whereas we used to have to make drones to have a chance of holding off a later push. You realise those units are not suddenly going to dissapear right? You can use those units to help defend the later push as well. with that philosophy i should just 6 pool everygame as I will have lings to defend any push Don't waste your time answering such comments. It's clearly just trolling at this point.
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On March 06 2013 20:07 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:06 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 20:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 20:01 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  You silly naive.. :D In Mvp we trust! If not this weekend... at some point he will try to go for it! You shouldn't have such high hopes. Regarding mech TvP, you should NEVER have high hopes.. Someone will probably try tank mine vP this week imo. Byun got it to work really well at that KOTH didn't he? Also Goody on his Stream has been demolishing people with mech.
Are there VODs of this KOTH?
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On March 06 2013 20:02 Asha` wrote: Does Nathanias have a medical or technical reason for the headband? :D:D
I hope he does.
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On March 06 2013 20:09 Giriath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:07 Qikz wrote:On March 06 2013 20:06 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 20:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 20:01 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  You silly naive.. :D In Mvp we trust! If not this weekend... at some point he will try to go for it! You shouldn't have such high hopes. Regarding mech TvP, you should NEVER have high hopes.. Someone will probably try tank mine vP this week imo. Byun got it to work really well at that KOTH didn't he? Yeah, I'd like to see them as well.. I have my doubts. Also Goody on his Stream has been demolishing people with mech. Are there VODs of this KOTH?
Yeah, I'd like to see them as well, I have my doubts.
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sting fail it is cross only position
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On March 06 2013 20:08 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:06 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 20:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 20:01 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  You silly naive.. :D In Mvp we trust! If not this weekend... at some point he will try to go for it! You shouldn't have such high hopes. Regarding mech TvP, you should NEVER have high hopes.. Someone will probably try tank mine vP this week imo. I saw StC playing this way, 2base with some air support. Did it get popular by the end of beta? I don't think I saw many games regarding this playstyle. More like Hellbat/Thor, but even then, after Hellbat nerf, I saw lots of bio TvPs..
It got semi popular with koreans. Quicker expansion timings than StC with no air and more mines. Then ghosts later.
re: people talking about the byun game, he used it to spectacular effect but it did involve the P attacking up a choke into 20 tanks and not even trying any air as I recall
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On March 06 2013 20:09 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:05 Savant.GL wrote:On March 06 2013 20:02 Qikz wrote:So zerg has to make units at a weird time whereas we used to have to make drones to have a chance of holding off a later push. You realise those units are not suddenly going to dissapear right? You can use those units to help defend the later push as well. with that philosophy i should just 6 pool everygame as I will have lings to defend any push Don't waste your time answering such comments. It's clearly just trolling at this point.
It isn't trolling. Making units doesn't instantly put you behind. Zerg can make units and drones the quickest out of all the races and as long as you retain your units and don't lose them early, you'll have a slightly bigger army for later on. You can still get the drones and zerg has an inherent drone lead the majority of the game due to how your production works, it's just the drones will come ever so slightly later, but atleast you'll be alive.
Either that or build spine crawlers to hold early pushes. You can move them around and you'll need them for drop defense later on.
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On March 06 2013 20:08 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:04 Savant.GL wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Pandemona wrote:On March 06 2013 19:57 Savant.GL wrote: MC core seems like a problem, protoss can push out at a random time with no risk whereas they couldn't do this in the past.
So zerg has to make units at a weird time whereas we used to have to make drones to have a chance of holding off a later push.
So basically protoss gets a free push with no risk that zerg has to respond to and then just lose to a later push So not being able to freely drone for first 10minutes is bad ?  makes for more entertaining games if Zerg have to properly calculate their ability to drone xD and not just make 60dronese in the first 10mins then decide ok i'll make a 100supply roach army now and a move  No this isn't what I am saying, to hold off the immortal-sentry push zerg needs a high drone count, we can't make units at the 8 minute mark and then hold off the later push. It used to be protoss couldn't move across the map randomly so we could make drones and sometimes hold it off. Now protoss can just come to the third and do damage with no risk and then follow up later with a powerful attack that is a lot harder to hold That's funny. You're the embodiment of the boy that cried wolf. I actually agree with you that recall is over the top with soul pushes but I cannot take your arguments seriously because you've complained about so much in every single thread you're in. Everything is imba to you, reapers, hellbats, medivacs, msc, etc... So, how about we watch the games and see what's actually up.
I am just engaging in a debate about the MSC,my post history is entirely irrelevant to the debate.
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Snute is playing awful, what is wrong with him ?
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On March 06 2013 20:11 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:08 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 20:06 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 20:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 20:01 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 Big J wrote:On March 06 2013 19:59 ES.Genie wrote:On March 06 2013 19:51 LimitSEA wrote:On March 06 2013 19:49 ES.Genie wrote: No IM players to watch. Pretty boring day for me :/ I know how you feel. I guess we were spoilt for IM games yesterday. :< Except I was only able to watch one game of Yoda. Stupid reallife... Atleast we're going to have lots of Mvp tomorrow  Mech TvP incoming  You silly naive.. :D In Mvp we trust! If not this weekend... at some point he will try to go for it! You shouldn't have such high hopes. Regarding mech TvP, you should NEVER have high hopes.. Someone will probably try tank mine vP this week imo. I saw StC playing this way, 2base with some air support. Did it get popular by the end of beta? I don't think I saw many games regarding this playstyle. More like Hellbat/Thor, but even then, after Hellbat nerf, I saw lots of bio TvPs.. It got semi popular with koreans. Quicker expansion timings than StC with no air and more mines. Then ghosts later. re: people talking about the byun game, he used it to spectacular effect but it did involve the P attacking up a choke into 20 tanks and not even trying any air as I recall
Yeah, there it goes with my doubts. I knew there is something wrong when someone abosolutely crushes Protoss with mech. :D
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On March 06 2013 20:12 Ryps wrote: Snute is playing awful, what is wrong with him ?
playing gasless 3 hatch is bad vs gate nexus expand in wol, in hots it just seems suicidal
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On March 06 2013 20:12 Savant.GL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 20:08 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 06 2013 20:04 Savant.GL wrote:On March 06 2013 20:00 Pandemona wrote:On March 06 2013 19:57 Savant.GL wrote: MC core seems like a problem, protoss can push out at a random time with no risk whereas they couldn't do this in the past.
So zerg has to make units at a weird time whereas we used to have to make drones to have a chance of holding off a later push.
So basically protoss gets a free push with no risk that zerg has to respond to and then just lose to a later push So not being able to freely drone for first 10minutes is bad ?  makes for more entertaining games if Zerg have to properly calculate their ability to drone xD and not just make 60dronese in the first 10mins then decide ok i'll make a 100supply roach army now and a move  No this isn't what I am saying, to hold off the immortal-sentry push zerg needs a high drone count, we can't make units at the 8 minute mark and then hold off the later push. It used to be protoss couldn't move across the map randomly so we could make drones and sometimes hold it off. Now protoss can just come to the third and do damage with no risk and then follow up later with a powerful attack that is a lot harder to hold That's funny. You're the embodiment of the boy that cried wolf. I actually agree with you that recall is over the top with soul pushes but I cannot take your arguments seriously because you've complained about so much in every single thread you're in. Everything is imba to you, reapers, hellbats, medivacs, msc, etc... So, how about we watch the games and see what's actually up. I am just engaging in a debate about the MSC,my post history is entirely irrelevant to the debate.
Engage as much as you want. The comment serves as a friendly warning to those engaging with you.
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