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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 01 2013 11:04 GMT
#1321
Why have i been watching this TvZ, when at the same time SSL was up.. T.T
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
March 01 2013 11:04 GMT
#1322
On March 01 2013 20:00 negativedge wrote:
The dumb part is people are complaining about ZERG IMBA when this series was almost all old fashioned ZvT from Roro. There was no infestor/brood/spine turtling at all. Roro outplayed Taeja. He played a smart, tough, skillfull series, and he's no fluke. He's the best kespa zerg. Get over yourselves.

And, of course, at no point int he HISTORY OF THE GSL were Zergs every as dominant as Terrans were for the SIX MONTHS of GomTvT that everyone conveniently forgets about


whats old fashioned about 10 queens, infinite map control, creep at terrans base at 13min, 4 hatch at 10 min, constantly 60 larva at the zergs disposal? Anyways, Roro is obviously extremely good so grats to him but im afraid the winner of this GSL wont get the full cred he might deserve.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 01 2013 11:04 GMT
#1323
On March 01 2013 20:02 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:01 Snusmumriken wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:59 Wertheron wrote:
OOOOOOOH. Stop it terrans, you were the race the most imba during one year and a half and we had a plenty of TvT finals (and no, it's not better than ZvZ).


The difference is that you expect a game to actually get MORE balanced after 3 years than it was in the beginning. When you end up with this, suffice to say someone bungled at the job.


or people are just butt hurt cause taeja, who everyone(~70%) wanted to see win; now we cry imba...as LR threads usually go


To address your main point, the main reason people wanted taeja to win was to avoid the 1000th anniversary edition of a ZvZ finals in the last year of wol :D
spacemonkeyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia477 Posts
March 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1324
I don't even want to imagine how terribad protoss would look without MC. At least terran and zerg had long stays on the throne. Protoss managed to get the odd snipe by inventing some obscure all in/timing- gets figured out in a few weeks then back to be a sad zealot.
Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
March 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1325
On March 01 2013 20:03 braller wrote:
BL/Infestor affects even the matches that you don't see it in, because it dramatically narrows the range of strategies Terran can use. And of course the absurd power of queens was on direct display in this series,


So even though he never used BL infestor, it still had a dramatic effect on the matchup?...I'm curious what brilliant strategies exist that terran can't do because of BL infestor, which terran can scout anyway.

Savant
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1326
On March 01 2013 20:03 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:01 Zealously wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:59 Snusmumriken wrote:
"youre still gonna watch the finals". No Tastosis, I most certainly am not.



Okay


sure you won't, last WOL Finals; if anything you're going to watch it to see roro lose. If someone wasn't going to watch the finals, they wouldn't post it hoping to get attention.


lol... I said I'm not going to, and I'll check TL and hope Roro lost, but I'm certainly not spending time watching it
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
March 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1327
On March 01 2013 20:03 EZSkull wrote:
I honestly wanna write down the people saying they won't watch the finals, just to see if they post during the game in the thread lol


get my name on that list mate
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1328
kespa in the finals.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1329
On March 01 2013 20:00 negativedge wrote:
The dumb part is people are complaining about ZERG IMBA when this series was almost all old fashioned ZvT from Roro. There was no infestor/brood/spine turtling at all. Roro outplayed Taeja. He played a smart, tough, skillfull series, and he's no fluke. He's the best kespa zerg. Get over yourselves.


The sad thing is, if DRG or Life had done this exact same thing, I bet you this thread would be full of "DRGs just on a different level from Taeja" or "Life is simply invincible right now." But because Roro's so unknown, it somehow has to be because zerg is an imbalanced race.

It sucks that there are no longer constructive criticism of the game these days, because there's only whinning for the sake of whining.
Meh
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:06:35
March 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1330
Everyone cry on imba but lot of personn predict that he couldn't win, he was the challenger (healthy problem and Roro is strong at the moment). And sorry, but when Roro baneling bust on 2 base a greedy Taeja i don't see something imba here.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 01 2013 11:06 GMT
#1331
On March 01 2013 20:00 negativedge wrote:
The dumb part is people are complaining about ZERG IMBA when this series was almost all old fashioned ZvT from Roro. There was no infestor/brood/spine turtling at all. Roro outplayed Taeja. He played a smart, tough, skillfull series, and he's no fluke. He's the best kespa zerg. Get over yourselves.

And, of course, at no point int he HISTORY OF THE GSL were Zergs every as dominant as Terrans were for the SIX MONTHS of GomTvT that everyone conveniently forgets about


The biggest buff to Zerg is its near impossible to hurt Zerg early game. Faster overlords, six range stalkeresque queens...
Queen buff is ridiculous. Pop out 4-6 and hellions, banshees, early game few units of rines can't pressure.

Man, at the highest level I'd even prefer the Zerg to be stronger with infestors and weaken the queens so at least Terran has a chance at slowing Zerg macro down. End game a concentrated Zerg army is always going to destroy a T-ball anyday eitherway.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 01 2013 11:06 GMT
#1332
On March 01 2013 20:03 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:01 liberate71 wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:59 Maesy wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:58 Jankisa wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:54 TheDwf wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:53 Jankisa wrote:
That put aside, RorO was definetlly the better player here, he played amazingly, best creep spread I have seen this expansion, flawless macro and great harass.

Is this a joke?


If you have a replay or a vod for me to see where zerg spread creep this well against this good of an opponent I'd be happy to watch it.


Scarlett vs Ryung and getting it into his 3rd base (While Ryung was in the Ro4 of Code S at that same venue days later)

Come back later and try again.


Ive never seen creep spread quite as insane as Roro was on Daybreak and Cloud kingdom... but I havent seen those Scarlett' games.


This isn't the exact game but this is pretty precise on how the map looked.

[image loading]


hahahaha gross
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 01 2013 11:06 GMT
#1333
On March 01 2013 20:05 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:03 Sc2Null wrote:
On March 01 2013 20:01 Zealously wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:59 Snusmumriken wrote:
"youre still gonna watch the finals". No Tastosis, I most certainly am not.



Okay


sure you won't, last WOL Finals; if anything you're going to watch it to see roro lose. If someone wasn't going to watch the finals, they wouldn't post it hoping to get attention.


lol... I said I'm not going to, and I'll check TL and hope Roro lost, but I'm certainly not spending time watching it

looking forward to your posts in the thread for the finals.

honestly, i'm not nearly as hyped for them as i would be if taeja won either, but come on guys. all the hardcore sc2 fans are gonna be watching. if you have 3k posts on here, you're gonna be watching the finals (unless you're at work or something at the time).
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Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
March 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#1334
On March 01 2013 20:05 Wertheron wrote:
Everyone cry on imba but lot of personn predict that he couldn't win, he was the challenger (healthy problem and Roro is strong at the moment). And sorry, but when Roro baneling bust on 2 base a greedy Taeja i don't see something imba here.


Nobody said it was imba. People said it was a coin flip, and that coin flip obviously paid off.
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
March 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#1335
On March 01 2013 20:04 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:02 Sc2Null wrote:
On March 01 2013 20:01 Snusmumriken wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:59 Wertheron wrote:
OOOOOOOH. Stop it terrans, you were the race the most imba during one year and a half and we had a plenty of TvT finals (and no, it's not better than ZvZ).


The difference is that you expect a game to actually get MORE balanced after 3 years than it was in the beginning. When you end up with this, suffice to say someone bungled at the job.


or people are just butt hurt cause taeja, who everyone(~70%) wanted to see win; now we cry imba...as LR threads usually go


To address your main point, the main reason people wanted taeja to win was to avoid the 1000th anniversary edition of a ZvZ finals in the last year of wol :D


3 ZvZ GSL finals counting this one. 5 TvT finals.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#1336
Roro kicked Taeja's ass. Taeja got to the semifinals with some luck, placing 2nd in both group stages and then hanging on to beat Soulkey 3-2. Roro is the better player in this tournament. He is worthy of being a GSL champion.

But fuck ZvZ.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
March 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#1337
On March 01 2013 19:50 Maesy wrote:
I hope Roro somehow loses for the manner hatcheries.


Compared to Taeja doing manner mules several times against SoulKey? (Okay most Terrans do that.)
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#1338
On March 01 2013 20:04 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:00 negativedge wrote:
The dumb part is people are complaining about ZERG IMBA when this series was almost all old fashioned ZvT from Roro. There was no infestor/brood/spine turtling at all. Roro outplayed Taeja. He played a smart, tough, skillfull series, and he's no fluke. He's the best kespa zerg. Get over yourselves.

And, of course, at no point int he HISTORY OF THE GSL were Zergs every as dominant as Terrans were for the SIX MONTHS of GomTvT that everyone conveniently forgets about


whats old fashioned about 10 queens, infinite map control, creep at terrans base at 13min, 4 hatch at 10 min, constantly 60 larva at the zergs disposal? Anyways, Roro is obviously extremely good so grats to him but im afraid the winner of this GSL wont get the full cred he might deserve.


*Roro destroys Taeja's 3rd with constant ling runbys preventing hellions from denying creep, delays terran push timing and economy*

Whiners: Zerg imba!!!
Meh
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 01 2013 11:08 GMT
#1339
Poll: Are you going to watch the finals?

ZvZZZZZZZ (49)
 
58%

Hell yea (26)
 
31%

Maybe, I'll see how things go (9)
 
11%

84 total votes

Your vote: Are you going to watch the finals?

(Vote): ZvZZZZZZZ
(Vote): Maybe, I'll see how things go
(Vote): Hell yea

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
March 01 2013 11:08 GMT
#1340
I'd just like to say that the main reason for the Terran domination in 2011 was that the game wasn't as well figured out yet. As more time passes, the bigger lead Zerg gets because it has such an advantageous race design (larvae, creep spread, single tech structures). The infestor buff was a too powerful for the role it was meant to have, leading to its subsequent nerf.
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