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Peacecrafts
Profile Joined October 2012
45 Posts
February 24 2013 10:05 GMT
#561
dunkin donuts should sponsor LG-IM
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 24 2013 10:05 GMT
#562
On February 24 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On February 24 2013 19:00 Schelim wrote:
anyone know when the finals start tomorrow?

18:10 KST. Normal starting time for GSL

awesome, thanks.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
February 24 2013 10:06 GMT
#563
On February 24 2013 19:04 Dodgin wrote:
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On February 24 2013 19:03 Miragee wrote:
Lol, the left caster looks like FireBatHero. o.O


It is FBH.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371695


O.o Thanks!
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3319 Posts
February 24 2013 10:06 GMT
#564
On February 24 2013 19:04 ALPINA wrote:
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On February 24 2013 19:02 pmp10 wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:01 ALPINA wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:59 Herect wrote:
Yeah, terran OP.

Since Hellbat patch, just MMA won against a Zerg. And it was a heroic win. =/


Actually recent patch buffed hellbats lol

Massively delaying the timing in not a buff despite small upgrade scaling change.


You mean delaying ridiculous hellion contain into hellbat all-in? You can still build hellbats as always with armory, and now they even do more dps.

You mean that contain that even zerg pros are saying doesn't happen?
And yes - you can build them but much later and with the design requiring early aggression that's kinda important.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
February 24 2013 10:06 GMT
#565
On February 24 2013 19:01 BigFan wrote:
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On February 24 2013 18:57 Asha` wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:56 BigFan wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:47 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
I'm really suprised every terran is going bio in TvZ so far

probably since it was the standard in both BW and WoL, at least that's my guess. Pretty much GG or very close to it.


or because they think it's better vs competent opponents.

Jjakji played plenty of Mech v Z in WoL

did he? I mostly remember his GSL finals against Leenock and I think that was mostly bio but I haven't seen much of his matches otherwise but if mech is supposed to be stronger, maybe it would've been a better idea? I dunno though.


He played it pretty regularly towards the end of WoL. You can pretty much bet that every pro has experimented with every style of play tbh. Even a die hard bio player like Polt has ground out mech builds on his stream even if he doesn't use them.

Whether mech is supposed to be stronger or not is pretty hard to answer. I certainly don't think Zerg got worse at dealing with the mech cores, and after the hellbat cargo space nerf it may be that T players feel bio offers a much better capability to be able to actually pressure the Zerg while still handling the mid game tech choices. We'll see what happens in the next month, it's an exciting time =)
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
February 24 2013 10:07 GMT
#566
GG NSH. Good run.
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 24 2013 10:07 GMT
#567
On February 24 2013 19:05 Tachion wrote:
LG-IM needs to find some Bo15 tournament league format so they can actually put their huge team depth to it's full use.


Heh. or they can be like LoL and have an A and B team.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 24 2013 10:07 GMT
#568
Can someone else make the thread for the finals tomorrow? Not 100% sure if I'll be able to watch it live.
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
February 24 2013 10:08 GMT
#569
On February 24 2013 19:05 Nebuchad wrote:
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On February 24 2013 19:02 iky43210 wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:59 Lysanias wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:56 iky43210 wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:51 Dodgin wrote:
woah infestors in a non zvz

still very good units.

Also I find it funny how alot of zerg pros are complaining about terran and protoss on STOG and stream, then zerg proceed to all kills in GSTL almost twice


Yeah what are all those pro's opinions compared to an real expert as yours.

OT: grats to Byul and MC, and ofc IM.

Most of those "pros" opinions are laughable. They have invested too much into their race to be able to properly see things without bias. Take what they say with grain of salt


You're right about this but you make it sound as if the audience is going to have less bias, which I find amusing.

Everyone is biased, deal with it. Even reality is biased (because of the number of great zergs still gunning for WoL championships as opposed to terran and protoss, blablabla)


Then isn't the best way is to just shut up and admit that no one knows which race is imbalanced? At this point of the game, anyone's opinions including the "pros" hold little weight.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
February 24 2013 10:08 GMT
#570
On February 24 2013 19:06 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 19:04 Dodgin wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:03 Miragee wrote:
Lol, the left caster looks like FireBatHero. o.O


It is FBH.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371695


O.o Thanks!

IMO he should come out and show MC who's boss.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 24 2013 10:08 GMT
#571
D'aw MVP is merciful enough to go over and bow to NSHS
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
February 24 2013 10:09 GMT
#572
On February 24 2013 19:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
D'aw MVP is merciful enough to go over and bow to NSHS


I know right!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 24 2013 10:10 GMT
#573
On February 24 2013 19:05 Tachion wrote:
LG-IM needs to find some Bo15 tournament league format so they can actually put their huge team depth to it's full use.

PL format would help there i guess
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 24 2013 10:12 GMT
#574
On February 24 2013 19:08 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 19:05 Nebuchad wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:02 iky43210 wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:59 Lysanias wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:56 iky43210 wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:51 Dodgin wrote:
woah infestors in a non zvz

still very good units.

Also I find it funny how alot of zerg pros are complaining about terran and protoss on STOG and stream, then zerg proceed to all kills in GSTL almost twice


Yeah what are all those pro's opinions compared to an real expert as yours.

OT: grats to Byul and MC, and ofc IM.

Most of those "pros" opinions are laughable. They have invested too much into their race to be able to properly see things without bias. Take what they say with grain of salt


You're right about this but you make it sound as if the audience is going to have less bias, which I find amusing.

Everyone is biased, deal with it. Even reality is biased (because of the number of great zergs still gunning for WoL championships as opposed to terran and protoss, blablabla)


Then isn't the best way is to just shut up and admit that no one knows which race is imbalanced? At this point of the game, anyone's opinions including the "pros" hold little weight.


Yes, but from Blizzard's post explaining the nerfs. Hellbat in early game TvZ was THE most troubling issue and had to be dealt with right away. But after the nerf, terrans aren't even making hellbats much in TvZ. Nerfs should make something less useful, it shouldn't make it so the unit NOT useful.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 24 2013 10:13 GMT
#575
On February 24 2013 19:10 opterown wrote:
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On February 24 2013 19:05 Tachion wrote:
LG-IM needs to find some Bo15 tournament league format so they can actually put their huge team depth to it's full use.

PL format would help there i guess

Well can't do any worse than EG-TL HUE HUE HUE.
Glorious SEA doto
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
February 24 2013 10:14 GMT
#576
On February 24 2013 19:13 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 19:10 opterown wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:05 Tachion wrote:
LG-IM needs to find some Bo15 tournament league format so they can actually put their huge team depth to it's full use.

PL format would help there i guess

Well can't do any worse than EG-TL HUE HUE HUE.


Historically wise, they are a lot stronger than EG-TL
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 24 2013 10:16 GMT
#577
On February 24 2013 19:06 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 19:04 ALPINA wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:02 pmp10 wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:01 ALPINA wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:59 Herect wrote:
Yeah, terran OP.

Since Hellbat patch, just MMA won against a Zerg. And it was a heroic win. =/


Actually recent patch buffed hellbats lol

Massively delaying the timing in not a buff despite small upgrade scaling change.


You mean delaying ridiculous hellion contain into hellbat all-in? You can still build hellbats as always with armory, and now they even do more dps.

You mean that contain that even zerg pros are saying doesn't happen?
And yes - you can build them but much later and with the design requiring early aggression that's kinda important.


Not sure what you are saying here.

Many zergs (pros as well) were losing to hellbat pushes and hence blizzard nerfed the timing and buffed the damage (lol). How can anyone complain about hellbat being weak is beyond me.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 24 2013 10:17 GMT
#578
On February 24 2013 19:05 Tachion wrote:
LG-IM needs to find some Bo15 tournament league format so they can actually put their huge team depth to it's full use.

It wouldn't even be enough actually. There are 14 players in the team who can participate + MC. They could afford a BO29 ^^
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12172 Posts
February 24 2013 10:18 GMT
#579
On February 24 2013 19:12 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 19:08 kheldorin wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:05 Nebuchad wrote:
On February 24 2013 19:02 iky43210 wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:59 Lysanias wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:56 iky43210 wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:51 Dodgin wrote:
woah infestors in a non zvz

still very good units.

Also I find it funny how alot of zerg pros are complaining about terran and protoss on STOG and stream, then zerg proceed to all kills in GSTL almost twice


Yeah what are all those pro's opinions compared to an real expert as yours.

OT: grats to Byul and MC, and ofc IM.

Most of those "pros" opinions are laughable. They have invested too much into their race to be able to properly see things without bias. Take what they say with grain of salt


You're right about this but you make it sound as if the audience is going to have less bias, which I find amusing.

Everyone is biased, deal with it. Even reality is biased (because of the number of great zergs still gunning for WoL championships as opposed to terran and protoss, blablabla)


Then isn't the best way is to just shut up and admit that no one knows which race is imbalanced? At this point of the game, anyone's opinions including the "pros" hold little weight.


Yes, but from Blizzard's post explaining the nerfs. Hellbat in early game TvZ was THE most troubling issue and had to be dealt with right away. But after the nerf, terrans aren't even making hellbats much in TvZ. Nerfs should make something less useful, it shouldn't make it so the unit NOT useful.


Given terran's history (ghost in TvP for example =) ) I wouldn't say for sure that hellbats are completely useless now just because they haven't been used for a few games. Given how many lings Byul made I'm pretty sure hellbats could have helped jjakji in this game, maybe I'm wrong but I would have liked to see it for myself.
No will to live, no wish to die
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 24 2013 10:19 GMT
#580
Siege tank doesn't have a bright future in this match-up :[
Terran & Potato Salad.
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