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On February 12 2013 19:26 goldspoon wrote: 14:00 supply is 170(fantasy) vs 114(zenio) both having a ~1500mineral bank...with no severe economical damage done to either side prior to that...I mean how can you better define "outclassed" than that?
clearly players from different leagues
zenio was clearly nervous/caught offguard, he misreacted a lot, no need to bash on the guy
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I wouldn't be surprised if Zenio takes the next two games just because Fantasy's Marine micro vs banes/infestors is so terrible. But god Zenio is bad.... I really hope Fantasy can clean up.
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On February 12 2013 19:25 Greenei wrote: jesus crist. zenio played like a diamond leadue player... No, he played like a high GM. It's just players of Fantasy's caliber can make lesser opponents look terrible. Remember Fantasy vs Nestea from ages ago (maybe OSL?)? That game made Nestea look like a massive scrub.
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On February 12 2013 19:26 Topdoller wrote: Without Infestors Zerg is a joke race, what was Zenio thinking he could skip them and go straight to Hive tech? TRUE (or is he princess lol) disagrees.
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On February 12 2013 19:26 Topdoller wrote: Without Infestors Zerg is a joke race, what was Zenio thinking he could skip them and go straight to Hive tech?
Because we don't consistently see zergs do well with ling/bling/muta vs terran from much better zergs : /
(pro tip: that was sarcasm)
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On February 12 2013 19:25 Testuser wrote: How in the hells did Zenio get so far behind? Did I completely miss something?
He went 15 pool.
It's a bad response because, in larger numbers, slowlings are bad against marines. A 15 pool response to 2 rax means that you have to make a lot of lings (earlier lings is the only advantage of 15 pool), since you can't make spine crawlers (no creep).
So in the beginning, it's nice to get 6-10 lings to hold off the first few marines. After a while, you just need soooo many lings to defend. Imo it's better to just go 15h14p and use drones in the beginning while getting a spine.
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On February 12 2013 19:26 goldspoon wrote: 14:00 supply is 170(fantasy) vs 114(zenio) both having a ~1500mineral bank...with no severe economical damage done to either side prior to that...I mean how can you better define "outclassed" than that?
clearly players from different leagues This looked like fire versus bush league lol.
Hope zenio can put up a fight, I just feel bad for him at this point...
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On February 12 2013 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL S1 2013 Code A Ro48  FanTaSy vs  Zenio Game 2 (1-0) Map: Daybreak 0:00  FanTaSy spawns in the bottom left  Zenio spawns in the top right 2:00 Hatch first for Zenio CC first on the high ground for Fantasy drone scout sees the CC first rax from Fantasy to complete the wall off pool for Zenio
3:00 gas for Fantasy
4:00 Factory for Fantasy Reactor for Fantasy
5:00 Fantasy lands his natural OC 3rd CC in the main for Fantasy double gas for Zenio reactored hellion production started for Fantasy tech lab for Fantasy
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On February 12 2013 19:29 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 19:25 Testuser wrote: How in the hells did Zenio get so far behind? Did I completely miss something? He went 15 pool. It's a bad response because, in larger numbers, slowlings are bad against marines. A 15 pool response to 2 rax means that you have to make a lot of lings (earlier lings is the only advantage of 15 pool), since you can't make spine crawlers (no creep). So in the beginning, it's nice to get 6-10 lings to hold off the first few marines. After a while, you just need soooo many lings to defend. Imo it's better to just go 15h14p and use drones in the beginning while getting a spine. Ah, didn't catch the opening, thanks. Weird that he didn't get some damage done then ...
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Hehe hellion runbys, they just never work
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On February 12 2013 19:28 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 19:25 Greenei wrote: jesus crist. zenio played like a diamond leadue player... No, he played like a high GM. It's just players of Fantasy's caliber can make lesser opponents look terrible.
Yeah, that's not something I gathered from watching the up&down... Fantasy isn't nearly godlike enough in SC2 that you can make broodwar statements like this one. But yeah, "people like you when you win", I know...
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On February 12 2013 19:31 Talack wrote:Hehe hellion runbys, they just never work  you sure?^^
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sometimes i ask to myself, why i bet on zenio on liquibet
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On February 12 2013 19:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL S1 2013 Code A Ro48  FanTaSy vs  Zenio Game 2 (1-0) Map: Daybreak 0:00  FanTaSy spawns in the bottom left  Zenio spawns in the top right 2:00 Hatch first for Zenio CC first on the high ground for Fantasy drone scout sees the CC first rax from Fantasy to complete the wall off pool for Zenio 3:00 gas for Fantasy 4:00 Factory for Fantasy Reactor for Fantasy 5:00 Fantasy lands his natural OC 3rd CC in the main for Fantasy double gas for Zenio reactored hellion production started for Fantasy tech lab for Fantasy 6:00 roach warren for Zenio stim research started for Fantasy 2 more gas for Zenio Lair for Zenio
7:00 3rd gas for Fantasy 3rd base for Zenio Roaches started for Zenio Hellions drive into the main of Zenio and scout the Lair morphing Marauder production started for Fantasy the hellions are cleaned up after 4 drones die
8:00 2 more hellions drive into the natural of Zenio double ebay for Fantasy siege tank production and siege mode research started for Fantasy 1-1 roach upgrades started for Zenio 9 drones were killed Roach speed on the way for Zenio
9:00 2 more rax for Fantasy +1 attack started for Fantasy Fantasy floats out his 3rd OC ling speed for Zenio Spire for Zenio
10:00 +1 armor started for Fantasy starport for fantasy another gas for Fantasy roach attack at the 3rd of Fantasy pause from observer
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Oh man what an annoying time for a pause for Fantasy :/
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On February 12 2013 19:34 Qikz wrote: Oh man what an annoying time for a pause for Fantasy :/ what an annoying time for a keyboard to die for Zenio lol
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when does fantasy ever go bio?
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On February 12 2013 19:34 Qikz wrote: Oh man what an annoying time for a pause for Fantasy :/ What a shitty situation for zenio. He lost and killed less than he would have otherwise.
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