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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 12 2013 10:27 GMT
#601
On February 12 2013 19:26 goldspoon wrote:
14:00 supply is 170(fantasy) vs 114(zenio) both having a ~1500mineral bank...with no severe economical damage done to either side prior to that...I mean how can you better define "outclassed" than that?

clearly players from different leagues


zenio was clearly nervous/caught offguard, he misreacted a lot, no need to bash on the guy
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
February 12 2013 10:27 GMT
#602
I wouldn't be surprised if Zenio takes the next two games just because Fantasy's Marine micro vs banes/infestors is so terrible. But god Zenio is bad.... I really hope Fantasy can clean up.
Julyzerg ftw
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 10:29:40
February 12 2013 10:28 GMT
#603
On February 12 2013 19:25 Greenei wrote:
jesus crist. zenio played like a diamond leadue player...

No, he played like a high GM. It's just players of Fantasy's caliber can make lesser opponents look terrible. Remember Fantasy vs Nestea from ages ago (maybe OSL?)? That game made Nestea look like a massive scrub.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
February 12 2013 10:28 GMT
#604
Fantasy <3

One more game!
Flash | Mvp
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
February 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#605
On February 12 2013 19:26 Topdoller wrote:
Without Infestors Zerg is a joke race, what was Zenio thinking he could skip them and go straight to Hive tech?

TRUE (or is he princess lol) disagrees.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#606
Hope Zenio can win this.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#607
On February 12 2013 19:26 Topdoller wrote:
Without Infestors Zerg is a joke race, what was Zenio thinking he could skip them and go straight to Hive tech?


Because we don't consistently see zergs do well with ling/bling/muta vs terran from much better zergs : /

(pro tip: that was sarcasm)
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#608
On February 12 2013 19:25 Testuser wrote:
How in the hells did Zenio get so far behind? Did I completely miss something?


He went 15 pool.

It's a bad response because, in larger numbers, slowlings are bad against marines. A 15 pool response to 2 rax means that you have to make a lot of lings (earlier lings is the only advantage of 15 pool), since you can't make spine crawlers (no creep).

So in the beginning, it's nice to get 6-10 lings to hold off the first few marines. After a while, you just need soooo many lings to defend. Imo it's better to just go 15h14p and use drones in the beginning while getting a spine.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
February 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#609
On February 12 2013 19:26 goldspoon wrote:
14:00 supply is 170(fantasy) vs 114(zenio) both having a ~1500mineral bank...with no severe economical damage done to either side prior to that...I mean how can you better define "outclassed" than that?

clearly players from different leagues

This looked like fire versus bush league lol.

Hope zenio can put up a fight, I just feel bad for him at this point...
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 12 2013 10:30 GMT
#610
On February 12 2013 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code A Ro48
FanTaSy vs Zenio
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Daybreak

0:00
FanTaSy spawns in the bottom left
Zenio spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatch first for Zenio
CC first on the high ground for Fantasy
drone scout sees the CC first
rax from Fantasy to complete the wall off
pool for Zenio

3:00
gas for Fantasy

4:00
Factory for Fantasy
Reactor for Fantasy

5:00
Fantasy lands his natural OC
3rd CC in the main for Fantasy
double gas for Zenio
reactored hellion production started for Fantasy
tech lab for Fantasy
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
February 12 2013 10:31 GMT
#611
On February 12 2013 19:29 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 19:25 Testuser wrote:
How in the hells did Zenio get so far behind? Did I completely miss something?


He went 15 pool.

It's a bad response because, in larger numbers, slowlings are bad against marines. A 15 pool response to 2 rax means that you have to make a lot of lings (earlier lings is the only advantage of 15 pool), since you can't make spine crawlers (no creep).

So in the beginning, it's nice to get 6-10 lings to hold off the first few marines. After a while, you just need soooo many lings to defend. Imo it's better to just go 15h14p and use drones in the beginning while getting a spine.

Ah, didn't catch the opening, thanks. Weird that he didn't get some damage done then ...
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 12 2013 10:31 GMT
#612
Hehe hellion runbys, they just never work
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12267 Posts
February 12 2013 10:31 GMT
#613
On February 12 2013 19:28 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 19:25 Greenei wrote:
jesus crist. zenio played like a diamond leadue player...

No, he played like a high GM. It's just players of Fantasy's caliber can make lesser opponents look terrible.


Yeah, that's not something I gathered from watching the up&down... Fantasy isn't nearly godlike enough in SC2 that you can make broodwar statements like this one. But yeah, "people like you when you win", I know...
No will to live, no wish to die
fishb00n
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany607 Posts
February 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#614
On February 12 2013 19:31 Talack wrote:
Hehe hellion runbys, they just never work

you sure?^^
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
February 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#615
sometimes i ask to myself, why i bet on zenio on liquibet
Have a nice day!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#616
On February 12 2013 19:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code A Ro48
FanTaSy vs Zenio
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Daybreak

0:00
FanTaSy spawns in the bottom left
Zenio spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatch first for Zenio
CC first on the high ground for Fantasy
drone scout sees the CC first
rax from Fantasy to complete the wall off
pool for Zenio

3:00
gas for Fantasy

4:00
Factory for Fantasy
Reactor for Fantasy

5:00
Fantasy lands his natural OC
3rd CC in the main for Fantasy
double gas for Zenio
reactored hellion production started for Fantasy
tech lab for Fantasy

6:00
roach warren for Zenio
stim research started for Fantasy
2 more gas for Zenio
Lair for Zenio

7:00
3rd gas for Fantasy
3rd base for Zenio
Roaches started for Zenio
Hellions drive into the main of Zenio and scout the Lair morphing
Marauder production started for Fantasy
the hellions are cleaned up after 4 drones die

8:00
2 more hellions drive into the natural of Zenio
double ebay for Fantasy
siege tank production and siege mode research started for Fantasy
1-1 roach upgrades started for Zenio
9 drones were killed
Roach speed on the way for Zenio

9:00
2 more rax for Fantasy
+1 attack started for Fantasy
Fantasy floats out his 3rd OC
ling speed for Zenio
Spire for Zenio

10:00
+1 armor started for Fantasy
starport for fantasy
another gas for Fantasy
roach attack at the 3rd of Fantasy
pause from observer
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 12 2013 10:34 GMT
#617
Oh man what an annoying time for a pause for Fantasy :/
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17678 Posts
February 12 2013 10:34 GMT
#618
On February 12 2013 19:34 Qikz wrote:
Oh man what an annoying time for a pause for Fantasy :/

what an annoying time for a keyboard to die for Zenio lol
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
February 12 2013 10:34 GMT
#619
when does fantasy ever go bio?
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
February 12 2013 10:35 GMT
#620
On February 12 2013 19:34 Qikz wrote:
Oh man what an annoying time for a pause for Fantasy :/

What a shitty situation for zenio. He lost and killed less than he would have otherwise.
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