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On February 08 2013 22:36 Destroyr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:33 Alpina wrote:On February 08 2013 22:31 Destroyr wrote:
This is heart breaking. I hate myself for choosing Zerg 2 years ago. This game is so hard v. Z. It looks terrible and all the time I am cheering for that one guy that might kill some Zergs. Really this gameplay makes hate all this players you once liked. On top of that it dosn't mean anything because guess what the next GREAT release by DB and DK is on the way :'( Why so many tears? It's not like squirtle or mkp played perfectly today. Hehe you realise that you can't play perfect versus macro machine zerg? You can survive mindgames and cheese (if you scout it DAMN squirtle) but it is so hard to beat zergs in a normal game. There are so many reasons why the players should advance and Zergs should not. The bigest is - well as a zerg you don't have to do all that much to play good and don't make mistakes. You see the whole map, you can move around on it, you can expand and be gready as fuck - the only thing you need is to spread creep and macro it's so much easier to play zerg.
Lol, as if forcefielding on 3 bases, building a stupidly strong deathball and amoving was hard.
As if building a good macro as terran and constantly trading with insane cost efficiency was hard.
Seriously...
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On February 08 2013 22:38 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:33 Alpina wrote:On February 08 2013 22:31 Destroyr wrote:
This is heart breaking. I hate myself for choosing Zerg 2 years ago. This game is so hard v. Z. It looks terrible and all the time I am cheering for that one guy that might kill some Zergs. Really this gameplay makes hate all this players you once liked. On top of that it dosn't mean anything because guess what the next GREAT release by DB and DK is on the way :'( Why so many tears? It's not like squirtle or mkp played perfectly today. Well Squirtle did play well overall though :/
Yes. Symbol and Soulkey. on the other hand played total garbage and only won because they play zerg right?~~~~~
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Squirtle went stargate, didn't scout the hydra den despite having phoenix's and went for twilight archives then went for a third, so he ate 2 cancels on the third, all this time symbol has considerable greater income... Then goes robo bay.. symbol puts spire down 30s later since it was obvious... Basically symbol grabbed an advantage and didn't let go.
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Bogus vs Symbol
TaeJa vs Soulkey
At least we got two TvZs for r8.
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United States97276 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:39 Elite_ wrote:
So far it's been RIP fan favorites... MC, PartinG, and Life will all lose next week.
Let it be known that I said BBoongBBoong would win the last GSL during his ro32 group
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On February 08 2013 22:40 Insoleet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:36 Destroyr wrote:On February 08 2013 22:33 Alpina wrote:On February 08 2013 22:31 Destroyr wrote:
This is heart breaking. I hate myself for choosing Zerg 2 years ago. This game is so hard v. Z. It looks terrible and all the time I am cheering for that one guy that might kill some Zergs. Really this gameplay makes hate all this players you once liked. On top of that it dosn't mean anything because guess what the next GREAT release by DB and DK is on the way :'( Why so many tears? It's not like squirtle or mkp played perfectly today. Hehe you realise that you can't play perfect versus macro machine zerg? You can survive mindgames and cheese (if you scout it DAMN squirtle) but it is so hard to beat zergs in a normal game. There are so many reasons why the players should advance and Zergs should not. The bigest is - well as a zerg you don't have to do all that much to play good and don't make mistakes. You see the whole map, you can move around on it, you can expand and be gready as fuck - the only thing you need is to spread creep and macro it's so much easier to play zerg. Lol, as if forcefielding on 3 bases, building a stupidly strong deathball and amoving was hard. As if building a good macro as terran and constantly trading with insane cost efficiency was hard. Seriously...
Well we will see... I am not that sure. Maybe it is just that at the current state of the game playing this playstyle on most of the maps favors the WOL Zerg composition and it is just the playstyle that is so anoying to me. I really like ling muta play :'( and I really miss it. Poor DRG.
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I dont know why i'm so sad! ... but for some reason todays results have made me sad  ...
I suppose were just to the point that anytime a protoss gets knocked out it's gonna make me sad lol. So far zerg players have won 8 GSL's, terran players have won 8 GSL's protoss have won 3. But Squirtle really didnt play as well as he had to in order to advance. Just really rooting for protoss this season! MC and Parting left, i couldn't think of any other protoss i'd like to be leading the charge for protoss!
Anyway i'm done rambling
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It is possible to have four zergs in the semi final. What a way to transit into Heart of the Swarm.
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On February 08 2013 22:36 Destroyr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:33 Alpina wrote:On February 08 2013 22:31 Destroyr wrote:
This is heart breaking. I hate myself for choosing Zerg 2 years ago. This game is so hard v. Z. It looks terrible and all the time I am cheering for that one guy that might kill some Zergs. Really this gameplay makes hate all this players you once liked. On top of that it dosn't mean anything because guess what the next GREAT release by DB and DK is on the way :'( Why so many tears? It's not like squirtle or mkp played perfectly today. Hehe you realise that you can't play perfect versus macro machine zerg? You can survive mindgames and cheese (if you scout it DAMN squirtle) but it is so hard to beat zergs in a normal game. There are so many reasons why the other players should advance and Zergs should not. The bigest is - well as a zerg you don't have to do all that much to play good and don't make mistakes. You see the whole map, you can move around on it, you can expand and be gready as fuck - the only thing you need is to spread creep and macro it's so much easier to play zerg. You just can't justify some wins (i think). Also ZvZ lategame - who wants to watch this? When I have to justify to buy GSL ticket (the league where at least some players are that can stop this madness) I can't look in the eyes of a friend and tell him he has to buy it because the games are so entertaining (and this is to some degree zergs fault).
What is this i don't even..
So apparently zerg is some kind of easy-mode race. Thanks for enlightening me.
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On February 08 2013 22:40 rasers wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:38 samurai80 wrote:On February 08 2013 22:33 Alpina wrote:On February 08 2013 22:31 Destroyr wrote:
This is heart breaking. I hate myself for choosing Zerg 2 years ago. This game is so hard v. Z. It looks terrible and all the time I am cheering for that one guy that might kill some Zergs. Really this gameplay makes hate all this players you once liked. On top of that it dosn't mean anything because guess what the next GREAT release by DB and DK is on the way :'( Why so many tears? It's not like squirtle or mkp played perfectly today. Well Squirtle did play well overall though :/ Yes. Symbol and Soulkey. on the other hand played total garbage and only won because they play zerg right?~~~~~
Kind sad is that when DRG lost yesterday, no one said he's garbage despite only having to practice one MU, and one MU that supposedly is totally imba and ezpz for zergs.
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On February 08 2013 22:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:39 Elite_ wrote:
So far it's been RIP fan favorites... MC, PartinG, and Life will all lose next week. Let it be known that I said BBoongBBoong would win the last GSL during his ro32 group
Fits to sniper winning that one before  .
@Alpina: No. It is just easier. You have to make a lot of stuff for your macro but it is rewarded with more easy to take engagements. Its just more rewarding in my eyes. You have less risk and more chance of winning because of creep spread and the production. When creep spread was introduced nobody was that good with it. Now a map is purple in 14 minutes and only in a few games the other races can deal with it properly.
But maybe I am just a noob -.-
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Austria24417 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:45 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:40 rasers wrote:On February 08 2013 22:38 samurai80 wrote:On February 08 2013 22:33 Alpina wrote:On February 08 2013 22:31 Destroyr wrote:
This is heart breaking. I hate myself for choosing Zerg 2 years ago. This game is so hard v. Z. It looks terrible and all the time I am cheering for that one guy that might kill some Zergs. Really this gameplay makes hate all this players you once liked. On top of that it dosn't mean anything because guess what the next GREAT release by DB and DK is on the way :'( Why so many tears? It's not like squirtle or mkp played perfectly today. Well Squirtle did play well overall though :/ Yes. Symbol and Soulkey. on the other hand played total garbage and only won because they play zerg right?~~~~~ Kind sad is that when DRG lost yesterday, no one said he's garbage despite only having to practice one MU, and one MU that supposedly is totally imba and ezpz for zergs.
He did play pretty bad though, except his series vs Bomber where he played better than both Soulkey and Symbol today
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United States97276 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:45 Destroyr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2013 22:39 Elite_ wrote:
So far it's been RIP fan favorites... MC, PartinG, and Life will all lose next week. Let it be known that I said BBoongBBoong would win the last GSL during his ro32 group Fits to sniper winning that one before .
Opterown and I decided that if B4 wins the GSL Pizza Hut should sponsor him
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Ah man i'm so sad i couldn't watch the final matchup Squirtle - Symbol I'm at work.But fuck yeah i'm so happy for Symbol!!!
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Squirtle got quite clearly outplayed vs Symbol on both the last matches, there wasnt a single infestor built in both games, game 2 protoss made a deathball and attacked into spines + broods.
Roach/Hydra OP now?
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Austria24417 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:48 sibs wrote:
Squirtle got quite clearly outplayed vs Symbol on both the last matches, there wasnt a single infestor built in both games, game 2 protoss made a deathball and attacked into spines + broods.
Roach/Hydra OP now?
Chill out dude. Nobody said Squirtle played like a genius. Nobody is complaining about anything but BL/infestor. You're missing the point again
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On February 08 2013 22:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:48 sibs wrote:
Squirtle got quite clearly outplayed vs Symbol on both the last matches, there wasnt a single infestor built in both games, game 2 protoss made a deathball and attacked into spines + broods.
Roach/Hydra OP now?
Chill out dude. Nobody said Squirtle played like a genius.
The only genius dropped out of code A. 
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I just don't like the state of the PvZ matchup. If Zerg gets to Broodlord/infestor, they win in like 95% of the cases. How they get there does not matter. If they are, like in game 3 of soulkey vs squirtle, down to 1 mining base with 0 bank, and they have this army, they still win. If a Protoss has to cancel a base, it's over, all of his timings are screwed and his only chance to win, by using a 3base all in, is eliminated.
On the other hand, Protoss has some really, really strong all-ins off of 2 and 3 bases, which are used in 99% of the games, because a) they are really hard to hold without bl/infestor and b) the only viable option to win.
I'm not trying to say that Squirtle totally deserved to get out of this group, he got really cocky after he went 3-0 and screwed up hard vs Soulkey, i mean he scoutet 10 lings and no 3rd in game 2 and still did not add cannons wtf. In the 2nd series against Symbol he played bad, and deserved to lose, but this does not change the fact that the MU is broken, imo.
Well, all that's left is to root for the soultrain, the bosstoss and hots to fix all of this.
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Pretty insane, considering Soulkey's family name is also MinChul. (or as I like to call him "the real MC")
Let's hope he also gets to the grandfinals like his MC-counterpart did back then.
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On February 08 2013 23:11 figq wrote:Pretty insane, considering Soulkey's family name is also MinChul. (or as I like to call him "the real MC") Let's hope he also gets to the grandfinals like his MC-counterpart did back then.
holy shit >_>
@_@
I need to lie down.
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