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On February 01 2013 19:55 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:52 decado90 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
Stephano Record vs players still in current GSL Code S
vs PartinG 2-0
vs Taeja 1-2
vs Life 1-2
vs MC 11-14
vs Symbol 0-2
vs Curious 2-1
vs Bomber 8-7
vs Squirtle 3-1
vs MarineKing 4-6
Thats just for the people he has a record against that are still in GSL Code S in the running season, its 32-35. Thats 47,76% winrate against just Code S (at least top 16 players). Yes, Stephano didn't show his absolute best games against BoguS, but you guys are so harsh for it. BoguS is insanely good and Stephano is well known for being very good. How can you dismiss a guy and his history of winning lots of games even against Code S calibre for 2 games?
How can you name him not Code-S calibre when he already showed it? Want more?
vs Ryung 5-5
vs MMA 0-2
vs your beloved HuK 6-0
vs Genius 2-0
vs Heart 6-3
vs KeeN 2-1
vs Polt 15-16
vs TheStC 7-4
Its fine that you are upset or not a fan of Stephano, but forgetting or, IGNORING more so his history and calling him out as non-Code-S worthy... is stupid and ignorant, sorry to say is that harsh. Even though I would say that DRG/BoguS are more "DESERVING" or better to advance in that group, Stephano with another group with Protoss especially might have made it more easy for him. Some guys :x
47.76%? So the worst player in Code S? Code S level for sure. I feel really sorry for HuK to lay it out on his back, but he got a lesser winrate if I remember correctly in Code S with getting easy group drawings in Up/Downs and was praised the best foreign player for it, also Code-S material. Go on with your blind hate, cannot ignore the facts .
I've never praised Huk for his Code S performances, I think he's quite bad actually. I don't have "blind hate". The fact is I'm one of many people that predicted Stephano would fall out in Ro32. He's simply outclassed by these players.
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On February 01 2013 19:54 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:52 decado90 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
Stephano Record vs players still in current GSL Code S
vs PartinG 2-0
vs Taeja 1-2
vs Life 1-2
vs MC 11-14
vs Symbol 0-2
vs Curious 2-1
vs Bomber 8-7
vs Squirtle 3-1
vs MarineKing 4-6
Thats just for the people he has a record against that are still in GSL Code S in the running season, its 32-35. Thats 47,76% winrate against just Code S (at least top 16 players). Yes, Stephano didn't show his absolute best games against BoguS, but you guys are so harsh for it. BoguS is insanely good and Stephano is well known for being very good. How can you dismiss a guy and his history of winning lots of games even against Code S calibre for 2 games?
How can you name him not Code-S calibre when he already showed it? Want more?
vs Ryung 5-5
vs MMA 0-2
vs your beloved HuK 6-0
vs Genius 2-0
vs Heart 6-3
vs KeeN 2-1
vs Polt 15-16
vs TheStC 7-4
Its fine that you are upset or not a fan of Stephano, but forgetting or, IGNORING more so his history and calling him out as non-Code-S worthy... is stupid and ignorant, sorry to say is that harsh. Even though I would say that DRG/BoguS are more "DESERVING" or better to advance in that group, Stephano with another group with Protoss especially might have made it more easy for him. Some guys :x
47.76%? So the worst player in Code S? Code S level for sure. that was back when stephano was in top form, nowadays he is not code S
you mean like 3 weeks ago when he stomped MVP 2:0? yeah right... :D
all this hate is so depressing. just because some kidz dont like the guy they need to bash him with some semi accurate "knowledge" or just straight up BM/BS. this "community" is so sad...
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Oh man... EGTL vs KHAN at the same time. Dual monitor required.
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On February 01 2013 19:57 Heartland wrote:
Akilon Flats started to grow on me. Maybe it's just a passing fancy though.
It's very different when compared to most maps so i guess that makes it kinda interesting.
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this 7 queen super mapcontrol/creeep style is super sexy
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On February 01 2013 19:58 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:57 Heartland wrote:
Akilon Flats started to grow on me. Maybe it's just a passing fancy though. It's very different when compared to most maps so i guess that makes it kinda interesting.
Yeah, maybe it's just the "It's not a Daybreak clone" syndrome.
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Austria24422 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:54 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 01 2013 19:52 Douillos wrote:On February 01 2013 19:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
Stephano Record vs players still in current GSL Code S
vs PartinG 2-0
vs Taeja 1-2
vs Life 1-2
vs MC 11-14
vs Symbol 0-2
vs Curious 2-1
vs Bomber 8-7
vs Squirtle 3-1
vs MarineKing 4-6
Thats just for the people he has a record against that are still in GSL Code S in the running season, its 32-35. Thats 47,76% winrate against just Code S (at least top 16 players). Yes, Stephano didn't show his absolute best games against BoguS, but you guys are so harsh for it. BoguS is insanely good and Stephano is well known for being very good. How can you dismiss a guy and his history of winning lots of games even against Code S calibre for 2 games?
How can you name him not Code-S calibre when he already showed it? Want more?
vs Ryung 5-5
vs MMA 0-2
vs your beloved HuK 6-0
vs Genius 2-0
vs Heart 6-3
vs KeeN 2-1
vs Polt 15-16
vs TheStC 7-4
Its fine that you are upset or not a fan of Stephano, but forgetting or, IGNORING more so his history and calling him out as non-Code-S worthy... is stupid and ignorant, sorry to say is that harsh. Even though I would say that DRG/BoguS are more "DESERVING" or better to advance in that group, Stephano with another group with Protoss especially might have made it more easy for him. Some guys :x
Thank you for setting things right. Maybe some people will refrain from talking shit for a while. But do you think it will happen? Nah probably not.
Indeed :/
I'm not the biggest fan of Stephano, much less even a fan of his fans, but one performance in Code S doesn't show whether he's Code S material or not. He might have prepared extremely well but maybe he's not feeling well today. Maybe he's really nervous. Hell, maybe he needed to fart all the time and that distracted him. My point is there's tons of factors that affect a player. Almost never will you see someone perform at their very best consistently. So what if Stephano goes out say 0-4? It's happened to other, arguably better players before. Mvp went 1-4 yesterday. Is he not Code S level? Rain was in Code B until a few hours ago. Was he not Code A/S level during that time?
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are there any VODs mof the Stephano vs Innovation games?
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I agree with Wolf doing a stellar job at solo casting.
If you want Stephano to advance i guess one should root for DRG now? I am not sure Stephano has a good chance vs. DRG if it came to that
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On February 01 2013 19:58 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:55 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 01 2013 19:52 decado90 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
Stephano Record vs players still in current GSL Code S
vs PartinG 2-0
vs Taeja 1-2
vs Life 1-2
vs MC 11-14
vs Symbol 0-2
vs Curious 2-1
vs Bomber 8-7
vs Squirtle 3-1
vs MarineKing 4-6
Thats just for the people he has a record against that are still in GSL Code S in the running season, its 32-35. Thats 47,76% winrate against just Code S (at least top 16 players). Yes, Stephano didn't show his absolute best games against BoguS, but you guys are so harsh for it. BoguS is insanely good and Stephano is well known for being very good. How can you dismiss a guy and his history of winning lots of games even against Code S calibre for 2 games?
How can you name him not Code-S calibre when he already showed it? Want more?
vs Ryung 5-5
vs MMA 0-2
vs your beloved HuK 6-0
vs Genius 2-0
vs Heart 6-3
vs KeeN 2-1
vs Polt 15-16
vs TheStC 7-4
Its fine that you are upset or not a fan of Stephano, but forgetting or, IGNORING more so his history and calling him out as non-Code-S worthy... is stupid and ignorant, sorry to say is that harsh. Even though I would say that DRG/BoguS are more "DESERVING" or better to advance in that group, Stephano with another group with Protoss especially might have made it more easy for him. Some guys :x
47.76%? So the worst player in Code S? Code S level for sure. I feel really sorry for HuK to lay it out on his back, but he got a lesser winrate if I remember correctly in Code S with getting easy group drawings in Up/Downs and was praised the best foreign player for it, also Code-S material. Go on with your blind hate, cannot ignore the facts . I've never praised Huk for his Code S performances, I think he's quite bad actually. I don't have "blind hate". The fact is I'm one of many people that predicted Stephano would fall out in Ro32. He's simply outclassed by these players.
I agree with your prediction, but I think Stephano deserved a shot in code S, he's revolutionised zvt AND zvp. So you talking out of your ass saying that he didnt "earn" his spot makes people who know something of this game laugh.
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Sexy engagement from DRG there.
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On February 01 2013 19:58 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:55 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 01 2013 19:52 decado90 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
Stephano Record vs players still in current GSL Code S
vs PartinG 2-0
vs Taeja 1-2
vs Life 1-2
vs MC 11-14
vs Symbol 0-2
vs Curious 2-1
vs Bomber 8-7
vs Squirtle 3-1
vs MarineKing 4-6
Thats just for the people he has a record against that are still in GSL Code S in the running season, its 32-35. Thats 47,76% winrate against just Code S (at least top 16 players). Yes, Stephano didn't show his absolute best games against BoguS, but you guys are so harsh for it. BoguS is insanely good and Stephano is well known for being very good. How can you dismiss a guy and his history of winning lots of games even against Code S calibre for 2 games?
How can you name him not Code-S calibre when he already showed it? Want more?
vs Ryung 5-5
vs MMA 0-2
vs your beloved HuK 6-0
vs Genius 2-0
vs Heart 6-3
vs KeeN 2-1
vs Polt 15-16
vs TheStC 7-4
Its fine that you are upset or not a fan of Stephano, but forgetting or, IGNORING more so his history and calling him out as non-Code-S worthy... is stupid and ignorant, sorry to say is that harsh. Even though I would say that DRG/BoguS are more "DESERVING" or better to advance in that group, Stephano with another group with Protoss especially might have made it more easy for him. Some guys :x
47.76%? So the worst player in Code S? Code S level for sure. I feel really sorry for HuK to lay it out on his back, but he got a lesser winrate if I remember correctly in Code S with getting easy group drawings in Up/Downs and was praised the best foreign player for it, also Code-S material. Go on with your blind hate, cannot ignore the facts . I've never praised Huk for his Code S performances, I think he's quite bad actually. I don't have "blind hate". The fact is I'm one of many people that predicted Stephano would fall out in Ro32. He's simply outclassed by these players.
No one said he's better than DRG, BoguS or Hack. Doesn't mean he cannot be Code-S material. MVP is out in Round of 32, suddenly lets forget his history, not Code - S material anymore. Stephano was never said to be better or head to head with the best Koreans, but he CAN give anyone a run for his money. It isn't just a fluke that he "sometimes" beats Code S players, its skill.
You really saying he isn't Code S material because he lost 2 games to BoguS who was Top8? last season?
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Absolute roflstomp. Some terrible supply blocks from Innovation.
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Jesus DRG, his Muta play is just so beautiful.
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Why would a terran go out like that?
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On February 01 2013 19:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
Stephano Record vs players still in current GSL Code S
vs PartinG 2-0
vs Taeja 1-2
vs Life 1-2
vs MC 11-14
vs Symbol 0-2
vs Curious 2-1
vs Bomber 8-7
vs Squirtle 3-1
vs MarineKing 4-6
Thats just for the people he has a record against that are still in GSL Code S in the running season, its 32-35. Thats 47,76% winrate against just Code S (at least top 16 players). Yes, Stephano didn't show his absolute best games against BoguS, but you guys are so harsh for it. BoguS is insanely good and Stephano is well known for being very good. How can you dismiss a guy and his history of winning lots of games even against Code S calibre for 2 games?
How can you name him not Code-S calibre when he already showed it? Want more?
vs Ryung 5-5
vs MMA 0-2
vs your beloved HuK 6-0
vs Genius 2-0
vs Heart 6-3
vs KeeN 2-1
vs Polt 15-16
vs TheStC 7-4
Its fine that you are upset or not a fan of Stephano, but forgetting or, IGNORING more so his history and calling him out as non-Code-S worthy... is stupid and ignorant, sorry to say is that harsh. Even though I would say that DRG/BoguS are more "DESERVING" or better to advance in that group, Stephano with another group with Protoss especially might have made it more easy for him. Some guys :x
If you have a 48% win-rate in Code S that means you always get knocked out in the first round. All of the consistent Code S players have a much higher win-rate than that. Also Stephano has a big advantage when playing in foreign tournaments with jet-lag, maps, most formats (doesn't apply to ZvZ but double elim is better for zerg than the other races and most foreign tournaments use that format). Also the important thing isn't whether or not they are in Code S now but whether or not they were in Code S when Stephano beat them.
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innovation isn't as amazing as people think. He did well against stephano mainly because the drops worked repeatedly.
He showed a huge lacking in his army control, constantly getting fungal'd
drg is a league ahead
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Wow, DRG is just dominating. He's looking real good lately.
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On February 01 2013 19:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:51 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL S1 Code S Ro32 Group E  INnoVation vs  DongRaeGu Game 1 Map: Akilon Flats 0:00 INnoVation spawns in the top left DongRaeGu spawns in the bottom right 1:40 rax first for Innovation 2:00 hatch first for DRG fast drone scout from DRG sees the rax first pool for DRG 3:00 CC for Innovation on the low ground scv scout sees hatch first double gas for Innovation 4:00 gas for DRG Factory for Innovation 5:00 Reactor for Innovation Reactored hellion production started for Innovation tech lab for Innovation 6:00 bunker in the natural for Innovation ling speed for DRG stim research started for Innovation 3rd base started for DRG 2 more gas for DRG double ebay for Innovation 7:00 double evo for DRG spine in the natural for DRG 1-1 started for Innovation another gas for DRG 2 more rax for Innovation 1-1 ling upgardes started for DRG 2 more gas for Innovation 8:00 3rd CC started for Innovation Lair started or DRG Starport started for Innovation armory for Innovation 9:00 baneling nest for DRG Hack breaking down the rocks to his 3rd double medivac production started for Innovation combat shields for Innovation macro hatch for DRG 10:00 spire for DRG 2-2 started for Innovation siege tank production started for Innovation
11:00
marines and hellions are starting to clean up creep but DRG chases innovation back
2-2 started for DRG
siege mode research started for Innovation
baneling speed started for DRG
2nd factory for Innovation
10 mutas started for DRG
+1 flier attack started for DRG
12:00
4th base started for DRG
missile turrets going up for Innovation
+1 vehicle weapons started for Innovation
Innovation pushing out on the map
Innovation takes a hit from slow banes
mutas are revealed to help defend the push
13:00
DRG is 50 supply ahead
marines cleaning up more creep
3 more rax for Innovation
DRG is maxed vs 145 supply
3-3 started for Innovation
14:00
infestation pit started for DRG
DRG goes in to attack the army of Innovation before reinforcements arrive
DRG kills the two halves of the army
lings runby into the 3rd of Innovation
15:00
mutas kill quite a few medivacs
3rd CC of Innovation is lifted
Hive started for DRG
DRG is up 90 supply
3rd OC of Innovation dies
lings attack into the natural
mutas kill the siege tank on the high ground
Innovation is able to hold on while DRG is regrouping
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