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No balance whining, caster bashing, or player bashing in this thread.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#921
On February 01 2013 18:48 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:46 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:44 Maloreon wrote:
I've watched hundreds, thousands of SC2 pro games I'd say. Innovation's macro in this game is the best I've seen along with Flash. Madness, this dude is GOOD.


im sorry but some zergs and some terrans have better macro than both of them


Always those guys who cannot stop exaggerating when watching a really good game.

It's like "yeah man, it IS great, but exaggerating doesn't help anyone!"


Cool then, I rank Innovation's macro as 237th in the world. Strong, but moderate. Except not, show me other Terrans that can pull off 6 bases WHILE dropping, pushing back creep, on a map that is pretty strong for Zerg (generally speaking). It's not exaggerating if it's true.


his macro is at least top125, please brah
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#922
On February 01 2013 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
I wonder how far Terrans with great macro and mediocre splitting can go. Bomber, Flash, Bogus...

Foreigners: Kas
Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#923
On February 01 2013 18:49 Fionn wrote:
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On February 01 2013 18:48 Goldylock wrote:
Wow that might be the best game of sc2 I've ever seen



it's in the top 400 of all-time for me.


Nah. More like top 500.
~Ryung~Genius~Bomber~Nestea~Liquid_Jinro~Sage~San~jjakji~Boxer~Fantasy~Polt~
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#924
Stephano didn't played "patchzerg" mass queen style that all zergs are currently using in this GSL season vs terran, 6 to 8 queens openings with mass creep spread and good drop defense, in fact most terrans don't even try to drop that much anymore because it doesn't work anymore, but Stephano never put an overlord at the bot left of his main ><
He had very good micro and engagements tho.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#925
On February 01 2013 18:43 halim42 wrote:
very good map for terran


I love the excuses.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/550_Crux_Whirlwind

TvsZ

22-33
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#926
On February 01 2013 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
I wonder how far Terrans with great macro and mediocre splitting can go. Bomber, Flash, Bogus...


Ro4 every time.
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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#927
Bogus playing too well I didn't think he was that good. Stephano defended well but he should have made the spire earlier to deal with these drops.
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#928
On February 01 2013 18:47 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:46 Swiipii wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:44 Maloreon wrote:
I've watched hundreds, thousands of SC2 pro games I'd say. Innovation's macro in this game is the best I've seen along with Flash. Madness, this dude is GOOD.


im sorry but some zergs and some terrans have better macro than both of them

Bomber .

bomber's macro is overrated imo

bullshit. bomber and flash have the best macro.
gulshngill
Profile Joined December 2010
Malaysia140 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#929
Bogus has better macro/multitasking but Stephano has better army control with those flanking while taking taking engagements
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#930
I'd always seen it as Hot6"9". But it would seem the "ix" is the left over from "six".
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#931
That was a really enjoyable game, although it probably would've been different with better overlord spreading by Stephano.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#932
And now Stephano picks the most terran picked map, strange.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#933
On February 01 2013 18:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:47 X3GoldDot wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:46 Swiipii wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:44 Maloreon wrote:
I've watched hundreds, thousands of SC2 pro games I'd say. Innovation's macro in this game is the best I've seen along with Flash. Madness, this dude is GOOD.


im sorry but some zergs and some terrans have better macro than both of them

Bomber .

bomber's macro is overrated imo

I think you need to watch some bomber games, brah.


And so is Flash's macro. Of course, Flash has great macro. But is it OMFG, the BEST macro EVAR? Nope.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#934
On February 01 2013 18:48 mcmartini wrote:
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On February 01 2013 18:45 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:44 Tsubbi wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:42 Tsubbi wrote:
terrible strategy choice by stephano for whirlwind

brood lords can be iffy, i don't think it was the plan so much as the execution. also, late spire.


no muta on whirlwind = terrible strategy

then stephano tvz on whirlwind = terrible. for some reason he never uses mutas..

I felt like that build by innovation expected mutas and they just never came so probably a good choice not to go muta.

*

Exactly!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#935
On February 01 2013 18:49 Fionn wrote:
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On February 01 2013 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
I wonder how far Terrans with great macro and mediocre splitting can go. Bomber, Flash, Bogus...


well polt showed us in 2011 that a terran with shit macro and godly micro can win a title, and a terran with goldy macro and shit micro cannot with top.



polts macro was leagues better than top's micro tho
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#936
It's so weird because Bomber is a MMM micro king in TvP -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
February 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#937
On February 01 2013 18:48 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:46 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:44 Maloreon wrote:
I've watched hundreds, thousands of SC2 pro games I'd say. Innovation's macro in this game is the best I've seen along with Flash. Madness, this dude is GOOD.


im sorry but some zergs and some terrans have better macro than both of them


Always those guys who cannot stop exaggerating when watching a really good game.

It's like "yeah man, it IS great, but exaggerating doesn't help anyone!"


Cool then, I rank Innovation's macro as 237th in the world. Strong, but moderate. Except not, show me other Terrans that can pull off 6 bases WHILE dropping, pushing back creep, on a map that is pretty strong for Zerg (generally speaking). It's not exaggerating if it's true.

It's called multitask not macro lol.
WriterMaru
Dragt
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany73 Posts
February 01 2013 09:51 GMT
#938
Stephano couldn´t get a better start then facing a terran on that map. I hope he still makes it, but INoVation played amazing.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
February 01 2013 09:51 GMT
#939
mvp who?
bisu
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
February 01 2013 09:51 GMT
#940
anyone else lagging like crazy on 540p?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
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