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Usual rules apply. Balance whine will be moderated harshly.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
January 26 2013 12:57 GMT
#1901
how long until it's back?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1902
On January 26 2013 21:55 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:53 Pandain wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:50 Tobblish wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:49 X3GoldDot wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


all ZvZs between 2 top zergs are always good

It's still ZvZ so it's always going to be worse than the other matchups.


No this is what people who are retarded think.
There's only one reason why people who don't like ZvZ would, with a good reason, not like ZvZ. And that's that there have been too much.

But people have always said "Oh shit, ZvZ! Time to go pack bags!"


Go watch a crazy ling bling micro war; then go see the biggest roach hydra vs roach hydra concaves with key infestor fungals constantly changing the scope of battle.

If you need an example of how immaculate ZvZ has become, go watch Leenock Life, particuarly the game on Cloud Kingdom. Probably the best ZvZ game of all time.


THats not what I'm saying, some ZvZ can be great I'm saying that no matter what, a good game of any of the other matchups would be valued higher.



I like ZvZ- very interesting in my opinion. The thing I don't like about it is that most tournament have shitty bitrates which causes units to blend together and look all blurry.
GoGo Nestea!!!
Long live the Boss Toss!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1903
On January 26 2013 21:56 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:56 opterown wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:51 Nocteo wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


I think people are mostly getting a bit bored by the fact that it is constantly ZvZ especially for semi/finals rather than them being boring and or amazing games. They were amazing but at some point there are just enough of them.
I had more then enough TvTs in the past.

well if we don't have zvzs for a year, then maybe people would look forward to them again ;p we haven't had a lot of tvts for a while


if there were equal numbers for every matchup, ppl would quickly realize tvt and zvz are incredible

i enjoy almost all matchups save for pvz, which is still pretty stupid despite nerfs and all. and maybe zvt as well, which i think is still a bit ergh.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1904
Suddenly, MarineKing 1-1 Liquid HerO.

Wut. O_o
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1905
On January 26 2013 21:57 Za7oX wrote:
how long until it's back?

50min
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1906
On January 26 2013 21:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:56 Tobblish wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:55 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:51 Nocteo wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


I think people are mostly getting a bit bored by the fact that it is constantly ZvZ especially for semi/finals rather than them being boring and or amazing games. They were amazing but at some point there are just enough of them.
I had more then enough TvTs in the past.

nothing will beat the boredom of the era of PvZ around the end of NASL3

For me nothing will beat the boredom of the era of TvT I can not still recover the passion fro this matchup...


Killing SC2 not enjoying MMA vs Gumiho and Bomber vs Gumioh..


FlaSh vs Ryung on Whirlwind. Nuff said.

Different eras of TvT though. The one they are talking about are the days of "lol I hope my blue flame hellion drop does more than his blue flame hellion drop" and even worse was the tank viking days
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Black17
Profile Joined October 2011
France435 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1907
On January 26 2013 21:57 Za7oX wrote:
how long until it's back?


it's back in 50 minutes exactly
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1908
On January 26 2013 21:54 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:53 Rollora wrote:
who's the girl, is that zoey or how she was called?
Finally a female caster that isn't there for her looks but for some knowhow, not like the NASL girl

It´s Soe, yes.

And she´s awesome. And talented. And awesome. And beautiful. And gorgeous!

:D thx 4 explanation.
I agree with talented, i also like her accent. Personally to me she isn't beautiful, more like average but tastes are different.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#1909
On January 26 2013 21:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:56 Tobblish wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:55 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:51 Nocteo wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


I think people are mostly getting a bit bored by the fact that it is constantly ZvZ especially for semi/finals rather than them being boring and or amazing games. They were amazing but at some point there are just enough of them.
I had more then enough TvTs in the past.

nothing will beat the boredom of the era of PvZ around the end of NASL3

For me nothing will beat the boredom of the era of TvT I can not still recover the passion fro this matchup...


Killing SC2 not enjoying MMA vs Gumiho and Bomber vs Gumioh..


FlaSh vs Ryung on Whirlwind. Nuff said.

Different eras of TvT though. The one they are talking about are the days of "lol I hope my blue flame hellion drop does more than his blue flame hellion drop" and even worse was the tank viking days


Anaheim top 6 matches. Top level TvT
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1910
time for PL vods
#TheOneTrueDong
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1911
On January 26 2013 21:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:56 Tobblish wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:55 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:51 Nocteo wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


I think people are mostly getting a bit bored by the fact that it is constantly ZvZ especially for semi/finals rather than them being boring and or amazing games. They were amazing but at some point there are just enough of them.
I had more then enough TvTs in the past.

nothing will beat the boredom of the era of PvZ around the end of NASL3

For me nothing will beat the boredom of the era of TvT I can not still recover the passion fro this matchup...


Killing SC2 not enjoying MMA vs Gumiho and Bomber vs Gumioh..


FlaSh vs Ryung on Whirlwind. Nuff said.

Different eras of TvT though. The one they are talking about are the days of "lol I hope my blue flame hellion drop does more than his blue flame hellion drop" and even worse was the tank viking days


Anaheim top 6 matches. Top level TvT

yeah but the GSL ro32 ones were pretty dumb
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 12:59:45
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1912
On January 26 2013 21:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:56 Tobblish wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:55 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:51 Nocteo wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


I think people are mostly getting a bit bored by the fact that it is constantly ZvZ especially for semi/finals rather than them being boring and or amazing games. They were amazing but at some point there are just enough of them.
I had more then enough TvTs in the past.

nothing will beat the boredom of the era of PvZ around the end of NASL3

For me nothing will beat the boredom of the era of TvT I can not still recover the passion fro this matchup...


Killing SC2 not enjoying MMA vs Gumiho and Bomber vs Gumioh..


FlaSh vs Ryung on Whirlwind. Nuff said.

Different eras of TvT though. The one they are talking about are the days of "lol I hope my blue flame hellion drop does more than his blue flame hellion drop" and even worse was the tank viking days


Anaheim top 6 matches. Top level TvT

I only remember many a match ending via blue flame runbys and drops at Anaheim.
And boxer vs rain but that goes without saying.
Glorious SEA doto
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 12:59:43
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1913
On January 26 2013 21:56 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:55 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:51 Nocteo wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


I think people are mostly getting a bit bored by the fact that it is constantly ZvZ especially for semi/finals rather than them being boring and or amazing games. They were amazing but at some point there are just enough of them.
I had more then enough TvTs in the past.

nothing will beat the boredom of the era of PvZ around the end of NASL3

For me nothing will beat the boredom of the era of TvT I can not still recover the passion fro this matchup...


Killing SC2 not enjoying MMA vs Gumiho and Bomber vs Gumioh..

Man I watch every GSL and SPL game not only Finals and I enjoy some TvT also I would add Flash vs TY and some crazy games in SPL like TurN vs TY or Flash vs Reality.
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1914
On January 26 2013 21:47 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
too bad that its only zvz from now on. Its a really nice tournament but im not gonna watch dem zergs all day long

Not is not. Mkp vs loser for 3rd place match
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 13:01:32
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1915
On January 26 2013 21:56 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 21:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:54 DiMano wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:51 Nocteo wrote:
On January 26 2013 21:48 Pandain wrote:
The past 5 ZvZ series have all had LR threads full of people spouting "ZvZ! Time to go! Pack yer bags!"

Yet the past 5 ZvZ series I've seen have been amazing.

Also people still say ZvZ is coinflip, or gimmicky, or dumb.

ZvZ hasn't been coinflippy since 2011/early-mid 2012.


I think people are mostly getting a bit bored by the fact that it is constantly ZvZ especially for semi/finals rather than them being boring and or amazing games. They were amazing but at some point there are just enough of them.
I had more then enough TvTs in the past.

nothing will beat the boredom of the era of PvZ around the end of NASL3


all subjective, tvt 2011 was out of control with 20 terrans in code s, that was way more boring



Yeah, when people have to see non-stop mirror match ups, naturally people who play other races will complain the most. But honestly how can someone say TVT is the most boring match up? TvT is what defines what RTS is all about. With position, multitasking, unit control, the patience. It's the ultimate matchup. Anyways enough of my Terran bias. .
Getting too old for this..
warzag
Profile Joined October 2011
France259 Posts
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1916
They said that ToD will play some HotS on stage later, and they said it will be a TvP. Maybe ForGG (who wins the KotH during the groupstage) will join ToD for an epic battle ?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 26 2013 12:59 GMT
#1917
On January 26 2013 21:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Suddenly, MarineKing 1-1 Liquid HerO.

Wut. O_o

they are trying to keep the mkp fans on stream.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 26 2013 13:00 GMT
#1918
I don't get the ZvZ complaints, you guys knew what you were signing up for when you started watching, I mean you saw MKP vs Life and you actually expected MKP to win?

foolish mkp fans ;o
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 26 2013 13:00 GMT
#1919
On January 26 2013 21:59 Fusilero wrote:
I only remember many a match ending via blue flame runbys and drops at Anaheim.


hey at least it was fun to watch. just because everyone was screaming LINE EM UPPPPPPPPPPPPP.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
January 26 2013 13:00 GMT
#1920
On January 26 2013 21:55 Sumahi wrote:
Soe and Day9 together are so cute!!!

[image loading]

She´s so beautiful.
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