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On January 19 2013 14:19 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 14:16 oogieogie wrote:On January 19 2013 14:10 Cele wrote:On January 19 2013 14:05 iamahydralisk wrote: y'all complaining about zvz... it could be worse. in BW, zvz was the same exact matchup virtually every game because doing anything other than the standard muta/ling build got you rolled. at least zvz in SC2 is a slightly more dynamic matchup r u serious? bw had epic mutalisk micro. i love seeing this more than 40 roaches staring at each other I would much rather watch SC2 ZvZ over BW ZvZ unless it was a hive BW ZvZ. No way. Muta fights were awesome after the drama over the pool timings. Each drone was a talking point. Yea but that was basically the same thing for every single ZvZ unless hive ZvZ so after a while it was just boring for me personally.
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Is the stream lagging for anyone else?
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On January 19 2013 14:21 Ace Frehley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 14:16 oogieogie wrote:On January 19 2013 14:10 Cele wrote:On January 19 2013 14:05 iamahydralisk wrote: y'all complaining about zvz... it could be worse. in BW, zvz was the same exact matchup virtually every game because doing anything other than the standard muta/ling build got you rolled. at least zvz in SC2 is a slightly more dynamic matchup r u serious? bw had epic mutalisk micro. i love seeing this more than 40 roaches staring at each other I would much rather watch SC2 ZvZ over BW ZvZ unless it was a hive BW ZvZ. BW ZvZ is the equivalent of early SC2 PvP; 4 Gate yourself or get rolled by your opponent's 4 Gate Terrible matchup
i doubt you know what your talking about ^^
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On January 19 2013 14:18 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 14:16 oogieogie wrote:On January 19 2013 14:10 Cele wrote:On January 19 2013 14:05 iamahydralisk wrote: y'all complaining about zvz... it could be worse. in BW, zvz was the same exact matchup virtually every game because doing anything other than the standard muta/ling build got you rolled. at least zvz in SC2 is a slightly more dynamic matchup r u serious? bw had epic mutalisk micro. i love seeing this more than 40 roaches staring at each other I would much rather watch SC2 ZvZ over BW ZvZ unless it was a hive BW ZvZ. agreed SC2 ZvZ is really awesome BW ZvZ is eh...
I appreciate both. You need to have a really refined taste for BW ZvZ and it truly came down to every last unit. Magnifique! Your Artosis quote is quite something else. Just noticed it now O;
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I wonder what will happen with him in code S. I guess Code S is more important than pro league so he is resting for that, they really have missed him tt.
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Teamless.Polt's stream keeps going down
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Lololol so much "East vs West" vibe from Korean casters...
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On January 19 2013 14:21 Emzeeshady wrote: omg Polt is streaming!
BYE lol. thanks for letting me know.
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Eh, I feel like the ridiculous ZvZ micro of Brood War is well represented in SC2's Zergling/Baneling.
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LOL. This must be staged :p
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On January 19 2013 14:22 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 14:19 Sabu113 wrote:On January 19 2013 14:16 oogieogie wrote:On January 19 2013 14:10 Cele wrote:On January 19 2013 14:05 iamahydralisk wrote: y'all complaining about zvz... it could be worse. in BW, zvz was the same exact matchup virtually every game because doing anything other than the standard muta/ling build got you rolled. at least zvz in SC2 is a slightly more dynamic matchup r u serious? bw had epic mutalisk micro. i love seeing this more than 40 roaches staring at each other I would much rather watch SC2 ZvZ over BW ZvZ unless it was a hive BW ZvZ. No way. Muta fights were awesome after the drama over the pool timings. Each drone was a talking point. Yea but that was basically the same thing for every single ZvZ unless hive ZvZ so after a while it was just boring for me personally.
Build order loses do leave a bitter taste in the mouth but amount of control to be a good BW zvz was ridiculously high.
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these zvzs are making me so sleepy =/
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On January 19 2013 14:26 LighT. wrote: lol @ these builds It's just ridiculous. I don't think I've ever seen it this close.
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On January 19 2013 14:22 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 14:19 Sabu113 wrote:On January 19 2013 14:16 oogieogie wrote:On January 19 2013 14:10 Cele wrote:On January 19 2013 14:05 iamahydralisk wrote: y'all complaining about zvz... it could be worse. in BW, zvz was the same exact matchup virtually every game because doing anything other than the standard muta/ling build got you rolled. at least zvz in SC2 is a slightly more dynamic matchup r u serious? bw had epic mutalisk micro. i love seeing this more than 40 roaches staring at each other I would much rather watch SC2 ZvZ over BW ZvZ unless it was a hive BW ZvZ. No way. Muta fights were awesome after the drama over the pool timings. Each drone was a talking point. Yea but that was basically the same thing for every single ZvZ unless hive ZvZ so after a while it was just boring for me personally.
I think there's a fetishistic idea in sc2 that each game should be strategically unique or else it's stale. With how fragile both players were in zvz it meant that each little detail was sooo sooo important. that one drone snipe was fucking massive.
Then you have the spliting and cloning of scourges and the mutapacks microing to kill them or get free shots.
That's intense.
Admittedly i don't understand sc2 zvz that well so maybe I'm missing something. I just don't see the same sort of knife fight going on or hell any weird micromoment (pvp iwth reavers <3) that makes it very dynamic. It seems more macro focused and while that's something that can be appreciated it isn't sexy like amazing control or important moments.
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