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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
January 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#1221
On January 19 2013 01:52 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:50 o)_Saurus wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:50 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:49 Nick! wrote:
So Dream/Grubby/TLO advance?


Dream/TLO/Moonglade, if my math is correct (Glade and Grubby both at +1, Glade > Grubby in H2H).


total maps won counts higher as h2h afaik.
So Grubby advances 3rd over moonglade.


yes, Grubby should pay TLO's dinner tonight.


If that's true then yes Grubby should. Also they should stream that. I'd watch.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#1222
On January 19 2013 01:49 Mouzone wrote:
Grubby 7-6 score, Moonglade 6-5 if i'm not mistaken so Grubby should take the spot?

which is just a terrible system, cause Moonglade has a better winratio and he drops out ...
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
January 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#1223
--- Nuked ---
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
January 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#1224
On January 19 2013 01:55 najreteip wrote:
IntelExtremeMasters ‏@IEM
Dream wins Group B, followed by TLO and Grubby. #IEM #Katowice

Strange rule, I'm not complaining + Show Spoiler +
<3 Grubby
but this doesn't really seem fair to Moonglade


How does it not? 7 is more than 6 lol.
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
January 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#1225
On January 19 2013 01:53 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Queens > everything


Sad but true!
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#1226
On January 19 2013 01:52 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:50 o)_Saurus wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:50 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:49 Nick! wrote:
So Dream/Grubby/TLO advance?


Dream/TLO/Moonglade, if my math is correct (Glade and Grubby both at +1, Glade > Grubby in H2H).


total maps won counts higher as h2h afaik.
So Grubby advances 3rd over moonglade.


Are you sure about that? I thought H2H is the second tie-breaker after map-score.


I am pretty sure as well.
But its totally silly to go by total map wins .
- You don't stimulate a more offensive playstyle (like more goals/points in other sports)
- Player with less total map wins, but equal difference, has a higher win percentage (if they have winning records)

Still happy for Grubby.
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
January 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#1227
Tarson and Siphonn are feeling like punching bags in this tournament.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
January 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#1228
On January 19 2013 01:55 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:55 najreteip wrote:
IntelExtremeMasters ‏@IEM
Dream wins Group B, followed by TLO and Grubby. #IEM #Katowice

Strange rule, I'm not complaining + Show Spoiler +
<3 Grubby
but this doesn't really seem fair to Moonglade


How does it not? 7 is more than 6 lol.

But 6 is more than 5 as well.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
January 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#1229
On January 19 2013 01:55 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:55 najreteip wrote:
IntelExtremeMasters ‏@IEM
Dream wins Group B, followed by TLO and Grubby. #IEM #Katowice

Strange rule, I'm not complaining + Show Spoiler +
<3 Grubby
but this doesn't really seem fair to Moonglade


How does it not? 7 is more than 6 lol.

Net wins-losses is the same for both players, seems like h2h is a better way to approach the situation when that happens
I have no quote!
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
January 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#1230
Nice game by Daisy
Fut am Bam
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
January 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#1231
On January 19 2013 01:55 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:49 Mouzone wrote:
Grubby 7-6 score, Moonglade 6-5 if i'm not mistaken so Grubby should take the spot?

which is just a terrible system, cause Moonglade has a better winratio and he drops out ...


So Moonglade has the better winratio but he has less mapwins overall. Grubby won more maps, even when he lost the series, Grubby goes through. I think that system is fine.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#1232
On January 19 2013 01:55 najreteip wrote:
IntelExtremeMasters ‏@IEM
Dream wins Group B, followed by TLO and Grubby. #IEM #Katowice

Strange rule, I'm not complaining + Show Spoiler +
<3 Grubby
but this doesn't really seem fair to Moonglade

He loses on either set of traditional tiebreakers. Mapscore = last place. head to head we had moonglade > Grubby > TLO > moonglade which would then go to map score meaning moonglade is out again. I don't see how it's unfair
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
January 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#1233
Wow VortiX - ESCDaisy 0-2
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10166 Posts
January 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#1234
On January 19 2013 01:54 Blacktion wrote:
And i feel dirty when i 2 port banshee................


I would feel naked, not dirty.
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
January 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#1235
On January 19 2013 01:55 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:55 najreteip wrote:
IntelExtremeMasters ‏@IEM
Dream wins Group B, followed by TLO and Grubby. #IEM #Katowice

Strange rule, I'm not complaining + Show Spoiler +
<3 Grubby
but this doesn't really seem fair to Moonglade


How does it not? 7 is more than 6 lol.


And in my oppinion 2-1 is also better than 1-0 (and so on) so I think the rule is fine.
But you can definitly argue about that...
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#1236
yay Grubby ♥
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
January 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#1237
On January 19 2013 01:53 OKMarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:50 o)_Saurus wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:50 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:49 Nick! wrote:
So Dream/Grubby/TLO advance?


Dream/TLO/Moonglade, if my math is correct (Glade and Grubby both at +1, Glade > Grubby in H2H).


total maps won counts higher as h2h afaik.
So Grubby advances 3rd over moonglade.


Really? If that's the case, then that rule makes no sense. 7-6 isn't better than 6-5.


It is better. An extreme example would be 70-60 and 60-50, +10 gets worth more the more games were played.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
January 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#1238
Nice, decent enough results for me despite snute dropping out
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
January 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#1239
On January 19 2013 01:55 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:55 najreteip wrote:
IntelExtremeMasters ‏@IEM
Dream wins Group B, followed by TLO and Grubby. #IEM #Katowice

Strange rule, I'm not complaining + Show Spoiler +
<3 Grubby
but this doesn't really seem fair to Moonglade


How does it not? 7 is more than 6 lol.


It's not 7 vs 6, it's 7-6 vs 6-5. One score isn't better than the other. (Actually 6-5 is better in %)
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
January 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#1240
On January 19 2013 01:55 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:55 najreteip wrote:
IntelExtremeMasters ‏@IEM
Dream wins Group B, followed by TLO and Grubby. #IEM #Katowice

Strange rule, I'm not complaining + Show Spoiler +
<3 Grubby
but this doesn't really seem fair to Moonglade


How does it not? 7 is more than 6 lol.


Head to head makes waaay more sense to me. But agreed that I'm glad Grubby made it through.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
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