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On January 19 2013 06:17 ElMeanYo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:15 ssxsilver wrote:On January 19 2013 06:11 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I feel starcraft is a very snowbally game and the patch has definetely an impact. We had 10 zerg players in round of 24. in round of 12 there are only 2 left. When did something like this happen in the last 10 month?
i was often wondering in engagements, what if it's would still have upgrades. If its an imbalance, i think you cant tell yet, but it definetely impacts the games But are there any Zergs you think that actually got upset? Other than Kas over Vortix and TLO over Snute (which cancels out), I don't think the representation is too surprising. Take for example the two Korean Zergs, I'd place all the other Koreans before them w/o hesitation. Agreed. All the Zergs in this tournament are bad except for Nerchio, and he hasn't been in top form lately.
I thought Snute was the next "best foreigner", so now he's bad all of a sudden? Damn, it's hard to keep up.
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On January 19 2013 06:20 Big J wrote:They are all switching race, because Life got Zerg nerfed into oblivion and it has now become unplayable for non-GSL champions 
wat. zerg is by far the strongest race with foreigners. just look at EVERYWHERE.
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On January 19 2013 06:11 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I feel starcraft is a very snowbally game and the patch has definetely an impact. We had 10 zerg players in round of 24. in round of 12 there are only 2 left. When did something like this happen in the last 10 month?
i was often wondering in engagements, what if it's would still have upgrades. If its an imbalance, i think you cant tell yet, but it definetely impacts the games
The patch came out a few days ago, they'll need to adapt like everyone else when a patch hits the game.
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On January 19 2013 06:19 JOJOsc2news wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:18 Dodgin wrote:On January 19 2013 06:12 KalWarkov wrote:RO 8 Dream  PartinG  Socke  First RO 12 Lucifron  YoDa  Kas  Grubby  MaNa  Daisy  TLO  Nerchio --> 6x  | 4x  | 2x  Where have all the zergies gone Their not in Katowice  Out of Stephano and DIMAGA, all the best european zergs are there.
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On January 19 2013 06:22 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:17 ElMeanYo wrote:On January 19 2013 06:15 ssxsilver wrote:On January 19 2013 06:11 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I feel starcraft is a very snowbally game and the patch has definetely an impact. We had 10 zerg players in round of 24. in round of 12 there are only 2 left. When did something like this happen in the last 10 month?
i was often wondering in engagements, what if it's would still have upgrades. If its an imbalance, i think you cant tell yet, but it definetely impacts the games But are there any Zergs you think that actually got upset? Other than Kas over Vortix and TLO over Snute (which cancels out), I don't think the representation is too surprising. Take for example the two Korean Zergs, I'd place all the other Koreans before them w/o hesitation. Agreed. All the Zergs in this tournament are bad except for Nerchio, and he hasn't been in top form lately. I thought Snute was the next "best foreigner", so now he's bad all of a sudden? Damn, it's hard to keep up.  Snute wasn't ever the either the "next best foriegner" or the next "best foreigner" imo.
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On January 19 2013 06:20 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:18 Dodgin wrote:On January 19 2013 06:12 KalWarkov wrote:RO 8 Dream  PartinG  Socke  First RO 12 Lucifron  YoDa  Kas  Grubby  MaNa  Daisy  TLO  Nerchio --> 6x  | 4x  | 2x  Where have all the zergies gone They are all switching race, because Life got Zerg nerfed into oblivion and it has now become unplayable for non-GSL champions 
I think MVP's love/hate relationship with Terran still trumps that 
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On January 19 2013 06:22 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:17 ElMeanYo wrote:On January 19 2013 06:15 ssxsilver wrote:On January 19 2013 06:11 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I feel starcraft is a very snowbally game and the patch has definetely an impact. We had 10 zerg players in round of 24. in round of 12 there are only 2 left. When did something like this happen in the last 10 month?
i was often wondering in engagements, what if it's would still have upgrades. If its an imbalance, i think you cant tell yet, but it definetely impacts the games But are there any Zergs you think that actually got upset? Other than Kas over Vortix and TLO over Snute (which cancels out), I don't think the representation is too surprising. Take for example the two Korean Zergs, I'd place all the other Koreans before them w/o hesitation. Agreed. All the Zergs in this tournament are bad except for Nerchio, and he hasn't been in top form lately. I thought Snute was the next "best foreigner", so now he's bad all of a sudden? Damn, it's hard to keep up.  Also Vortix, Bly and TLO are pretty damn good
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On January 19 2013 06:23 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:22 sitromit wrote:On January 19 2013 06:17 ElMeanYo wrote:On January 19 2013 06:15 ssxsilver wrote:On January 19 2013 06:11 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I feel starcraft is a very snowbally game and the patch has definetely an impact. We had 10 zerg players in round of 24. in round of 12 there are only 2 left. When did something like this happen in the last 10 month?
i was often wondering in engagements, what if it's would still have upgrades. If its an imbalance, i think you cant tell yet, but it definetely impacts the games But are there any Zergs you think that actually got upset? Other than Kas over Vortix and TLO over Snute (which cancels out), I don't think the representation is too surprising. Take for example the two Korean Zergs, I'd place all the other Koreans before them w/o hesitation. Agreed. All the Zergs in this tournament are bad except for Nerchio, and he hasn't been in top form lately. I thought Snute was the next "best foreigner", so now he's bad all of a sudden? Damn, it's hard to keep up.  Snute wasn't ever the either the "next best foriegner" or the next "best foreigner" imo.
He won the "next zerg bonjwa of the month" award in december though.
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Don't be silly about the patch and its effects, btw. Infested terrans, by my observation, are most prominent in ZvZ. Some in PvZ but I think most Z's engage P without range upgrade when the first timing hits, and maybe +1 upgrade at most later on. I doubt that'd makes such big difference in the outcome.
Z's played aweful, today. (for those few I got to watch, for example Nerchio v. Yoda)
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On January 19 2013 06:21 Sabu113 wrote: Vortix and Golden are the two you really expect to advance and they were in a deathly group. First and PartinG can't really be surprises except in the context of Vor G knokcing first out.
well, it was pretty close for Vortix and the group was rly hard (i expected him to win vs Daisy even though ZvP was always his worst), jookTo, Snute and Golden kind of dissapointed me.
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I gotta say I'm really happy with the results of today.
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On January 19 2013 06:23 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:19 JOJOsc2news wrote:On January 19 2013 06:18 Dodgin wrote:On January 19 2013 06:12 KalWarkov wrote:RO 8 Dream  PartinG  Socke  First RO 12 Lucifron  YoDa  Kas  Grubby  MaNa  Daisy  TLO  Nerchio --> 6x  | 4x  | 2x  Where have all the zergies gone Their not in Katowice  Out of Stephano and DIMAGA, all the best european zergs are there.
In this tournament Xlord could have gone to 5:0.
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On January 19 2013 06:23 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:19 JOJOsc2news wrote:On January 19 2013 06:18 Dodgin wrote:On January 19 2013 06:12 KalWarkov wrote:RO 8 Dream  PartinG  Socke  First RO 12 Lucifron  YoDa  Kas  Grubby  MaNa  Daisy  TLO  Nerchio --> 6x  | 4x  | 2x  Where have all the zergies gone Their not in Katowice  Out of Stephano and DIMAGA, all the best european zergs are there.
Well SortOf, sLivko and XlorD (hes a tournament player) are not.
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On January 19 2013 06:23 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:19 JOJOsc2news wrote:On January 19 2013 06:18 Dodgin wrote:On January 19 2013 06:12 KalWarkov wrote:RO 8 Dream  PartinG  Socke  First RO 12 Lucifron  YoDa  Kas  Grubby  MaNa  Daisy  TLO  Nerchio --> 6x  | 4x  | 2x  Where have all the zergies gone Their not in Katowice  Out of Stephano and DIMAGA, all the best european zergs are there. Honestly the only surprises are Vortix and Golden not making out of their groups, the rest I didn't really expect them to make it to the playoffs.
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On January 19 2013 06:22 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:17 ElMeanYo wrote:On January 19 2013 06:15 ssxsilver wrote:On January 19 2013 06:11 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I feel starcraft is a very snowbally game and the patch has definetely an impact. We had 10 zerg players in round of 24. in round of 12 there are only 2 left. When did something like this happen in the last 10 month?
i was often wondering in engagements, what if it's would still have upgrades. If its an imbalance, i think you cant tell yet, but it definetely impacts the games But are there any Zergs you think that actually got upset? Other than Kas over Vortix and TLO over Snute (which cancels out), I don't think the representation is too surprising. Take for example the two Korean Zergs, I'd place all the other Koreans before them w/o hesitation. Agreed. All the Zergs in this tournament are bad except for Nerchio, and he hasn't been in top form lately. I thought Snute was the next "best foreigner", so now he's bad all of a sudden? Damn, it's hard to keep up. 
He hasn't won any major tournament since Homestory cup VI, he is definately in a slump for the last 27 days.
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On January 19 2013 06:13 Hylirion wrote: TLO and Nerchio the only true patchzergs to survive this patch.
It is more like they're the only ones that are not patchzergs. I am really looking forward to see how this is going to affect GSL.
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On January 19 2013 06:20 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 06:18 Dodgin wrote:On January 19 2013 06:12 KalWarkov wrote:RO 8 Dream  PartinG  Socke  First RO 12 Lucifron  YoDa  Kas  Grubby  MaNa  Daisy  TLO  Nerchio --> 6x  | 4x  | 2x  Where have all the zergies gone They are all switching race, because Life got Zerg nerfed into oblivion and it has now become unplayable for non-GSL champions 
I think I've seen this movie before...
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ahah hell yeah Kas ! You made me a bit scared but you managed to kick daisy ! Gogogo Kas ! with only 2 zerg here its stairway to glory !
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I'm not surprised zergs aren't doing as well after the patch. With less utility from the infestor, zergs are going to have to figure out how new ways to deal with various late game situations instead of the old "MOAR INFERSTERS" approach. That's going to take some time.
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On January 19 2013 06:35 scudst0rm wrote: I'm not surprised zergs aren't doing as well after the patch. With less utility from the infestor, zergs are going to have to figure out how new ways to deal with various late game situations instead of the old "MOAR INFERSTERS" approach. That's going to take some time.
MOAR GG-LORDS
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