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On January 14 2013 02:41 Foudzing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:37 legaton wrote:
Damn, Millenium are the best (foreign) talent scouts in SC2:
- Buying HuK before he become huge.
- Developing Stephano's talents
- Buying Gowser You forget: - buying Feast before he done anything, then he got 4th in one of the most stacked tournament ever - buying ForGG before he done any significative result, now he's one of the best terran especially in TvZ
ForGG won MSL (i know different game but still he was extremely well known) and i wouldnt call him one of the best terrans.
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On January 14 2013 02:41 Foudzing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:37 legaton wrote:
Damn, Millenium are the best (foreign) talent scouts in SC2:
- Buying HuK before he become huge.
- Developing Stephano's talents
- Buying Gowser You forget: - buying Feast before he done anything, then he got 4th in one of the most stacked tournament ever - buying ForGG before he done any significative result, now he's one of the best terran especially in TvZ
ForGG is good, but he hasn't done anything except get 2nd to TaeJa in a minor Dreamhack, his good, but his unproven against the top after he made the switch to EU.
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On January 14 2013 02:41 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:39 Schelim wrote:
i'll be damned if Gowswswsswswwswser beats Life and goes to Paris and then wins that as well. not only is he zerg, he is also american and a pretty unknown player. really crappy situation for ironsquid management imo. whats wrong with guys like you, wouldnt it be awesome to have a new guy win one of the most stacked tournaments to date, let alone a new na guy?
He's Zerg.
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United Kingdom2950 Posts
When were these games played?
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On January 14 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:40 ref4 wrote:On January 14 2013 02:38 Derez wrote:On January 14 2013 02:37 nomyx wrote:On January 14 2013 02:34 HugzForL wrote:
Im gonna laugh my ass off if Goswser 3-0 MVP and 3-0 Life. Even if he won the GSL, people will still say he is bad and a patch zerg. Win in an offline tournament and then we'll talk. Online is online. well since these are played on NA and latency affects both players I'll say Gosuuser is outclassing Life pretty badly right now, hell he looks like he can win a GSL easily. Code S seed for Gosuuser! I want to bite, but I won't because I think you're joking >.>
dude have you seen how BADLY Life is getting outplayed? not even kidding
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On January 14 2013 02:42 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:39 Godwrath wrote:On January 14 2013 02:38 ragz_gt wrote:On January 14 2013 02:35 Godwrath wrote:On January 14 2013 02:27 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:24 Thurken wrote:On January 14 2013 02:20 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:15 Glubschauge wrote:On January 14 2013 02:14 nomyx wrote:On January 14 2013 02:11 Forikorder wrote:
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he 3-0d him didnt he?
winning one series agaisnt a good player doesnt make you the best in the world Of course not, but you can't say he's bad when he's got the results to prove himself. He's the best American Zerg out there with better ZvZ / ZvT than stephano. I know people don't like him because he's zerg but he has the results to back him up scarlett... Is not American. Please, don't start with your north america is not part of america (i.e a north american is not an american) non sens. Ok you don't like to be called american. Get over it. It's like when a US citizen talk about football, when nearly everyone else in the world understand a different meaning with this word. Good God... America is part of North America, not the other way around. I am North American, not American. I am Canadian, not American. It isn't complicated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmericasAmerica is fucking America. Whatever you are speaking about is just the word use to call people from the different countries on America. Calling somebody American is not wrong, it's just innacurate if you are trying to speak about countries. Trying to argue that you are not American is like saying Nigerians are not Africans. Yes, semantics are a bitch, but try to not get so offended about stupid stuff like that. You are mixing up America[bold] s[/bold] and America. Happens, let it go. Americas = America Read the entry if you need to, and you will understand why being spanish America is just one continent for us and how we refer to them ;P No, you didn't read it properly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#English_usage+ Show Spoiler +English usage
People who are not connected with the United States rarely call themselves American, but the word is sometimes used by Latin Americans when they are speaking English because they also consider themselves American, and feel that using the term solely for the United States misappropriates it. When using the word as a demonym, the English-speaking world uses American primarily to refer to a citizen or national of the United States of America. For instance, Canadians abroad typically resent being referred to as Americans, but some have protested the use of American as a national demonym.
Nup.
+ Show Spoiler +but the word is sometimes used by Latin Americans when they are speaking English because they also consider themselves American, and feel that using the term solely for the United States misappropriates it.
+ Show Spoiler +Spanish usage
In Spanish, América is a single continent composed of the subcontinents of Sudamérica and Norteamérica, the land bridge of Centroamérica, and the islands of the Antillas. Americano/a in Spanish refers to a person from América in a similar way that europeo or europea refers to a person from Europa. The terms sudamericano/a, centroamericano/a, antillano/a and norteamericano/a can be used to more specifically refer to the location where a person may live.
Citizens of the United States of America are normally referred to by the term estadounidense (rough literal translation: "United Statesian") instead of americano or americana, and the country's name itself is often translated as Estados Unidos de Norteamérica (United States of North America). Also, the term norteamericano (North American) may refer to a citizen of the United States. This term is primarily used to refer to citizens of the United States, rarely those of other North American countries.[61]
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On January 14 2013 02:39 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:38 ragz_gt wrote:On January 14 2013 02:35 Godwrath wrote:On January 14 2013 02:27 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:24 Thurken wrote:On January 14 2013 02:20 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:15 Glubschauge wrote:On January 14 2013 02:14 nomyx wrote:On January 14 2013 02:11 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 02:09 nomyx wrote:[quote] [quote] I beg to differ. He 4-0d MVP, one of the best SC2 players. he 3-0d him didnt he? winning one series agaisnt a good player doesnt make you the best in the world Of course not, but you can't say he's bad when he's got the results to prove himself. He's the best American Zerg out there with better ZvZ / ZvT than stephano. I know people don't like him because he's zerg but he has the results to back him up scarlett... Is not American. Please, don't start with your north america is not part of america (i.e a north american is not an american) non sens. Ok you don't like to be called american. Get over it. It's like when a US citizen talk about football, when nearly everyone else in the world understand a different meaning with this word. Good God... America is part of North America, not the other way around. I am North American, not American. I am Canadian, not American. It isn't complicated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmericasAmerica is fucking America. Whatever you are speaking about is just the word use to call people from the different countries on America. Calling somebody American is not wrong, it's just innacurate if you are trying to speak about countries. Trying to argue that you are not American is like saying Nigerians are not Africans. Yes, semantics are a bitch, but try to not get so offended about stupid stuff like that. You are mixing up America[bold] s[/bold] and America. Happens, let it go. Americas = America Read the entry if you need to, and you will understand why being spanish America is just one continent for us and how we refer to them ;P
Holy shit this happens every time.
In the Western Hemisphere, elementary school students are taught the seven continents Asia, Africa, Europe, North America, South America, Australia/Oceania, and Antarctica. Elsewhere the two Americas are combined into America (and in some places, Europe and Asia are combined as well). People in the Western Hemisphere never use "America" to refer to the continents (preferring "the Americas") while people in Europe do.
It's not that complicated. We accept that "fanny" means something different in England from what it does in the US, but we can't comprehend that in one area of the world, with its own version of the language, calls something different from another area of the world with its own version of the language?
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Back from dinner and Goswser leads with 2-0, VOD time tomorrow :D
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 14 2013 02:42 Yonnua wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:41 Foudzing wrote:On January 14 2013 02:37 legaton wrote:
Damn, Millenium are the best (foreign) talent scouts in SC2:
- Buying HuK before he become huge.
- Developing Stephano's talents
- Buying Gowser You forget: - buying Feast before he done anything, then he got 4th in one of the most stacked tournament ever - buying ForGG before he done any significative result, now he's one of the best terran especially in TvZ OSL championship not a significant result?
He won an MSL, not an OSL. And he did this in Brood War, not SC2. So no, not really.
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They're going to go to Paris. Wonder if they'll put them up at the Hilton in Paris, a.k.a. Paris Hilton 
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On January 14 2013 02:42 MangoMountain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:41 Foudzing wrote:On January 14 2013 02:37 legaton wrote:
Damn, Millenium are the best (foreign) talent scouts in SC2:
- Buying HuK before he become huge.
- Developing Stephano's talents
- Buying Gowser You forget: - buying Feast before he done anything, then he got 4th in one of the most stacked tournament ever - buying ForGG before he done any significative result, now he's one of the best terran especially in TvZ Forgg is not one of the best terrans and never was
you might want to rewatch DH valencia
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I still think Life 3-2 Goswser
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Damn, okay. Life did tons of damage there somehow
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Can we stop clogging up this thread with aruments about Canada and American geography? We need to focus on whining about cross-server latency.
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On January 14 2013 02:43 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:On January 14 2013 02:40 ref4 wrote:On January 14 2013 02:38 Derez wrote:On January 14 2013 02:37 nomyx wrote:On January 14 2013 02:34 HugzForL wrote:
Im gonna laugh my ass off if Goswser 3-0 MVP and 3-0 Life. Even if he won the GSL, people will still say he is bad and a patch zerg. Win in an offline tournament and then we'll talk. Online is online. well since these are played on NA and latency affects both players I'll say Gosuuser is outclassing Life pretty badly right now, hell he looks like he can win a GSL easily. Code S seed for Gosuuser! I want to bite, but I won't because I think you're joking >.> dude have you seen how BADLY Life is getting outplayed? not even kidding
Well, I would say that the outplaying is Life just going for 1 very agressive pool, and falling behind because of it, and second doing an all in, and just failing, dying to the counter attack, I don't get why he plays so aggressively.
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On January 14 2013 02:44 revel8 wrote:
Can we stop clogging up this thread with aruments about Canada and American geography? We need to focus on whining about cross-server latency.
No we need more patchzerg accusations before discrediting wins with lag
And possibly a flame war with stephano fanboys over no.1 foreign zerg.
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On January 14 2013 02:44 Kentredenite wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:39 Godwrath wrote:On January 14 2013 02:38 ragz_gt wrote:On January 14 2013 02:35 Godwrath wrote:On January 14 2013 02:27 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:24 Thurken wrote:On January 14 2013 02:20 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:15 Glubschauge wrote:On January 14 2013 02:14 nomyx wrote:On January 14 2013 02:11 Forikorder wrote:
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he 3-0d him didnt he?
winning one series agaisnt a good player doesnt make you the best in the world Of course not, but you can't say he's bad when he's got the results to prove himself. He's the best American Zerg out there with better ZvZ / ZvT than stephano. I know people don't like him because he's zerg but he has the results to back him up scarlett... Is not American. Please, don't start with your north america is not part of america (i.e a north american is not an american) non sens. Ok you don't like to be called american. Get over it. It's like when a US citizen talk about football, when nearly everyone else in the world understand a different meaning with this word. Good God... America is part of North America, not the other way around. I am North American, not American. I am Canadian, not American. It isn't complicated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmericasAmerica is fucking America. Whatever you are speaking about is just the word use to call people from the different countries on America. Calling somebody American is not wrong, it's just innacurate if you are trying to speak about countries. Trying to argue that you are not American is like saying Nigerians are not Africans. Yes, semantics are a bitch, but try to not get so offended about stupid stuff like that. You are mixing up America[bold] s[/bold] and America. Happens, let it go. Americas = America Read the entry if you need to, and you will understand why being spanish America is just one continent for us and how we refer to them ;P Holy shit this happens every time. In the Western Hemisphere, elementary school students are taught the seven continents Asia, Africa, Europe, North America, South America, Australia/Oceania, and Antarctica. Elsewhere the two Americas are combined into America (and in some places, Europe and Asia are combined as well). People in the Western Hemisphere never use "America" to refer to the continents (preferring "the Americas") while people in Europe do. It's not that complicated. We accept that "fanny" means something different in England from what it does in the US, but we can't comprehend that in one area of the world, with its own version of the language, calls something different from another area of the world with its own version of the language?
Can you all please stop already?
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On January 14 2013 02:43 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:42 ragz_gt wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Godwrath wrote:On January 14 2013 02:38 ragz_gt wrote:On January 14 2013 02:35 Godwrath wrote:On January 14 2013 02:27 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:24 Thurken wrote:On January 14 2013 02:20 Dexington wrote:On January 14 2013 02:15 Glubschauge wrote:On January 14 2013 02:14 nomyx wrote:
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Of course not, but you can't say he's bad when he's got the results to prove himself.
He's the best American Zerg out there with better ZvZ / ZvT than stephano. I know people don't like him because he's zerg but he has the results to back him up
scarlett... Is not American. Please, don't start with your north america is not part of america (i.e a north american is not an american) non sens. Ok you don't like to be called american. Get over it. It's like when a US citizen talk about football, when nearly everyone else in the world understand a different meaning with this word. Good God... America is part of North America, not the other way around. I am North American, not American. I am Canadian, not American. It isn't complicated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmericasAmerica is fucking America. Whatever you are speaking about is just the word use to call people from the different countries on America. Calling somebody American is not wrong, it's just innacurate if you are trying to speak about countries. Trying to argue that you are not American is like saying Nigerians are not Africans. Yes, semantics are a bitch, but try to not get so offended about stupid stuff like that. You are mixing up America[bold] s[/bold] and America. Happens, let it go. Americas = America Read the entry if you need to, and you will understand why being spanish America is just one continent for us and how we refer to them ;P No, you didn't read it properly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#English_usage+ Show Spoiler +English usage
People who are not connected with the United States rarely call themselves American, but the word is sometimes used by Latin Americans when they are speaking English because they also consider themselves American, and feel that using the term solely for the United States misappropriates it. When using the word as a demonym, the English-speaking world uses American primarily to refer to a citizen or national of the United States of America. For instance, Canadians abroad typically resent being referred to as Americans, but some have protested the use of American as a national demonym. Nup. + Show Spoiler +but the word is sometimes used by Latin Americans when they are speaking English because they also consider themselves American, and feel that using the term solely for the United States misappropriates it. Spanish usage
In Spanish, América is a single continent composed of the subcontinents of Sudamérica and Norteamérica, the land bridge of Centroamérica, and the islands of the Antillas. Americano/a in Spanish refers to a person from América in a similar way that europeo or europea refers to a person from Europa. The terms sudamericano/a, centroamericano/a, antillano/a and norteamericano/a can be used to more specifically refer to the location where a person may live.
Citizens of the United States of America are normally referred to by the term estadounidense (rough literal translation: "United Statesian") instead of americano or americana, and the country's name itself is often translated as Estados Unidos de Norteamérica (United States of North America). Also, the term norteamericano (North American) may refer to a citizen of the United States. This term is primarily used to refer to citizens of the United States, rarely those of other North American countries.[61]
Scarlett is not from Latin American and you are not writing in Spanish though.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 14 2013 02:43 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:On January 14 2013 02:40 ref4 wrote:On January 14 2013 02:38 Derez wrote:On January 14 2013 02:37 nomyx wrote:On January 14 2013 02:34 HugzForL wrote:
Im gonna laugh my ass off if Goswser 3-0 MVP and 3-0 Life. Even if he won the GSL, people will still say he is bad and a patch zerg. Win in an offline tournament and then we'll talk. Online is online. well since these are played on NA and latency affects both players I'll say Gosuuser is outclassing Life pretty badly right now, hell he looks like he can win a GSL easily. Code S seed for Gosuuser! I want to bite, but I won't because I think you're joking >.> dude have you seen how BADLY Life is getting outplayed? not even kidding
I've seen Life lose two games not looking half as good as he usually does. Goswser might be playing better right here, but he is hardly the superior player out of the two.
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On January 14 2013 02:41 Yonnua wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:39 Schelim wrote:
i'll be damned if Gowswswsswswwswser beats Life and goes to Paris and then wins that as well. not only is he zerg, he is also american and a pretty unknown player. really crappy situation for ironsquid management imo. Yeah so bad for a French tournament to have a player from a French team in the finals - bet they'll be kicking themselves for that one! :D
oh, i hadn't realized Gowswser (seriously get a new name lol) was on Millenium. that does change things.
i realize a lot of people like foreigners more than koreans simply for being foreigners for some reason, but i don't know about someone nobody outside of the US has presumably ever heard about before this tournament? or at least not paid much if any attention to. i watch too much starcraft and check the results of a ton more and he hasn't really popped up much, although i've had his name in the back of my head from MLG open brackets and stuff like that for a while now. if it was Idra that was gonna go to paris i'd agree wholeheartedly, but i'm not so sure about this guy.
no disrespect to gosu user btw, his play has certainly been quite impressive and it's not his fault he plays zerg.
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