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memcpy
United States459 Posts
On January 13 2013 10:26 SC2Kerri wrote: I know its Iron Squid Thread here, but you closed my thread, and i dunno why, if we can speak about that, tell me where on TL thx Balance thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255254 | ||
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SC2Kerri
France91 Posts
but thanks for the advice | ||
TommyP
United States6231 Posts
and oh damn the quaterfinals are tomorrow???!!! | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On January 13 2013 10:59 TommyP wrote: Looking at the brackets, I would say DRG vs. Life finals is the most probable thing. But any of these players could beat each other on a given day with the possible exception of Goswser (no offense) and oh damn the quaterfinals are tomorrow???!!! Yes sir ! 18:00 CET | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + All 4 zergs won It may be getting old but I'm still really happy the foreign players are still representing against Koreans -- despite what any of the nay sayers might...nay say. | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On January 13 2013 12:12 X3GoldDot wrote: lol wut parting lost to nestea Yeah it was a crazy fuck-the-metagame series with cheeses, trade bases, etc. Very entertaining ! | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On January 13 2013 12:15 Boucot wrote: Yeah it was a crazy fuck-the-metagame series with cheeses, trade bases, etc. Very entertaining ! A testament to the state of SC2 when standard games have us all banging our heads against our desks but weird stuff and cheese gets us excited. | ||
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blacklist_member
Australia318 Posts
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On January 13 2013 10:25 SC2Kerri wrote: i agree with you, i am one of the Iron Squid French Casteur, Anoss, and i dont understand why we dont speak about that, to help Blizzard to open eyes I really think its not a unit problem, the most part is on the map control, Zerg see all, on Daybreak or Cloud its like you can see so easily what go outside ... Look if a Terran or a Protoss go aggressive, you will see some gateway or barackement hide on the map, Zerg, you do a pool if you dont see UNIT or DRONE you cant know if its aggressive or macro.. he dosnt make any sens... Zerg is the most difficult to read, and its zerg who has the best map control ( i know Zerg is a reactive race so he need them, but may be not so much...) Nonsense. I bet you're one of those foreign players who plays the race that seems to be loved most by the foreigners. Not that I have no opinion on balance in general, but today's games were nothing to do with balance. Nestea v. Parting: Nestea chessed his way against Parting and in the last game Parting kept banging his head against spines instead of taking out undefended expansions. Hardly an indication of balance Scarlet v. Symbol: Self-explantory MMA v.Stephano: MMA in current shape simply isn't relevant discussing top-level play. Do you think MMA would have a better chance against T or P? I don't. DRG v. Creator: Extremely close games that could have gone either way. These two have exchanged quite a few wins and losses in the past. No one would be surprised the result went either way and no one should attempt to deduce balance from these games if one's being honest. Besides which, there is a designated balance forum. (Which was created when TL declared how protoss was underpowered, coincidently). | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 13 2013 15:49 usethis2 wrote: Nonsense. I bet you're one of those foreign players who plays the race that seems to be loved most by the foreigners. Not that I have no opinion on balance in general, but today's games were nothing to do with balance. Nestea v. Parting: Nestea chessed his way against Parting and in the last game Parting kept banging his head against spines instead of taking out undefended expansions. Hardly an indication of balance Scarlet v. Symbol: Self-explantory MMA v.Stephano: MMA in current shape simply isn't relevant discussing top-level play. Do you think MMA would have a better chance against T or P? I don't. DRG v. Creator: Extremely close games that could have gone either way. These two have exchanged quite a few wins and losses in the past. No one would be surprised the result went either way and no one should attempt to deduce balance from these games if one's being honest. Besides which, there is a designated balance forum. (Which was created when TL declared how protoss was underpowered, coincidently). To be honest MMA's TvT and TvP have looked better than his TvZ lately. Although it's pretty limited what we see from him it did look at least Code A level. He keeps losing to zergs in everything. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
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usethis2
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SC2Kerri
France91 Posts
On January 13 2013 15:49 usethis2 wrote: Nonsense. I bet you're one of those foreign players who plays the race that seems to be loved most by the foreigners. Not that I have no opinion on balance in general, but today's games were nothing to do with balance. Nestea v. Parting: Nestea chessed his way against Parting and in the last game Parting kept banging his head against spines instead of taking out undefended expansions. Hardly an indication of balance Scarlet v. Symbol: Self-explantory MMA v.Stephano: MMA in current shape simply isn't relevant discussing top-level play. Do you think MMA would have a better chance against T or P? I don't. DRG v. Creator: Extremely close games that could have gone either way. These two have exchanged quite a few wins and losses in the past. No one would be surprised the result went either way and no one should attempt to deduce balance from these games if one's being honest. Besides which, there is a designated balance forum. (Which was created when TL declared how protoss was underpowered, coincidently). I'm sorry but how you can say that ? it's cause of this kind of reflection that we can't speak about balance on TL... First, what i play its not important, what you play too, i am a Caster i see a lot of game all day, and i see just Zerg in final, its a fact.. i m sure you are the first to whine against ZvZ.. demi ZvZ final ZvZ... what's the problem? you play zerg and loose against terran or protoss on ladder so you can't accepct we have a problem ? come on open your eyes plz Secondly i speak about timing and vision, you make a resumed of the 4 game... thx, but i casted all i remenber too  you dont see that Parting, at the end thought ok... i can't go Forge expo.. its not safe, cause Nestea played cheesed a lot ? sound legit ? why not .. so explain to me, why MMA can't win with a double 11 non scouted... just with the overlord.. counter just with 15 drone.. and he knows at the second when B2 is on the natural...seriously...and yes now i know for the " balannce" forum, but its a thread all ready open, with a lot of different discuss inside, its not interessant, i will make a thread but on bnet ++ | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
But really, people should watch the games, they were particularly good. I also like what pairs we get for the next round. As for Nestea - Nestea loves this tournament. Last time he made Ro4, he went to Paris, people treated him like God, he was enjoying every minute of it. The grin never left his face, even after losses. So he does everything he can to get there again. I bet if someone asks Nestea what tournament in his long career was the most fun for him, he'd say Iron Squid 1. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
 poor marineking | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On January 13 2013 12:12 X3GoldDot wrote: lol wut parting lost to nestea Spinecrawlers are good. More spinecrawlers are very good. Even more spinecrawlers are even better. If you watch the final game, you'll understand. | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
On January 13 2013 19:11 SC2Kerri wrote: I'm sorry but how you can say that ? it's cause of this kind of reflection that we can't speak about balance on TL... First, what i play its not important, what you play too, i am a Caster i see a lot of game all day, and i see just Zerg in final, its a fact.. i m sure you are the first to whine against ZvZ.. demi ZvZ final ZvZ... what's the problem? you play zerg and loose against terran or protoss on ladder so you can't accepct we have a problem ? come on open your eyes plz Secondly i speak about timing and vision, you make a resumed of the 4 game... thx, but i casted all i remenber too you dont see that Parting, at the end thought ok... i can't go Forge expo.. its not safe, cause Nestea played cheesed a lot ? sound legit ? why not .. so explain to me, why MMA can't win with a double 11 non scouted... just with the overlord.. counter just with 15 drone.. and he knows at the second when B2 is on the natural...seriously...and yes now i know for the " balannce" forum, but its a thread all ready open, with a lot of different discuss inside, its not interessant, i will make a thread but on bnet ++ sorry, but this is non-sense. seems like you don't know nothing about the game lol also, there is a thread for balance discussion. | ||
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Thurken
961 Posts
On January 13 2013 20:26 figq wrote: Oops, French people on the streets protesting against zerg - gg Blizzard. tt But really, people should watch the games, they were particularly good. I also like what pairs we get for the next round. As for Nestea - Nestea loves this tournament. Last time he made Ro4, he went to Paris, people treated him like God, he was enjoying every minute of it. The grin never left his face, even after losses. So he does everything he can to get there again. I bet if someone asks Nestea what tournament in his long career was the most fun for him, he'd say Iron Squid 1. He said something like that (among the foreign tournament though) On January 13 2013 20:26 SC2Kerri wrote: I'm sorry but how you can say that ? it's cause of this kind of reflection that we can't speak about balance on TL... First, what i play its not important, what you play too, i am a Caster i see a lot of game all day, and i see just Zerg in final, its a fact.. i m sure you are the first to whine against ZvZ.. demi ZvZ final ZvZ... what's the problem? you play zerg and loose against terran or protoss on ladder so you can't accepct we have a problem ? come on open your eyes plz Secondly i speak about timing and vision, you make a resumed of the 4 game... thx, but i casted all i remenber too you dont see that Parting, at the end thought ok... i can't go Forge expo.. its not safe, cause Nestea played cheesed a lot ? sound legit ? why not .. so explain to me, why MMA can't win with a double 11 non scouted... just with the overlord.. counter just with 15 drone.. and he knows at the second when B2 is on the natural...seriously... and yes now i know for the " balannce" forum, but its a thread all ready open, with a lot of different discuss inside, its not interessant, i will make a thread but on bnet ++ MMA 11 rax in game two won him the game. MMA 11 rax in game three didn't win him the game because Stephano was expecting it (even though he doesn't scout, you see he has his probes ready and start zerglings much faster) and had a great response, but it put MMA ahead. After that MMA was leading until he made bad decisions like not retreating in the fight versus Stepĥano's roach in the middlegame for example. The best player won that game, but if both were even in skill, MMA would have won that game. In the last game, MMA failed completely. About Parting vs Nestea, you honestly can't use balance here. The games were surprising, entertaining and Parting should have won. Maybe you could say that zerg require less practice than terran so foreigners tends to be zerg (or protoss) and korean terrans are more easily burned out or injured so at the end of this season/year zergs won more. But don't worry about protosses, they won more money than zergs in 2012 and as much big tournaments (http://www.teamliquid.net/events/ and sc2earnings if you want to make sure yourself). | ||
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totauksz
Ghana190 Posts
 go mkp. | ||
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