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On January 13 2013 07:42 howLiN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 07:29 Thurken wrote:
I will repeat myself, but the only surprising result of this ro16 was Parting vs Nestea. And this was because Parting throw it away hard. This means +1 zerg and -1 protoss for perfect race represented ro4. Unfortunately, this also mean countless pages of whinning You expected Goswser over Mvp? MKP over HerO?
I didn't expect a 3-0 for Gowser, but he was favored, considering the time it was played, their relative matchup strength and their preparation. People seems to underestimate Gowser a lot (or overestimate MVP online performance), but look at his recent results (best US player, beat several top korean terran and loves series with preparation time), and MVP online results (for example, he lost to adelscott in TSL and finished fourth in the groupstage of the last ironsquid, behind idra).
MKP was also favored versus HerO, also considering MKP greatness versus protosses and HerO recent shape
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only interesting qf matchup is MKP v MC, rest is just typical sc2 from 2012
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 Balance issue is killing the hype of this amazing tournament.
I ll still watch all games tomorow, great players involved.
Go mkp for the finale !!
Btw, don't miss the stream the 26th in paris, the atmosphere is going to be unique. Even ZvZ will look exiting 
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So it's 6/8 zergs in the quarterfinals right?
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sad that theres so many ZvZ games =/
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Everything as expected, exept for Nestea. I was already impressed that he made Code S(not with the way he played), but beating Parting in a BO5 is even more of a surprise.
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On January 13 2013 07:49 usethis2 wrote:
I don't know who Goswser is but MKP over Hero, absolutely. Hero is one of the most overrated protoss along with MC.
I laughed a little, good joke.
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MKP vs Stephano finals in Paris.
I want to believe !
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Wow, 6 Zergs, 1 Terran, 1 Protoss in the money... really surprised that Parting lost to Nestea, but well played DRG for taking down Creator.
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On January 13 2013 07:42 howLiN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 07:29 Thurken wrote:
I will repeat myself, but the only surprising result of this ro16 was Parting vs Nestea. And this was because Parting throw it away hard. This means +1 zerg and -1 protoss for perfect race represented ro4. Unfortunately, this also mean countless pages of whinning You expected Goswser over Mvp? MKP over HerO?
yes to both
creator-drg was played 27 dec, i found out the results before, sadface
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On January 12 2013 20:39 Inzan1ty wrote:
woah, go go Symbol. Scarlett gets too much hype =D
PartinG 3-0 Nestea (I feel Soultrain wants to show off and promote himself for Kespa teams )
Scarlett 1-3 Symbol (well Symbol wants to get a team too)
Stephano 3-1 MMA (uhm...how times changed =(.)
DRG 3-2 Creator (jeez tough one to call)
No she doesn't =P
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holy shit scarlett is awesome
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Where we can speak about balance on TL Thread ? One more time we have 3 Zerg on 4 players, its obvious we have a problem, i try to speak about the Zerg map control, but my thread was closed.. why ?
Look, Stephano VS MMA, Stephano scout just with overlord and countered a double 11 racks.. How a double 11 can be counter against an hatch first 15 pool 16 without scouting ? its the most all in build in Terran, is like you can counter a 6 8 10 pool with a cc first or one rack expo, with expo build on the b2 without scouting.. or counter 6 8 10 pool with a forge expo.. Parting didn't succed any forge expo against Nestea...
Seriously is not some troll we need to speak about that, and the entire zerg map control in early mid and late game with creep changelin and over, after 10 min you see more than half of the map constanly.. how you want Terran or Protoss win if all move is scouted ? a Terran cannot see the ling go on his B3 without Xel naga, same for Protoss.. Zerg domination start to really sucks..
But seriously, when i can post a thread with a real reflection ??
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starcraft 2 has lost its fun to me. i dont enjoy watching zerg matchups anymore, so sad that in each friggin tournament you see the same 80% zerg domination. i am fuckin tired of it. it's really frustrating, goddamnit. sigh, i dont know what to say more...
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i agree with you, i am one of the Iron Squid French Casteur, Anoss, and i dont understand why we dont speak about that, to help Blizzard to open eyes
I really think its not a unit problem, the most part is on the map control, Zerg see all, on Daybreak or Cloud its like you can see so easily what go outside ... Look if a Terran or a Protoss go aggressive, you will see some gateway or barackement hide on the map, Zerg, you do a pool if you dont see UNIT or DRONE you cant know if its aggressive or macro.. he dosnt make any sens... Zerg is the most difficult to read, and its zerg who has the best map control ( i know Zerg is a reactive race so he need them, but may be not so much...)
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I know its Iron Squid Thread here, but you closed my thread, and i dunno why, if we can speak about that, tell me where on TL thx
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On January 13 2013 10:25 SC2Kerri wrote:
i agree with you, i am one of the Iron Squid French Casteur, Anoss, and i dont understand why we dont speak about that, to help Blizzard to open eyes
I really think its not a unit problem, the most part is on the map control, Zerg see all, on Daybreak or Cloud its like you can see so easily what go outside ... Look if a Terran or a Protoss go aggressive, you will see some gateway or barackement hide on the map, Zerg, you do a pool if you dont see UNIT or DRONE you cant know if its aggressive or macro.. he dosnt make any sens... Zerg is the most difficult to read, and its zerg who has the best map control ( i know Zerg is a reactive race so he need them, but may be not so much...)
This guy is legit. I love you Anoss
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On January 13 2013 10:25 SC2Kerri wrote:
i agree with you, i am one of the Iron Squid French Casteur, Anoss, and i dont understand why we dont speak about that, to help Blizzard to open eyes
I really think its not a unit problem, the most part is on the map control, Zerg see all, on Daybreak or Cloud its like you can see so easily what go outside ... Look if a Terran or a Protoss go aggressive, you will see some gateway or barackement hide on the map, Zerg, you do a pool if you dont see UNIT or DRONE you cant know if its aggressive or macro.. he dosnt make any sens... Zerg is the most difficult to read, and its zerg who has the best map control ( i know Zerg is a reactive race so he need them, but may be not so much...)
Hey, I think it's better if you go to the official Blizzard forums and make a thread there.
TL's standards are inconsistent when it comes to talk about balance and it varies depending on the Moderator so you might not have much luck unless you're a professional player or well-known community figure.
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