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zephiK
Profile Joined March 2012
United States372 Posts
December 23 2012 03:03 GMT
#121
JYP is singing hahaha nice
yeah they are making him sing he sung for like 5 seconds
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9027 Posts
December 23 2012 03:03 GMT
#122
man up JYP!!.
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
December 23 2012 03:05 GMT
#123
On December 23 2012 11:24 gurrpp wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 23 2012 10:33 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 08:57 rasnj wrote:
On December 23 2012 08:42 nmetasch wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:56 opterown wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:01 nmetasch wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:29 OfficerRobert wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:13 faiza wrote:
Any word on who will be doing the English cast?


same casters as yesterday


Which were?

supernovamaniac and whiplash


Never heard of either. They were on site though right? What happened to EGTL setting up proleague casts, did they lose the gig?


Over the last couple of hours Incontrol made some tweets that indicate that supernovamaniac (snm) and whiplash are on site and that Incontrol is not too happy with the situation. I assume this indicates that EG at least did not call for the current setup (otherwise I don't think Incontrol would voice his opinion as candidly as this):

+ Show Spoiler [Tweets] +

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
What's better: online commentators that are charismatic, renowned and knowledgeable or two unproven relatively unknown on site commentators?

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
Seriously curious. On site is HUGE but I am wondering how huge given the disparity I am seeing.

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
Lotsa people saying "new blood" and "must start somewhere" but to me starting by casting the pro league is like doing the nfl playoffs 1st

Matt Mav ‏@Mavsatwit
@EGiNcontroL That is a loaded comparison. Well known casters were once unproven as well.

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
@Mavsatwit and casted smaller events/streams building themselves up to the honor if casting the major leagues...

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
@Mavsatwit and if you think I was loaded.. What defense do you have for last nights cast? Was I unfair ?


I don't really know what supernovamaniac (snm) and whiplash are up to these days but snm used to hang around Korean streams (mostly BW) and helped moderate and often translated Korean interviews live in chat. I get the impression that he is not that excited about SC2, but I'm not completely sure on that. Whiplash used to be a part-time NA protoss player on VT. He took part in some online cups and some of the early MLGs, but have never been successful and I suppose he is retired now.

It's kinda funny to read these responses. EG and other guys were really defensive after the first EGTL-managed casts gotten some criticism for not prepared casters who can't even recognize the KeSPA players and don't know how well they played before. They said it was all setup up in hurry and they didn't have much time to prepare. From what I've read yesterday, snm and Whiplash just flew to Korea and walked to the studio basically from the Airport, it was all last minute like EGTL stuff. If anyone else feels he can do better job, he could took the IEG offer and be there on site, preparing all week just for Proleague. These guys were active in the community since the BW days so they naturally wanted to help even if they're not pros because no else was able to do it live.

iNcontroL unfortunately lacks some background info himself because snm has been casting Proleague few times in previous seasons just by reastreaming, there was only few people watching at the time, including me few times and the feedback was generally positive at the time. Besides that he always provided these live translations, hopefully he can get cleaner Korean feed this time so he can translate it all again. Also snm casted OSL finals for OGN on the site, officially, there would be no English stream if not for him. So it's not like he's never done this before. It's just hard to start solo casting without much time to prepare when he's not supposed to be the main analytical caster, I think he just wants to be the Korean type hype caster and nothing wrong about that. Just give him another chance and time to improve.


Speaking of former proleague restreamers, I want sayle. Where did that handsome devil go?


I sure do miss him more than anyone in the entire scene...
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 23 2012 03:06 GMT
#124
so, its really symptomatic, that the only foreign team doenst feature foreigners, isnt it?
Broodwar for life!
ScienceNotBusiness
Profile Joined March 2012
United States91 Posts
December 23 2012 03:07 GMT
#125
Go Koreans vs Koreans!
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
December 23 2012 03:08 GMT
#126
On December 23 2012 12:06 Cele wrote:
so, its really symptomatic, that the only foreign team doenst feature foreigners, isnt it?


Symptomatic of what? Don't use words you don't understand please. It makes the meaning behind your statement unclear.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 23 2012 03:09 GMT
#127
Well, I'm conflicted about this one.
Zero fighting.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 23 2012 03:09 GMT
#128
On December 23 2012 12:08 nmetasch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 12:06 Cele wrote:
so, its really symptomatic, that the only foreign team doenst feature foreigners, isnt it?


Symptomatic of what? Don't use words you don't understand please. It makes the meaning behind your statement unclear.



i used the word pretty fitting, but you should be able to figure out for yourself, for what it is symptomatic in my opinion.
Broodwar for life!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 23 2012 03:10 GMT
#129
On December 23 2012 12:09 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 12:08 nmetasch wrote:
On December 23 2012 12:06 Cele wrote:
so, its really symptomatic, that the only foreign team doenst feature foreigners, isnt it?

Symptomatic of what? Don't use words you don't understand please. It makes the meaning behind your statement unclear.

i used the word pretty fitting, but you should be able to figure out for yourself, for what it is symptomatic in my opinion.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/symptomatic
i don't really get it lol
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 03:11:13
December 23 2012 03:10 GMT
#130
Im thinking EGTL will win 4-3 with losses from Zenio, JYP, and Puma
#TheOneTrueDong
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
December 23 2012 03:10 GMT
#131
On December 23 2012 12:08 nmetasch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 12:06 Cele wrote:
so, its really symptomatic, that the only foreign team doenst feature foreigners, isnt it?


Symptomatic of what? Don't use words you don't understand please. It makes the meaning behind your statement unclear.

makes sense to me
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 23 2012 03:10 GMT
#132
On December 23 2012 12:05 nmetasch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 11:24 gurrpp wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 23 2012 10:33 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 08:57 rasnj wrote:
On December 23 2012 08:42 nmetasch wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:56 opterown wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:01 nmetasch wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:29 OfficerRobert wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:13 faiza wrote:
Any word on who will be doing the English cast?


same casters as yesterday


Which were?

supernovamaniac and whiplash


Never heard of either. They were on site though right? What happened to EGTL setting up proleague casts, did they lose the gig?


Over the last couple of hours Incontrol made some tweets that indicate that supernovamaniac (snm) and whiplash are on site and that Incontrol is not too happy with the situation. I assume this indicates that EG at least did not call for the current setup (otherwise I don't think Incontrol would voice his opinion as candidly as this):

+ Show Spoiler [Tweets] +

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
What's better: online commentators that are charismatic, renowned and knowledgeable or two unproven relatively unknown on site commentators?

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
Seriously curious. On site is HUGE but I am wondering how huge given the disparity I am seeing.

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
Lotsa people saying "new blood" and "must start somewhere" but to me starting by casting the pro league is like doing the nfl playoffs 1st

Matt Mav ‏@Mavsatwit
@EGiNcontroL That is a loaded comparison. Well known casters were once unproven as well.

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
@Mavsatwit and casted smaller events/streams building themselves up to the honor if casting the major leagues...

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
@Mavsatwit and if you think I was loaded.. What defense do you have for last nights cast? Was I unfair ?


I don't really know what supernovamaniac (snm) and whiplash are up to these days but snm used to hang around Korean streams (mostly BW) and helped moderate and often translated Korean interviews live in chat. I get the impression that he is not that excited about SC2, but I'm not completely sure on that. Whiplash used to be a part-time NA protoss player on VT. He took part in some online cups and some of the early MLGs, but have never been successful and I suppose he is retired now.

It's kinda funny to read these responses. EG and other guys were really defensive after the first EGTL-managed casts gotten some criticism for not prepared casters who can't even recognize the KeSPA players and don't know how well they played before. They said it was all setup up in hurry and they didn't have much time to prepare. From what I've read yesterday, snm and Whiplash just flew to Korea and walked to the studio basically from the Airport, it was all last minute like EGTL stuff. If anyone else feels he can do better job, he could took the IEG offer and be there on site, preparing all week just for Proleague. These guys were active in the community since the BW days so they naturally wanted to help even if they're not pros because no else was able to do it live.

iNcontroL unfortunately lacks some background info himself because snm has been casting Proleague few times in previous seasons just by reastreaming, there was only few people watching at the time, including me few times and the feedback was generally positive at the time. Besides that he always provided these live translations, hopefully he can get cleaner Korean feed this time so he can translate it all again. Also snm casted OSL finals for OGN on the site, officially, there would be no English stream if not for him. So it's not like he's never done this before. It's just hard to start solo casting without much time to prepare when he's not supposed to be the main analytical caster, I think he just wants to be the Korean type hype caster and nothing wrong about that. Just give him another chance and time to improve.


Speaking of former proleague restreamers, I want sayle. Where did that handsome devil go?


I sure do miss him more than anyone in the entire scene...

The caster we deserve.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
nailujk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada27 Posts
December 23 2012 03:11 GMT
#133
On December 23 2012 11:24 gurrpp wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 23 2012 10:33 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 08:57 rasnj wrote:
On December 23 2012 08:42 nmetasch wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:56 opterown wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:01 nmetasch wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:29 OfficerRobert wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:13 faiza wrote:
Any word on who will be doing the English cast?


same casters as yesterday


Which were?

supernovamaniac and whiplash


Never heard of either. They were on site though right? What happened to EGTL setting up proleague casts, did they lose the gig?


Over the last couple of hours Incontrol made some tweets that indicate that supernovamaniac (snm) and whiplash are on site and that Incontrol is not too happy with the situation. I assume this indicates that EG at least did not call for the current setup (otherwise I don't think Incontrol would voice his opinion as candidly as this):

+ Show Spoiler [Tweets] +

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
What's better: online commentators that are charismatic, renowned and knowledgeable or two unproven relatively unknown on site commentators?

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
Seriously curious. On site is HUGE but I am wondering how huge given the disparity I am seeing.

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
Lotsa people saying "new blood" and "must start somewhere" but to me starting by casting the pro league is like doing the nfl playoffs 1st

Matt Mav ‏@Mavsatwit
@EGiNcontroL That is a loaded comparison. Well known casters were once unproven as well.

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
@Mavsatwit and casted smaller events/streams building themselves up to the honor if casting the major leagues...

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL
@Mavsatwit and if you think I was loaded.. What defense do you have for last nights cast? Was I unfair ?


I don't really know what supernovamaniac (snm) and whiplash are up to these days but snm used to hang around Korean streams (mostly BW) and helped moderate and often translated Korean interviews live in chat. I get the impression that he is not that excited about SC2, but I'm not completely sure on that. Whiplash used to be a part-time NA protoss player on VT. He took part in some online cups and some of the early MLGs, but have never been successful and I suppose he is retired now.

It's kinda funny to read these responses. EG and other guys were really defensive after the first EGTL-managed casts gotten some criticism for not prepared casters who can't even recognize the KeSPA players and don't know how well they played before. They said it was all setup up in hurry and they didn't have much time to prepare. From what I've read yesterday, snm and Whiplash just flew to Korea and walked to the studio basically from the Airport, it was all last minute like EGTL stuff. If anyone else feels he can do better job, he could took the IEG offer and be there on site, preparing all week just for Proleague. These guys were active in the community since the BW days so they naturally wanted to help even if they're not pros because no else was able to do it live.

iNcontroL unfortunately lacks some background info himself because snm has been casting Proleague few times in previous seasons just by reastreaming, there was only few people watching at the time, including me few times and the feedback was generally positive at the time. Besides that he always provided these live translations, hopefully he can get cleaner Korean feed this time so he can translate it all again. Also snm casted OSL finals for OGN on the site, officially, there would be no English stream if not for him. So it's not like he's never done this before. It's just hard to start solo casting without much time to prepare when he's not supposed to be the main analytical caster, I think he just wants to be the Korean type hype caster and nothing wrong about that. Just give him another chance and time to improve.


Speaking of former proleague restreamers, I want sayle. Where did that handsome devil go?


seconded. sayle was fantastic.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 23 2012 03:11 GMT
#134
On December 23 2012 12:06 Cele wrote:
so, its really symptomatic, that the only foreign team doenst feature foreigners, isnt it?

Yeah. That's what happens when you have a tournament that lasts for a year played live in Korea. It tends to be only accessible to people living in Korea.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
December 23 2012 03:11 GMT
#135
Are the games starting?
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 23 2012 03:11 GMT
#136
JYP was singing? All I see is the screen that says what the matchups will be.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 23 2012 03:12 GMT
#137
On December 23 2012 12:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 12:06 Cele wrote:
so, its really symptomatic, that the only foreign team doenst feature foreigners, isnt it?

Yeah. That's what happens when you have a tournament that lasts for a year played live in Korea. It tends to be only accessible to people living in Korea.

agreed, thats a huge factor too.
Broodwar for life!
alks
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada24 Posts
December 23 2012 03:12 GMT
#138
On December 23 2012 12:11 nailujk wrote:
seconded. sayle was fantastic.


hai
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
December 23 2012 03:12 GMT
#139
Have they ever sent out HuK? Hope they send out Thorzain next time.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
December 23 2012 03:12 GMT
#140
GOGOGO EG-TL!
Really looking forward to JD v Zero ZvZ on Cloud Kingdom. Really liked both zergs in BW for their individual styles.
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