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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 18 2012 11:32 GMT
#841
sniper is no life in ling control, but he doesn't make opponents play overly defensive due to thw reputation
The Bomber boy
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 18 2012 11:32 GMT
#842
I'm a fan of DRG, Leenock, Violet and to a lesser extent Sniper, but I agree, having so many zergs in the next round seems a bit too much, I guess I'll watch and root for PartinG or DRG.

Back on topic, wow, Sniper has one vicious ZvZ, he is stealing some of DRG's old aggressive tendencies.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
December 18 2012 11:37 GMT
#843
sniper is pretty good
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 18 2012 11:37 GMT
#844
Poll: Recommend Sniper vs Violet Game 1?

Yes (5)
 
71%

No (2)
 
29%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sniper vs Violet Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
December 18 2012 11:41 GMT
#845
On December 18 2012 20:18 TheBB wrote:
Blizzard Cup Group B

Sniper
      Expected score: 2.61-1.39 (sets: 6.42-3.07)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 100.00%
      Most likely place: 1st (60.71%)

viOLet
      Expected score: 2.39-1.61 (sets: 5.07-4.42)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 96.10%
      Most likely place: 3rd (56.81%)

Life
      Expected score: 2.80-1.20 (sets: 5.72-3.69)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 84.13%
      Most likely place: 2nd (69.54%)

Seed
      Expected score: 1.20-2.80 (sets: 3.69-5.72)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 19.77%
      Most likely place: 4th (80.23%)

Rain
      Expected score: 1.00-3.00 (sets: 3.00-7.00)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 0.00%
      Most likely place: 5th (100.00%)


Why is Life's chance of 1st place only at 10% when you have him at an 80% chance to beat Seed and Sniper with a 60% chance to beat Violet?
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
December 18 2012 11:44 GMT
#846
super old stephano zvz build by sniper, really wonder why its not used anymore
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 18 2012 11:44 GMT
#847
On December 18 2012 20:41 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 20:18 TheBB wrote:
Blizzard Cup Group B

Sniper
      Expected score: 2.61-1.39 (sets: 6.42-3.07)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 100.00%
      Most likely place: 1st (60.71%)

viOLet
      Expected score: 2.39-1.61 (sets: 5.07-4.42)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 96.10%
      Most likely place: 3rd (56.81%)

Life
      Expected score: 2.80-1.20 (sets: 5.72-3.69)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 84.13%
      Most likely place: 2nd (69.54%)

Seed
      Expected score: 1.20-2.80 (sets: 3.69-5.72)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 19.77%
      Most likely place: 4th (80.23%)

Rain
      Expected score: 1.00-3.00 (sets: 3.00-7.00)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 0.00%
      Most likely place: 5th (100.00%)


Why is Life's chance of 1st place only at 10% when you have him at an 80% chance to beat Seed and Sniper with a 60% chance to beat Violet?


Because Life is behind on mapscore (which is counted before H2H).
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 18 2012 11:44 GMT
#848
On December 18 2012 20:41 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 20:18 TheBB wrote:
Blizzard Cup Group B

Sniper
      Expected score: 2.61-1.39 (sets: 6.42-3.07)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 100.00%
      Most likely place: 1st (60.71%)

viOLet
      Expected score: 2.39-1.61 (sets: 5.07-4.42)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 96.10%
      Most likely place: 3rd (56.81%)

Life
      Expected score: 2.80-1.20 (sets: 5.72-3.69)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 84.13%
      Most likely place: 2nd (69.54%)

Seed
      Expected score: 1.20-2.80 (sets: 3.69-5.72)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 19.77%
      Most likely place: 4th (80.23%)

Rain
      Expected score: 1.00-3.00 (sets: 3.00-7.00)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 0.00%
      Most likely place: 5th (100.00%)

Why is Life's chance of 1st place only at 10% when you have him at an 80% chance to beat Seed and Sniper with a 60% chance to beat Violet?

Sniper beats him on map score in that case. Life's only chance of getting first is Violet beating Sniper, and then beating Violet on map score.
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
December 18 2012 11:46 GMT
#849
On December 18 2012 20:44 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 20:41 Kiyo. wrote:
On December 18 2012 20:18 TheBB wrote:
Blizzard Cup Group B

Sniper
      Expected score: 2.61-1.39 (sets: 6.42-3.07)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 100.00%
      Most likely place: 1st (60.71%)

viOLet
      Expected score: 2.39-1.61 (sets: 5.07-4.42)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 96.10%
      Most likely place: 3rd (56.81%)

Life
      Expected score: 2.80-1.20 (sets: 5.72-3.69)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 84.13%
      Most likely place: 2nd (69.54%)

Seed
      Expected score: 1.20-2.80 (sets: 3.69-5.72)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 19.77%
      Most likely place: 4th (80.23%)

Rain
      Expected score: 1.00-3.00 (sets: 3.00-7.00)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 0.00%
      Most likely place: 5th (100.00%)

Why is Life's chance of 1st place only at 10% when you have him at an 80% chance to beat Seed and Sniper with a 60% chance to beat Violet?

Sniper beats him on map score in that case. Life's only chance of getting first is Violet beating Sniper, and then beating Violet on map score.


Ah I thought Khaldor had said H2H came first, that makes sense then.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
AverageAsianDude
Profile Joined December 2012
England91 Posts
December 18 2012 11:48 GMT
#850
if violet loses and seed wins vs life he can still get through!!
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
December 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#851
sniper is so siiiiiick, havent seen violet getting owned as much in a zvz for a long time
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
December 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#852
FTFY:

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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 18 2012 11:50 GMT
#853
Sniper kinda ran violet over ;x
@QxGDarkCell ._.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#854
On December 18 2012 20:48 AverageAsianDude wrote:
if violet loses and seed wins vs life he can still get through!!


If Violet loses here and Seed wins, Seed definitely gets through.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#855
--- Nuked ---
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#856
That was decimation. How the hell did Life win vs Sniper?
The Bomber boy
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
December 18 2012 11:52 GMT
#857
Great play by Sniper.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 18 2012 11:53 GMT
#858
Poll: Recommend Sniper vs Violet Game 2?

Yes (2)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sniper vs Violet Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 18 2012 11:53 GMT
#859
wait doesn't head to head matter...so if life wins against seed he becomes the first seed?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 18 2012 11:53 GMT
#860
Blizzard Cup Group B

Sniper
      Expected score: 3.00-1.00 (sets: 7.00-2.00)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 100.00%
      Most likely place: 1st (100.00%)

Life
      Expected score: 2.80-1.20 (sets: 5.71-3.70)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 91.41%
      Most likely place: 2nd (79.72%)

viOLet
      Expected score: 2.00-2.00 (sets: 4.00-5.00)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 88.31%
      Most likely place: 3rd (88.31%)

Seed
      Expected score: 1.20-2.80 (sets: 3.70-5.71)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 20.28%
      Most likely place: 4th (79.72%)

Rain
      Expected score: 1.00-3.00 (sets: 3.00-7.00)
      Probability of achieving top 3: 0.00%
      Most likely place: 5th (100.00%)

+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
Detailed placement probabilities

5th 4th 3rd 2nd 1st
viOLet: 11.69% 88.31%
Rain: 100.00%
Sniper: 100.00%
Seed: 79.72% 20.28%
Life: 8.59% 11.69% 79.72%

Match score

0-4 1-3 2-2 3-1 4-0
viOLet: 100.00%
Rain: 100.00%
Sniper: 100.00%
Seed: 79.72% 20.28%
Life: 20.28% 79.72%

Set score

-8 -7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
viOLet: 100.00%
Rain: 100.00%
Sniper: 100.00%
Seed: 50.60% 29.12% 11.69% 8.59%
Life: 8.59% 11.69% 29.12% 50.60%


Seed vs. Life

Seed wins (20.10%):
      2-0: 8.29%
      2-1: 11.81%

Life wins (79.90%):
      2-0: 50.70%
      2-1: 29.20%

Most likely winner: Life (79.90%)
Median outcome: Seed 0-2 Life

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