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On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:
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It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do
As someone who has paid for the subscription, this is a good idea.
Damn it khan >_<
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On December 19 2012 07:03 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:
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What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? It doesn't matter if someone can or can't. It's that it just isn't worth it based on production value and commentary. Plus the fact that KeSPA is trying to force you to buy it by blocking all other means of watching it that have been available for the longest time, is just shady. I actually prefer the Korean version, but they blocked it, and apparently aren't allowing any more uploads via ESTV for foreigners. I'm not paying money for a lesser product. If I'm wrong and they are just late with the uploads, then I'm wrong. But it appears that they aren't uploading any more. Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:04 Ammanas wrote:
Wait a sec... Are you kidding me? Seriously this is where we got? It's 5 bucks. FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS for 7 months of content. Thats like one tenth of what I spend on night out. Thats exactly what I spent for one lunch. For 7 months of content. Are we seriously complaining about that? That is so ridiculous I am just left speechless. Make both English and Korean commentary available with the $5 and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. I'm not paying $5 for a stream that I'll likely mute.
Then don't. Wait for the korean VODs to be uploaded and stop complaining.
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On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:
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What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle  . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o.
You can't afford $5 for 7 months of content? Skip the starbucks tomorrow and spend it on Proleague instead, come on now It's basically free.
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On December 19 2012 07:08 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:03 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:
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Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then.
where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? It doesn't matter if someone can or can't. It's that it just isn't worth it based on production value and commentary. Plus the fact that KeSPA is trying to force you to buy it by blocking all other means of watching it that have been available for the longest time, is just shady. I actually prefer the Korean version, but they blocked it, and apparently aren't allowing any more uploads via ESTV for foreigners. I'm not paying money for a lesser product. If I'm wrong and they are just late with the uploads, then I'm wrong. But it appears that they aren't uploading any more. On December 19 2012 07:04 Ammanas wrote:
Wait a sec... Are you kidding me? Seriously this is where we got? It's 5 bucks. FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS for 7 months of content. Thats like one tenth of what I spend on night out. Thats exactly what I spent for one lunch. For 7 months of content. Are we seriously complaining about that? That is so ridiculous I am just left speechless. Make both English and Korean commentary available with the $5 and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. I'm not paying $5 for a stream that I'll likely mute. Then don't. Wait for the korean VODs to be uploaded and stop complaining.
You're missing the issue. The korean VODs are now blocked.
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On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:
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What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o.
You are on a computer. You can somehow afford $5.
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On December 19 2012 07:09 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:08 Serinox wrote:On December 19 2012 07:03 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
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where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? It doesn't matter if someone can or can't. It's that it just isn't worth it based on production value and commentary. Plus the fact that KeSPA is trying to force you to buy it by blocking all other means of watching it that have been available for the longest time, is just shady. I actually prefer the Korean version, but they blocked it, and apparently aren't allowing any more uploads via ESTV for foreigners. I'm not paying money for a lesser product. If I'm wrong and they are just late with the uploads, then I'm wrong. But it appears that they aren't uploading any more. On December 19 2012 07:04 Ammanas wrote:
Wait a sec... Are you kidding me? Seriously this is where we got? It's 5 bucks. FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS for 7 months of content. Thats like one tenth of what I spend on night out. Thats exactly what I spent for one lunch. For 7 months of content. Are we seriously complaining about that? That is so ridiculous I am just left speechless. Make both English and Korean commentary available with the $5 and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. I'm not paying $5 for a stream that I'll likely mute. Then don't. Wait for the korean VODs to be uploaded and stop complaining. You're missing the issue. The korean VODs are now blocked.
I can watch all of them on YouTube, so I don't know what you are talking about.
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On December 19 2012 07:11 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:09 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 07:08 Serinox wrote:On December 19 2012 07:03 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:
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Interesting perspective.
TL Business agenda for TSL5!
1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners
2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live
3.) Charge $5 for VODs
4.)???
5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? It doesn't matter if someone can or can't. It's that it just isn't worth it based on production value and commentary. Plus the fact that KeSPA is trying to force you to buy it by blocking all other means of watching it that have been available for the longest time, is just shady. I actually prefer the Korean version, but they blocked it, and apparently aren't allowing any more uploads via ESTV for foreigners. I'm not paying money for a lesser product. If I'm wrong and they are just late with the uploads, then I'm wrong. But it appears that they aren't uploading any more. On December 19 2012 07:04 Ammanas wrote:
Wait a sec... Are you kidding me? Seriously this is where we got? It's 5 bucks. FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS for 7 months of content. Thats like one tenth of what I spend on night out. Thats exactly what I spent for one lunch. For 7 months of content. Are we seriously complaining about that? That is so ridiculous I am just left speechless. Make both English and Korean commentary available with the $5 and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. I'm not paying $5 for a stream that I'll likely mute. Then don't. Wait for the korean VODs to be uploaded and stop complaining. You're missing the issue. The korean VODs are now blocked. I can watch all of them on YouTube, so I don't know what you are talking about.
All the ones that were free up until this point. The newer ones aren't going to be available. Unless I'm wrong and they are just taking longer to upload, if so, then I apologize.
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On December 19 2012 07:08 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:
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Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then.
where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o. You can't afford $5 for 7 months of content? Skip the starbucks tomorrow and spend it on Proleague instead, come on now It's basically free.
It's not that I can't afford it, it's that I don't see why they have any right to charge for it. This wasn't in the announcement, look to the right of the web page; IGN is rebroadcasting again, are they charging money for unlimited years of content? no. So why should a participating team do so?
It just feels like this is geared towards making money instead of improving the community.
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On December 19 2012 07:12 MyTHicaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:08 Dodgin wrote:On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
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where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o. You can't afford $5 for 7 months of content? Skip the starbucks tomorrow and spend it on Proleague instead, come on now It's basically free. It's not that I can't afford it, it's that I don't see why they have any right to charge for it. This wasn't in the announcement, look to the right of the web page; IGN is rebroadcasting again, are they charging money for unlimited years of content? no. So why should a participating team do so? It just feels like this is geared towards making money instead of improving the community.
it is their right to charge 5 dollars for it. it costs people time and money to produce. it is however not your right to recieve it for free. also, basically nobody is making money in this scene. and even if they did, what would be the harm? it would go towards producing better content for us. so dont make excuses just buy it.
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On December 19 2012 02:24 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available $5 for every PL vod...i suggest you do that before you BM the league
On December 19 2012 03:33 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available God forbid anybody pay 42 cents a month for an HD stream and vods. Afaik, HD wasn't available in the past, no?
On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks.
Ok I just paid for my first SC2 shit ever. Happy now? Fuck it. It's not about the money, it's about standards.
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On December 19 2012 07:20 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:12 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 07:08 Dodgin wrote:On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:
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Interesting perspective.
TL Business agenda for TSL5!
1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners
2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live
3.) Charge $5 for VODs
4.)???
5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o. You can't afford $5 for 7 months of content? Skip the starbucks tomorrow and spend it on Proleague instead, come on now It's basically free. It's not that I can't afford it, it's that I don't see why they have any right to charge for it. This wasn't in the announcement, look to the right of the web page; IGN is rebroadcasting again, are they charging money for unlimited years of content? no. So why should a participating team do so? It just feels like this is geared towards making money instead of improving the community. it is their right to charge 5 dollars for it. it costs people time and money to produce. it is however not your right to recieve it for free. also, basically nobody is making money in this scene. and even if they did, what would be the harm? it would go towards producing better content for us. so dont make excuses just buy it.
It's not their right, it's not their content. Please have a basic understanding of international law before you start spouting your opinion as fact, and I really hope that you're not twelve years old or this conversation is pointless.
It costs a minimal amount of money to take KESPA's stream and add audio content to it, just to let you know.
Profit is not necessarilly put towards improvement of product either, it's up to the firm what they do with it.
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On December 19 2012 07:28 MyTHicaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:20 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 07:12 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 07:08 Dodgin wrote:On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:
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maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst
Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o. You can't afford $5 for 7 months of content? Skip the starbucks tomorrow and spend it on Proleague instead, come on now It's basically free. It's not that I can't afford it, it's that I don't see why they have any right to charge for it. This wasn't in the announcement, look to the right of the web page; IGN is rebroadcasting again, are they charging money for unlimited years of content? no. So why should a participating team do so? It just feels like this is geared towards making money instead of improving the community. it is their right to charge 5 dollars for it. it costs people time and money to produce. it is however not your right to recieve it for free. also, basically nobody is making money in this scene. and even if they did, what would be the harm? it would go towards producing better content for us. so dont make excuses just buy it. It's not their right, it's not their content. Please have a basic understanding of international law before you start spouting your opinion as fact, and I really hope that you're not twelve years old or this conversation is pointless. It costs a minimal amount of money to take KESPA's stream and add audio content to it, just to let you know. Profit is not necessarilly put towards improvement of product either, it's up to the firm what they do with it.
you are not entitled to free content
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On December 19 2012 07:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 02:24 Pandemona wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available $5 for every PL vod...i suggest you do that before you BM the league Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 03:33 Alryk wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available God forbid anybody pay 42 cents a month for an HD stream and vods. Afaik, HD wasn't available in the past, no? Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Ok I just paid for my first SC2 shit ever. Happy now? Fuck it. It's not about the money, it's about standards sending a messsage.
Good on you my friend 
You are now officially saving esports
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On December 19 2012 07:28 MyTHicaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:20 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 07:12 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 07:08 Dodgin wrote:On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:
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maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst
Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o. You can't afford $5 for 7 months of content? Skip the starbucks tomorrow and spend it on Proleague instead, come on now It's basically free. It's not that I can't afford it, it's that I don't see why they have any right to charge for it. This wasn't in the announcement, look to the right of the web page; IGN is rebroadcasting again, are they charging money for unlimited years of content? no. So why should a participating team do so? It just feels like this is geared towards making money instead of improving the community. it is their right to charge 5 dollars for it. it costs people time and money to produce. it is however not your right to recieve it for free. also, basically nobody is making money in this scene. and even if they did, what would be the harm? it would go towards producing better content for us. so dont make excuses just buy it. It's not their right, it's not their content. Please have a basic understanding of international law before you start spouting your opinion as fact, and I really hope that you're not twelve years old or this conversation is pointless. It costs a minimal amount of money to take KESPA's stream and add audio content to it, just to let you know. Profit is not necessarilly put towards improvement of product either, it's up to the firm what they do with it.
Well, the price was set by KeSPA before TL/EG broadcast was announced. So, it is the content of the people who put up the 5$ subscription.
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Down with Khan! Happy to see a great team sweeped by E&L
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Wow I missed this, for shame 
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I have to say I have found my interest in watching SC2 decline greatly over the past six months or so, but I have been so friggen excited and stayed up at ungodly hours to watch every single EG/TL match.
nerd chills every match so far, especially being up 2 - 0 in the last match. My interest has been rekindled.
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now if they could only make the vods spoiler free....
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On December 19 2012 07:30 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:28 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 07:20 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 07:12 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 07:08 Dodgin wrote:On December 19 2012 07:05 MyTHicaL wrote:On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:
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Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars? Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be? This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters. Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o. You can't afford $5 for 7 months of content? Skip the starbucks tomorrow and spend it on Proleague instead, come on now It's basically free. It's not that I can't afford it, it's that I don't see why they have any right to charge for it. This wasn't in the announcement, look to the right of the web page; IGN is rebroadcasting again, are they charging money for unlimited years of content? no. So why should a participating team do so? It just feels like this is geared towards making money instead of improving the community. it is their right to charge 5 dollars for it. it costs people time and money to produce. it is however not your right to recieve it for free. also, basically nobody is making money in this scene. and even if they did, what would be the harm? it would go towards producing better content for us. so dont make excuses just buy it. It's not their right, it's not their content. Please have a basic understanding of international law before you start spouting your opinion as fact, and I really hope that you're not twelve years old or this conversation is pointless. It costs a minimal amount of money to take KESPA's stream and add audio content to it, just to let you know. Profit is not necessarilly put towards improvement of product either, it's up to the firm what they do with it. you are not entitled to free content
I laugh how you're posting this on the internet, on a very site that provides a humongous amount of FREE information and content. Thanks for making me laugh. Continue spending your allowance on video game channels, making esports about money is definately helping it!
Oh if Kespa set the 5$ then yeah I understand it, however I find it odd that foreigners are charged this price when for so many years proleague has been a free to watch event...
Whatever I've made my opinion clear and will just quit while I'm ahead. It's a shame to see this but shit happens.
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last time i checked vlc link still works albeit low quality, korean hd stream is not listed as before (it doesnt work sometimes i noticed)
i avoid english streams and download(pirate) korean vods when they become available, the copyright issue which does not allow korean stream from ogn/kespa and gom is disappointing, very disappointing.
youtube link says "not allowed in your country" but i'm not sure if this is dependent on time or not as some vods work and some vods dont.
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