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On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place.
What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then.
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On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then.
PL was around in 2003, what year is it about to be? 2013. Let's do some simple math here.
2013 - 2003 = ?
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On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then.
Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then.
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On December 19 2012 06:06 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. PL was around in 2003, what year is it about to be? 2013. Let's do some simple math here. 2013 - 2003 = ?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Proleague
The old KPGA teamleague was not proleague. And it sure as hell wasn't available for free via livestream.
If you don't want to pay, don't pay. Just don't make up stuff about the past to supplement your argument.
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On December 19 2012 06:09 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:06 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. PL was around in 2003, what year is it about to be? 2013. Let's do some simple math here. 2013 - 2003 = ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/ProleagueThe old KPGA teamleague was not proleague. And it sure as hell wasn't available for free via livestream.
2003 KTF EVERCup OnGameNet Proleague
I did a little bolding for you. Resorting to semantics after simple math failed you and continuing to fail. If you like, I can boot up my old laptop and school you in some BW as well. I'll even play random.
It doesn't matter if it was livestreamed to us back then. This isn't about livestream either. This is about the VODs being PPV. Since when was ANY PL VOD PPV? Please, refresh my memory as to whether or not this has ever occurred.
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On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. It could all be in 3D smell-o-vision and only $4.99 and I still wouldn't buy it. The sound isn't good, the production isn't good, there really haven't been any "ERHMAHGERD!" games thus far, and I haven't been a fan of the casting. TB + Bitter was okay, but I couldn't stand TLO + Adebisi. If I'm going to pay for something, I don't want to have to mute it. That's really what the $5 is for; The english commentary. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. Imagine if Sayle started charging $5 for his restream, people would laugh their ass off at him and go somewhere else.
5 bucks.. thats almost one and a half big mac.. put that money back in the matress, we all up in an economic crisis!
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On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then.
its not PPV. there is a free 360p stream. its $5 for HD and VODs.
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On December 19 2012 06:14 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:09 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:06 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. PL was around in 2003, what year is it about to be? 2013. Let's do some simple math here. 2013 - 2003 = ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/ProleagueThe old KPGA teamleague was not proleague. And it sure as hell wasn't available for free via livestream. 2003 KTF EVERCup OnGameNet ProleagueI did a little bolding for you. Resorting to semantics after simple math failed you and continuing to fail. If you like, I can boot up my old laptop and school you in some BW as well. I'll even play random. It doesn't matter if it was livestreamed to us back then. This isn't about livestream either. This is about the VODs being PPV. Since when was ANY PL VOD PPV? Please, refresh my memory as to whether or not this has ever occurred.
No official PL VODs were ever available outside Korea until that esportstv youtube channel. The ones from the VOD tracker and other places were taken from Korean torrent websites and were of questionable legality to say the least.
Also, "proleague" almost always refers to the joint OGN + MBC operation. It was a whole different beast back when it was in direct competition with MBC's own team league. I suppose you could technically refer to the old OGN-only stuff as "proleague" just as MSLs could technically be referred to as "starleagues," but that's not really the idea.
The point is, you are not being asked to pay for something that's been freely available for a decade in the same form.
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On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then.
where did u get ppv from...? free live stream
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On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream
Interesting perspective.
TL Business agenda for TSL5!
1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners
2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live
3.) Charge $5 for VODs
4.)???
5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream
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On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream
exactly, for my timezone this means either korean vods or ppv
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On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream
maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst
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On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:On December 19 2012 01:17 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Wait so we don't even have vods anymore?
rofl goodbye PL then
Edit: I might be jumping the shark too quick, seems kor vods on ytube might still be available It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst
Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do
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On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:On December 19 2012 01:49 eericson000 wrote:
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It is available on twitch channel if you subscribed to PL for 5 bucks. Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do
but there are vods
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On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:On December 19 2012 03:11 Supah wrote:
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Is that for hd streaming/voids, or is it only for se vods Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods
Which require a subscription to be viewed
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I think youtube channel cant be watched from every country...well this is bad...i cant watch anymore pl matches...
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On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 03:23 Veldril wrote:
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Everything in HD. It's quite a steal, really. PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place. What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed
so why cant you pay 5 dollars?
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On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:
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PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place.
What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars?
It doesn't matter if someone can or can't. It's that it just isn't worth it based on production value and commentary. Plus the fact that KeSPA is trying to force you to buy it by blocking all other means of watching it that have been available for the longest time, is just shady. I actually prefer the Korean version, but they blocked it, and apparently aren't allowing any more uploads via ESTV for foreigners. I'm not paying money for a lesser product.
If I'm wrong and they are just late with the uploads, then I'm wrong. But it appears that they aren't uploading any more.
On December 19 2012 07:04 Ammanas wrote:
Wait a sec... Are you kidding me? Seriously this is where we got? It's 5 bucks. FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS for 7 months of content. Thats like one tenth of what I spend on night out. Thats exactly what I spent for one lunch. For 7 months of content. Are we seriously complaining about that? That is so ridiculous I am just left speechless.
Make both English and Korean commentary available with the $5 and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. I'm not paying $5 for a stream that I'll likely mute.
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Wait a sec... Are you kidding me? Seriously this is where we got? It's 5 bucks. FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS for 7 months of content. Thats like one tenth of what I spend on night out. Thats exactly what I spent for one lunch. For 7 months of content. Are we seriously complaining about that? That is so ridiculous I am just left speechless.
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On December 19 2012 06:58 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:52 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:47 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:45 broodmann wrote:On December 19 2012 06:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On December 19 2012 06:32 Dosey wrote:On December 19 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On December 19 2012 06:08 Cele wrote:On December 19 2012 06:00 city42 wrote:On December 19 2012 05:40 Dosey wrote:
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PL has been free to me for the past decade, it shouldn't change now just because some poor english commentary with poor sound is taking place.
What a ridiculous thing to say. A decade ago, the only way to see BW games was via sub-240p .rm VODs on broodwar.com. Livestreaming was completely unheard of and many were still saddled with 56k internet. People recorded FPVODs with camtasia and then had to manually encode the several-GB raw video file into something that could be uploaded. The first chance most of us had to even download a proleague VOD was the old TL DC++ hub in 2004ish. In fact, proleague didn't even exist 10 years ago. All you've done is prove that you weren't around back then. Now, since when is TL producing PPV content. This is rather dissapointing to me i must say. Im gonna watch korean vods then. where did u get ppv from...? free live stream Interesting perspective. TL Business agenda for TSL5!1.) Host all matches live "free" in Korean time slots inconvenient for foreigners 2.) Fans with jobs can't watch live 3.) Charge $5 for VODs 4.)??? 5.) Profit with a "technically free" stream maybe they can call kespa and make them play all the matches at 3am kst Or maybe they could restream the games at a better time, just like IPL, Onemoregame or NASAL do but there are vods Which require a subscription to be viewed so why cant you pay 5 dollars?
Because I'm a student and dont really have 5$ to pay. Plus this isn't a TL organised event. And the korean vods are free so why shouldn't the english ones be?
This has nothing to do with tl other than the fact that they are participating in it and have decided to get some english casters.
Everything could be fixed if they just gave full monopoly to sayle  . though i doubt that he would want to cast sc2 ;o.
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