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Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
December 16 2012 05:24 GMT
#781
Where are you guys watching? My stream died.
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#782
come on shine, kill him.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#783
How do I sign in to the Korean chat to apologize for my American brethren? Lol . . . sigh
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#784
On December 16 2012 14:24 Dodgin wrote:
I think Fionn's sponsor is waxangel

email his waxangel


i would lose my $0 pay and get more free time.

my punishment would probably be more articles.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#785
On December 16 2012 14:22 Zebb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:14 Arceus wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:07 Adreme wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?


No because I agree with what he said about Proleague being perfect place to test maps and not for the reason you made up. Its perfect because if a map is imbalanced you just dont play that race on it. Thats why they could make a map that is only good for TvT in proleague and it would be fine because you can just send out terrans for it.

dont forget KeSPA has their map strictly tested by proteams as well. And so far theres no map that frequently features only once race, albeit a few PvP on Caldeum. At the same time, just look at Kerrigan Altar LE or Wonwonwonhana. Just tell me which map needs to be phased out after Round 1 please, no bias please.
People calling Proleague a map-testing league just because their maps are unique is pure shortsighted


Different races are coming out because nobody has any idea what they're doing. Metagame takes sooooo looooong to develop.

Here's my question, now that I've thought about it: How can "interesting" maps (like Arkanoid) make their way into non-proleage format tournaments (like GSL) in a way that is tolerable to the tournaments, players, and community? The idea that mapmakers throw so much random stuff at players that the metagame can't keep up seems like a poor way to develop real game balance. But too much stability feels "stale" for the community. What was the situation like in BW? Was balance achieved through a deluge of unique maps that kept the metagame from stabilizing, or was there a standard (stale?) maptype with only minor differences between maps?


We have to remember BW didn't get 'balance' patches in terms of units and so forth. So that eliminated one of the factors of a changing metagame. So maps was used to change/balance the meta.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#786
On December 16 2012 14:24 Scribble wrote:
Where are you guys watching? My stream died.


kr stream, but eng stream back up again.
Moderator
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#787
I'm with the new maps, it had been a long time with stagnating and boring metagame.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#788
On December 16 2012 14:23 nmetasch wrote:
Well, the korean stream chat is a complete disaster lol.


what's happening in it? Just a bunch of foreigner spam?
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
December 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#789
On December 16 2012 14:24 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:23 nmetasch wrote:
Well, the korean stream chat is a complete disaster lol.


Thought it was a standard rule by now, stream chats for events are always bad as fuck...

This one is even worse, since it's your general awfulness combined with people trolling even more overtly to piss off koreans. It doesn't look like it's being modded either.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 05:26:40
December 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#790
Haha the english stream is only behind 9min ^^

edit. that was a fast fix.
The curse is real
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51538 Posts
December 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#791
I wonder, after all this talk about arkanoid, what do you guys think of Planet S and caldeum, these maps are definitely individual tournment level.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#792
what is a chobulingu O____O
can i get my estro logo back pls
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#793
On December 16 2012 14:24 stuchiu wrote:
I'm happy now I didn't write out my joke about Shine and Alive.


I do think Stats, Alive and Shine all look very similar.

The only player whose looks ever freaked me out were UpMagic. He looked like a serial killer. I'm allowed to say this since he match fixed and is a bad, bad man.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 05:28:46
December 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#794
On December 16 2012 14:22 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:22 Zenbrez wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:20 Fionn wrote:
It was a joke.

Calm down.

Alive and Shine are both good looking guys with manly chins.

Little "fucked up", no?


I feel bad about my joke now. I apologize to Shine and Alive.

But they do look similar.


Shine had work done. Koreans and their aesthetics.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
December 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#795
On December 16 2012 14:22 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:22 Zenbrez wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:20 Fionn wrote:
It was a joke.

Calm down.

Alive and Shine are both good looking guys with manly chins.

Little "fucked up", no?


I feel bad about my joke now. I apologize to Shine and Alive.

But they do look similar.


no need to feel bad... no reason to apologize. holy cow people are way too easily offended over nothing.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#796
On December 16 2012 14:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I wonder, after all this talk about arkanoid, what do you guys think of Planet S and caldeum, these maps are definitely individual tournment level.


I think they are quite good, Planet S especially. Flash vs some Zerg on Planet S was a lot of fun yesterday.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1971 Posts
December 16 2012 05:27 GMT
#797
On December 16 2012 14:24 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:23 nmetasch wrote:
Well, the korean stream chat is a complete disaster lol.


Thought it was a standard rule by now(close em), stream chats for events are always bad as fuck...

They didn't use to be for Broodwar...sigh...
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 16 2012 05:27 GMT
#798
On December 16 2012 14:27 coasts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:24 Tobblish wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:23 nmetasch wrote:
Well, the korean stream chat is a complete disaster lol.


Thought it was a standard rule by now(close em), stream chats for events are always bad as fuck...

They didn't use to be for Broodwar...sigh...


Welcome to the mainstream
The curse is real
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
December 16 2012 05:27 GMT
#799
On December 16 2012 14:26 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:22 Fionn wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:22 Zenbrez wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:20 Fionn wrote:
It was a joke.

Calm down.

Alive and Shine are both good looking guys with manly chins.

Little "fucked up", no?


I feel bad about my joke now. I apologize to Shine and Alive.

But they do look similar.


no need to feel bad... no reason to apologize. holy cow people are way too easily offended over nothing.

Welcome to the internets where everyone can be a white knight, and be a badass!
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 16 2012 05:27 GMT
#800
I can't believe people are mad at Fionn.
MMA: The true King of Wings
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