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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 17 2012 10:07 GMT
#1941
Go Leenock! 1st place in the group is within your grasp!
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TL+ Member
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 17 2012 10:08 GMT
#1942
On December 17 2012 19:04 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 19:01 monkybone wrote:
On December 17 2012 19:01 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:58 monkybone wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:56 Lazzi wrote:
I really wish that sc2 profile would be linked to TL account too. Would really help.


no, that would be really bad, lol

Why?


It would lead to a hostile environment with a lot of prejudice and irrelevant insults

kind of like the blizz forums

I don't think so. In the strategy forum there are people in blue and you know they know their shit about the game. It would be the same. It doesn't mean that player under diamond can't be right or have good ideas.


You are telling me a patch zerg in masters "know there shit about the game" and only makes valid points?
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 17 2012 10:08 GMT
#1943
On December 17 2012 19:00 thesums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 18:58 naux wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:55 Kyyuna wrote:
Well with MVP out, off to watch PL.


That is how i feel at the moment, you want MVP to do so well or just a terran to be honest, but i think blizzard might of nerfed terran so hard and pretty sure there aren't going to be any new patches for WOL but its okay HOTS is almost near.


HoTS does not help, at least not right now.


Widow mines 1 hit a flock of muta
Reaper base speed + upgrade speed increased (4.25 with upgrade)
Battle hellions

There you go, HotS for you.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
December 17 2012 10:08 GMT
#1944
On December 17 2012 19:06 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 18:58 Wildmoon wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:57 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:55 Wildmoon wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:55 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:43 Wildmoon wrote:
Terrans is facing extinction.

Next Code S so far: 10 Terrans 2 Protoss 8 Zergs.


None of them have a chance to win code S anyway.

Maybe not, but they are definetly not extinct. No Protoss has any better chance than the Terrans tbh.


I think protoss have a lot better chance with soulful all in.

One strat to beat all these zerg ? Not gonna work.

Only one player can do the soulful all-in, the others just do an immortal all-in.
It's good to be back
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
December 17 2012 10:08 GMT
#1945
woa suddenly lag
"Expert" mods4ever.com
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
December 17 2012 10:09 GMT
#1946
1/6 on Liquibet so far bahaha.
WhiteSatin
Profile Joined December 2012
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 10:13:55
December 17 2012 10:09 GMT
#1947
On December 17 2012 19:03 Fubi wrote:
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On December 17 2012 18:47 WhiteSatin wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:42 Weavel wrote:
Sloppy but entertaining game.


I am always amused when people say it.

"Sloppy play" rotfl what are you talking about ?
You probably have no idea the amount of speed, micro/macro required to play at that level.
That was overall a great game.

When you see those "sloppy-looking" games by Gumiho, for instance, that's because his multi tasking is insane.

Comments like yours are purely based on ignorance and I bet you are not a high master's (or even just regular master) player. I wish b.net profiles were linked to TL accounts so people would think twice about posting their low-level knowledge comments about the game.
"A gold player thinks some of the best players in the world are playing sloppily" hmmm, not quite.


Why do people always use arguments like these? We have the right to criticize them because they are putting themselves up on the spot by being professional players. If a professional singer goes off pitch or a professional dancer trips during a live performance, we as the audience have the right to criticize them even though 99% of us will be 100 times worst at singing/dancing.

Fact of the matter is, Hero's control WAS sloppy; look at how many stalkers he lost in that first aggression. MVP's micro was definitely better than Hero's both games, he just didn't have the best decisions/unit comp.


I don't think you quite got the meaning of what I said.
What you are mentioning is very different from what I complained about.

Obviously if a professional singer goes off pitch you can say they messed up much more easily than judging a very complex game like SC2.

As I said in my comments "most of the times" (which is not always, but a lot of them) the "sloppy play" comments are plain wrong. For instance, in the first game beteween MVP and HerO there was nothing that could have made the game possibly be labeled as "sloppy", yet there was a comment about it right away.

When you go around the LR threads, if you know the game at least at masters level, you will notice that these overly-popular sloppy comments are plain wrong 90% of the times - so my complain was not referred to the fact that people can't criticize pro players plays or decisions but rather that a lot of them lack the tools and the understanding to realize when to do so.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
December 17 2012 10:09 GMT
#1948
On December 17 2012 19:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 19:04 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 19:01 monkybone wrote:
On December 17 2012 19:01 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:58 monkybone wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:56 Lazzi wrote:
I really wish that sc2 profile would be linked to TL account too. Would really help.


no, that would be really bad, lol

Why?


It would lead to a hostile environment with a lot of prejudice and irrelevant insults

kind of like the blizz forums

I don't think so. In the strategy forum there are people in blue and you know they know their shit about the game. It would be the same. It doesn't mean that player under diamond can't be right or have good ideas.


You are telling me a patch zerg in masters "know there shit about the game" and only makes valid points?

Not neither. But no one makes only valid points.
It's good to be back
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
December 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#1949
On December 17 2012 19:07 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 19:05 Fubi wrote:
On December 17 2012 19:01 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
In group of 5, BO1 round robin will be so much more interesting and unpredictable than this format. This format is so boring, and loooooong.

By that logic, flipping coins is also more interesting and unpredictable than this =)


No, flipping coins are more unpredictable, but not more interesting. So not a good thing to decide winner.

"More interesting" is subjective; and to me (and alot of people here), it is more interesting than most of the current metas (turtle zerg into lategame gglords, deathball Toss, etc)
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#1950
Leenock vs. DongRaeGu

Leenock wins (78.66%):
      2-0: 49.30%
      2-1: 29.37%

DongRaeGu wins (21.34%):
      2-0: 8.87%
      2-1: 12.46%

Most likely winner: Leenock (78.66%)
Median outcome: Leenock 2-1 DongRaeGu

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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#1951
leenock looking heavily sloppy, DRG's mutas should give him an insane lead.
I love crazymoving
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#1952
Huh...where did Leenock fall so far behind?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 17 2012 10:12 GMT
#1953
--- Nuked ---
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 17 2012 10:13 GMT
#1954
Ohh, Terran eliminated already. Guess there's still ProLeague to watch.
birchman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden393 Posts
December 17 2012 10:13 GMT
#1955
Go MvP and Hero!
Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
December 17 2012 10:14 GMT
#1956
On December 17 2012 19:09 WhiteSatin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 19:03 Fubi wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:47 WhiteSatin wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:42 Weavel wrote:
Sloppy but entertaining game.


I am always amused when people say it.

"Sloppy play" rotfl what are you talking about ?
You probably have no idea the amount of speed, micro/macro required to play at that level.
That was overall a great game.

When you see those "sloppy-looking" games by Gumiho, for instance, that's because his multi tasking is insane.

Comments like yours are purely based on ignorance and I bet you are not a high master's (or even just regular master) player. I wish b.net profiles were linked to TL accounts so people would think twice about posting their low-level knowledge comments about the game.
"A gold player thinks some of the best players in the world are playing sloppily" hmmm, not quite.


Why do people always use arguments like these? We have the right to criticize them because they are putting themselves up on the spot by being professional players. If a professional singer goes off pitch or a professional dancer trips during a live performance, we as the audience have the right to criticize them even though 99% of us will be 100 times worst at singing/dancing.

Fact of the matter is, Hero's control WAS sloppy; look at how many stalkers he lost in that first aggression. MVP's micro was definitely better than Hero's both games, he just didn't have the best decisions/unit comp.


I don't think you quite got the meaning of what I said.
What you are mentioning is very different from what I complained about.

Obviously if a professional singer goes off pitch you can say they messed up much more easily than judging a very complex game like SC2.

As I said in my comments "most of the times" (which is not always, but a lot of them) the "sloppy play" comments are plain wrong. For instance, in the first game beteween MVP and HerO there was nothing that could have made the game possibly be labeled as "sloppy", yet there was a comment about it right away.

When you go around the LR threads, if you know the game at least a masters level, you will notice that these overly-popular sloppy comments are plain wrong 90% of the times - so my complain was not referred to the fact that people can't criticize pro players plays or decisions but rather that a lot of them lack the tools and the understanding to realize when to do so.

I'm not saying they're correct calling them sloppy, I'm just saying your argument for saying so is wrong as well; just cuz we're not as good as a professional at doing what they do, it doesn't mean we as audience don't have the rights to criticize. Now, the argument that Hero missed a few micros cuz he was multitasking like crazy in game 1, yea that I agree.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#1957
ohmg if this nydus works i will lose it
I love crazymoving
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#1958
leenock is dead
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#1959
omg drg nydus
moo...for DRG
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 17 2012 10:16 GMT
#1960
DRG totally got this holy crap.

Is this DRGs tournament suddenly?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
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