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On December 17 2012 17:30 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:28 Maloreon wrote:On December 17 2012 17:26 xAdra wrote:On December 17 2012 17:25 Maloreon wrote:On December 17 2012 17:24 xAdra wrote:On December 17 2012 17:23 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 17:21 xAdra wrote:On December 17 2012 17:19 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 17:19 xAdra wrote:On December 17 2012 17:17 Skelith wrote:
f#435 yeah!!! kick that gimmick protoss out! I'm sure we would much rather watch gimmick protosses or terrans as opposed to the boring-as-watching-paint-peeling, turtle into autowin composition zergs. good thing leenock isn't that zerg Yes and no. I don't mind Leenock in the early-mid games at all. His lategame will inevitably always be infestor-bl though, in which case I will just switch off the gomplayer, and wait for the next zergless matchup. how is that so different from, say, protoss whose lategame will be mothership-archon-collosus? or terran with MMMVG? it's the composition which works, we can't expect leenock to go mass hydra or something since that's just dumb lol. I'm blaming the zerg race. Mothership-archon-colossus is the response to infestor broodlord, and MMMVG is fun to watch and actually difficult to play and multitask with. Infestor broodlord is a snoozefest which is far too easy to execute and near impossible to defend against unless the zerg makes a critical and dumb mistake. Why would you even post stuff like this in these threads... it's already been said and argued about a hundred billion times. Just stop, enjoy the games or move on its really our only choice as viewers.  I'm just responding to someone calling Parting a gimmick protoss, and people asking me to explain. I'm going to follow your wise advice and stop, and continue not watching any zerg games which do not involve leenock. I'm not overly fond of ZvZ or PvP but I still watch and find things to enjoy in them (usually ridiculous micro or multi-task) - to each his own though. Sorry I missed what you were responding to, I can't understand how anyone would say Parting is a gimmicky player he can all-in better than just about anyone, micro, macro, and decision making are all world class. Glad we see eye-to-eye on this. I did not mean to come off as a balance whiner before this. I'm partial to PvP for one reason: protoss pros are already a rarity in most tournaments (bar the WCS tournaments where korean protosses dominated) and watching them take each other out is just brutal 
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I prefer fighting gateway units and up to immortals and high templars, but colossus is just rage inducing
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On December 17 2012 17:29 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:24 xAdra wrote:On December 17 2012 17:23 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 17:21 xAdra wrote:On December 17 2012 17:19 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 17:19 xAdra wrote:On December 17 2012 17:17 Skelith wrote:
f#435 yeah!!! kick that gimmick protoss out! I'm sure we would much rather watch gimmick protosses or terrans as opposed to the boring-as-watching-paint-peeling, turtle into autowin composition zergs. good thing leenock isn't that zerg Yes and no. I don't mind Leenock in the early-mid games at all. His lategame will inevitably always be infestor-bl though, in which case I will just switch off the gomplayer, and wait for the next zergless matchup. how is that so different from, say, protoss whose lategame will be mothership-archon-collosus? or terran with MMMVG? it's the composition which works, we can't expect leenock to go mass hydra or something since that's just dumb lol. I'm blaming the zerg race. Mothership-archon-colossus is the response to infestor broodlord, and MMMVG is fun to watch and actually difficult to play and multitask with. Infestor broodlord is a snoozefest which is far too easy to execute and near impossible to defend against unless the zerg makes a critical and dumb mistake. If you want to blame infestor broodlord for making ms-archon-colo, then you need to blame colo-sentries for infestor broodlord. I am sure zergs would be happy with ling/roaches if protoss didn't build colo/storm.
Was blaming the game to begin with, not Leenock personally. Why not ask why the person i started responding to on why Parting is a gimmicky player?
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Heh we're all praying that HotS changes the meta-game drastically (in a good way). Playing the same compositions over and over gets really old and I honestly just blame aoe units. Anyway, watching proleague until break is over.
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On December 17 2012 17:32 Maloreon wrote:Heh we're all praying that HotS changes the meta-game drastically (in a good way). Playing the same compositions over and over gets really old and I honestly just blame aoe units. Anyway, watching proleague until break is over.
I'd rather blame units that limit micro (ff, fungal and how the races are so dependant on them)...aoe is cool to watch and use. Yes, proleague will actually inject variety into our sc2-watcher lives with the bw maps (even if they are weird as shit, it's just super interesting and different)
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Anyone else get the feeling ZvZvZvZ semifinals incoming?
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Disappointing results. Hopefully Blizzard cup doesn't turn into IPL all over again. Still I suppose it's too early to comment on the efficacy of the patch.
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On December 17 2012 17:40 tomatriedes wrote:
Anyone else get the feeling ZvZvZvZ semifinals incoming?
ZvZ (and PvP) are better than ZvP.
Though it's certainly slightly disappointing seeing zerg so comfortably 4-0 in non-mirrors already this tourney.
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On December 17 2012 17:40 tomatriedes wrote:
Anyone else get the feeling ZvZvZvZ semifinals incoming?
rain will 3base push his way to victory!
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can parting still get top1 in group>?
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On December 17 2012 17:43 MCXD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:40 tomatriedes wrote:
Anyone else get the feeling ZvZvZvZ semifinals incoming? ZvZ (and PvP) are better than ZvP. Though it's certainly slightly disappointing seeing zerg so comfortably 4-0 in non-mirrors already this tourney.
I think comfortably might be an overstatement...DRG > MVP 2-1, and MVP is of questionable condition nowadays. Also Leenock > Parting 2-1, where he basically blind-countered Parting's builds in both of his wins...
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On December 17 2012 17:50 Corsica wrote:
can parting still get top1 in group>?
Yes, he can still get 3-1 but he needs Leenock to drop a set.
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opterown
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On December 17 2012 17:51 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:50 Corsica wrote:
can parting still get top1 in group>? Yes, he can still get 3-1 but he needs Leenock to drop a set.
possibly two if h2h counts over map score
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Austria24422 Posts
Did HerO play lategame vs zerg again? T_T
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United States97276 Posts
On December 17 2012 17:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Did HerO play lategame vs zerg again? T_T
all his losses were late game
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Austria24422 Posts
On December 17 2012 17:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Did HerO play lategame vs zerg again? T_T yeah pretty much every game he tried
Goddamnit. Silly person :'(
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On December 17 2012 17:30 xAdra wrote:Glad we see eye-to-eye on this. I did not mean to come off as a balance whiner before this. I'm partial to PvP for one reason: protoss pros are already a rarity in most tournaments (bar the WCS tournaments where korean protosses dominated) and watching them take each other out is just brutal
I've always enjoyed watching PvP, as long as it doesn't get to colossus wars. Cheese is a plenty (cannon rushing + proxy 2gate), games tends to be low econ which are a nice change of pace from all these macro games now a days, and it's interesting to see how the game goes with the different builds (blink rush, DT rush, stargate).
My biggest fear that I don't see mentioned often is PvP in HOTS. I'm afraid that the mothership core will be too good on the defensive and we'll see less 1 base vs 1 base with heavily delayed expansions (compared to other match ups) and more early nexus vs early nexus into straight colossus / tempest.
Now that would be boring 
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 17 2012 17:54 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:51 vthree wrote:On December 17 2012 17:50 Corsica wrote:
can parting still get top1 in group>? Yes, he can still get 3-1 but he needs Leenock to drop a set. possibly two if h2h counts over map score
Always map score before h2h
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United States97276 Posts
On December 17 2012 17:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 17:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Did HerO play lategame vs zerg again? T_T yeah pretty much every game he tried Goddamnit. Silly person :'(
He tried to take a 4th on Abyssal City
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opterown
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On December 17 2012 17:56 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 17:51 vthree wrote:On December 17 2012 17:50 Corsica wrote:
can parting still get top1 in group>? Yes, he can still get 3-1 but he needs Leenock to drop a set. possibly two if h2h counts over map score Always map score before h2h
i distinctly remember some tourneys being otherwise. mlg for one (when they had groups). so we'll need to see
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 17 2012 17:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2012 17:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 17:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Did HerO play lategame vs zerg again? T_T yeah pretty much every game he tried Goddamnit. Silly person :'( He tried to take a 4th on Abyssal City
And a third (and eventually a fourth) on Bel'shir Vestige
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