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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 15 2012 08:13 GMT
#801
I'm really regretting not picking up soO when I had him on my team originally they always say second guessing yourself is dumb
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#802
Mornin'. They got Bitter and TB to cast? Nice surprise.

gogo SKT T1!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#803
On December 15 2012 17:13 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:12 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:09 AgentW wrote:
I have soO in FPL. His chances in a ZvZ against Soulkey?


Small, but anything can happen.


What? Why would his chances be small? It's 50/50 at best for Soulkey. -_-


I think SoulKey is a bit better at ZvZ to be honest. I'd give him a small edge.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#804
On December 15 2012 17:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I'm really regretting not picking up soO when I had him on my team originally they always say second guessing yourself is dumb


Think of it this way: you considered picking a ton of players, and some were good, and some were bad. Think of all of the bad guys you were considering. And it's only week 2
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#805
On December 15 2012 17:13 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:12 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:09 AgentW wrote:
I have soO in FPL. His chances in a ZvZ against Soulkey?


Small, but anything can happen.


What? Why would his chances be small? It's 50/50 at best for Soulkey. -_-

i wouldn't call it "at best" since i don't think soo is enourmously favoured or anything. probably even matchup
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
December 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#806
Happen to get lucky and wake up just in time for the Ace match!!...... Ends up being a ZvZ on TDA... Oh well, It'll hold me out until GSL. Oh shit I just realized there is no GSL tonight......... Damn now I have 4 hours to fill in.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#807
Also, take into account that SKT knew that Soulkey is going to come out. Whereas Woongjin could only really guess as to who will come out of Rain, Soo and Fantasy.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 15 2012 08:15 GMT
#808
On December 15 2012 17:12 Sea_Food wrote:
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On December 15 2012 17:04 Zenbrez wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:01 Sea_Food wrote:
Both of them playing extreamly bad. I honestly cant believe this whole game. Seen better play by diamond leaguers.

Is it a coinsidence you didn't provide any reason or thought as to what they're doing wrong?

Free constantly kept trying to walk down ramp against an enemy with sentries. This means that rain could have killed like 4 units for free every time.
Too bad rain also played bad so he missed many of the force fields, and when he did land the proper forcefields, he controlled hes army so bad that he managed to lose own units every time when he had a 4to1 advantage.
Then rain aswell use blink cooldown to blink up ramp when he knew that free had been producing non stop immortals for past 4 minutes.
Then free had 2robos but decided to not build constant colossus from it.
Free built a warp prism just so he could do that 1 zealot haras, luckily rain was so bad that he lost 2 probes, tons of mining time, and a stalker against this 1 zealot.
Also in the last engagent pulled 2 colossus and many of own zealots against that small zealot warp in and thus lost the battle.
Rain had terrible blink micro during the whole game. Not one of the 20 engagement went propelly for him.

PvP is one of the "easiest" match up in a sense that if enemy makes a big mistake like both of the players kept doing in that game, you should use that advantage to play methodically and not make a single mistake and after a few minutes you have won the game.

I tought it was obvious so i didnt bother to post the reasons originally.

Can't please you.
Refer to my post.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 15 2012 08:15 GMT
#809
On December 15 2012 17:14 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I'm really regretting not picking up soO when I had him on my team originally they always say second guessing yourself is dumb


Think of it this way: you considered picking a ton of players, and some were good, and some were bad. Think of all of the bad guys you were considering. And it's only week 2

haha for a few crazy seconds I had like:
IdrA
HerO
JYP
Sea
EG-TL
as my team. good idea i switched lolol, though i'm doing pretty bad anyway
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 15 2012 08:16 GMT
#810
On December 15 2012 17:13 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:12 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:09 AgentW wrote:
I have soO in FPL. His chances in a ZvZ against Soulkey?


Small, but anything can happen.


What? Why would his chances be small? It's 50/50 at best for Soulkey. -_-


Small as in 20 - 30%. Soulkey has really good ZvZ. But maybe BB should give the stats xD
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 15 2012 08:16 GMT
#811
On December 15 2012 17:15 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:14 AgentW wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I'm really regretting not picking up soO when I had him on my team originally they always say second guessing yourself is dumb


Think of it this way: you considered picking a ton of players, and some were good, and some were bad. Think of all of the bad guys you were considering. And it's only week 2

haha for a few crazy seconds I had like:
IdrA
HerO
JYP
Sea
EG-TL
as my team. good idea i switched lolol, though i'm doing pretty bad anyway

Exactly. I'm kicking myself for not picking BaBy, but then I consider that I was going to pick JangBi.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
December 15 2012 08:16 GMT
#812
lol last minute crowd or lol crowd ?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 15 2012 08:17 GMT
#813
But an old guitar, and an empty bottle of booze....
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24600 Posts
December 15 2012 08:17 GMT
#814
TB doesn't like Cash? Hiss!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 08:17:41
December 15 2012 08:17 GMT
#815
On December 15 2012 17:16 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:13 Talin wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:12 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:09 AgentW wrote:
I have soO in FPL. His chances in a ZvZ against Soulkey?


Small, but anything can happen.


What? Why would his chances be small? It's 50/50 at best for Soulkey. -_-


Small as in 20 - 30%. Soulkey has really good ZvZ. But maybe BB should give the stats xD

soo did beat soulkey 4-3 in MvP though

but then again, soulkey is unbeatable in series.

except the ones he loses, which i don't count.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Telsh
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States148 Posts
December 15 2012 08:17 GMT
#816
On December 15 2012 17:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I'm really regretting not picking up soO when I had him on my team originally they always say second guessing yourself is dumb


bro i feel you story of my life
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 15 2012 08:17 GMT
#817
On December 15 2012 17:16 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:13 Talin wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:12 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:09 AgentW wrote:
I have soO in FPL. His chances in a ZvZ against Soulkey?


Small, but anything can happen.


What? Why would his chances be small? It's 50/50 at best for Soulkey. -_-


Small as in 20 - 30%. Soulkey has really good ZvZ. But maybe BB should give the stats xD


Soo beat Soulkey in a BO7. He's definitely not at a 20% chance against him. It's really 50/50ish.
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
December 15 2012 08:18 GMT
#818
I thought ZerO was the ace for a second. *sigh*
Writer@joonjoewong
jpark4g
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States101 Posts
December 15 2012 08:18 GMT
#819
On December 15 2012 17:14 Talin wrote:
Also, take into account that SKT knew that Soulkey is going to come out. Whereas Woongjin could only really guess as to who will come out of Rain, Soo and Fantasy.

wtf u talking about bro? neither team knew who was gonna be sent out..
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 15 2012 08:18 GMT
#820
soulkey soulkey gogogo
jjakji fan
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