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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 10 2012 00:44 GMT
#1661
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tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
December 10 2012 00:44 GMT
#1662
On December 10 2012 09:36 morlakaix wrote:
Polt the patchzerginator

I rather like zergminator <3
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 10 2012 00:44 GMT
#1663
Go Polt crush this Zerg
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1664
On December 10 2012 09:38 thepuppyassassin wrote:
It's now official.. Sortof certainly isn't the next foreign hope. The hype train has been derailed for this Nerd.

Did you just edit "Swede" into "Nerd"? Wtf is the point of that?
Didnt even know that is an insult here now.

Man, reading these LR threads is just sad.

Off-season = best season
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1665
On December 10 2012 09:43 Snusmumriken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:39 sAsImre wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:38 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Dodgin wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:36 ultratorr wrote:
They're not on the same level, are they


Polt is possibly playing the best Terran in the world right now, so I would say no.


I think bomber plays better on average lately but is less stable.


Bomber vP is definitely better, probably the best TvPer nowadays but I think his vZ is way worse than Polt's one currently and to go far in foreign tournaments... you better have a good vZ


If you compare polts vz prepatch to postpatch it looks much stronger. Its difficult to judge if the same applies to bomber. I agree with you though that polts current vz compared to last time I saw bombers vz is much better.


Bomber vZ is either 2rax into mech or his 3b all in? Or i miss something? If it's that I acknowledge he had better results but it's not solid at all, imo his 3b build can be dealt quite well if you prepare for it.
Zest fanboy.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1666
On December 10 2012 09:44 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:41 stuchiu wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:40 Noc- wrote:
Wtf I write those cd keys so fucking fast and still no luck.



Unless you're subbed, it's not going to happen.


Why, is there a delay?

yesterday someone said there was like a 30 sec delay or something
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
December 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1667
yesterday: sortof I love you
today: sortof I hate you

the humanity :p
Amove for Aiur
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1668
On December 10 2012 09:42 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:38 hifriend wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Schelim wrote:
i'm not gonna engage in too much balance discussion as i don't think it makes much sense, but if you can't see that Polt is a much better player than sortof, i don't really know what to say.

you mean only judging by today's games? how so? sortof was way ahead and messed up one drop defense.. This game was just a timing, a misread, an a-move.


i mean judging by their recent play and results along with what they have been showing tonight. i'm not saying sortof is bad, i'm saying Polt is better.


Polt is a champion level player from Korea... why are we even having this discussion it's beyond obvious. It's like saying MVP is better than some foreign Terran with no titles - everyone knows it and it's so obvious to point out lol. Sortof played really good in game 1, especially his spread before the first major engagement vs. Ravens, but his follow up since then in both games not so good.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
December 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1669
On December 10 2012 09:45 Snusmumriken wrote:
yesterday: sortof I love you
today: sortof I hate you

the humanity :p


Well, he is losing.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
December 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1670
I really wish Polt beat Hero. I would've loved to see a Polt Violet Final.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
December 10 2012 00:46 GMT
#1671
We will see the same 3rd and 2nd places as IPL5. (=
JD is BONJWA!
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 00:47:17
December 10 2012 00:46 GMT
#1672
On December 10 2012 09:43 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:41 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 sAsImre wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:36 SwizzY wrote:
Greedy play actually to not get a baneling nest after seeing 3 rax early like that


banelings without speed are pretty much useless against good T in those cases. They explode far away of anything, you pray that your opponent makes a micro mistake.



....not at all, it forces out more stims and forces the T army to back off.



The main two ways I've seen this push held off are having Roaches mixed in and at least one game I can recall Zerg surround and ram with banelings. Not sure how cost effective the latter is though.


Well it required Code B-A level scouting with lings to know at least 10-15 seconds ahead of time that rauder/hellion allin was coming. But ok. If you know what's coming then you don't necessarily have to scout proactively.

But what he did know was that hellions were out along with 3 rax+1 tech lab. On 2 base. I don't know about you but knowing even a little bit about Polt's style that is a HUGE giveaway to either an all-in or something crazy.

Not getting at least a baneling nest but getting 2/2 is greedy as fuck and anyone arguing otherwise is not framing the situation clearly
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
December 10 2012 00:46 GMT
#1673
On December 10 2012 09:45 Snusmumriken wrote:
yesterday: sortof I love you
today: sortof I hate you

the humanity :p


I think people were more surprised that SortOf defeated HyuN 3-0 rather than him outplaying HyuN (which he did).
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
December 10 2012 00:46 GMT
#1674
On December 10 2012 09:44 Callynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:42 felisconcolori wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:40 Noc- wrote:
Wtf I write those cd keys so fucking fast and still no luck.



Copy as soon as they pop up in the Twitch Chat. (Subscriber only, but you can read it.) Switch tab, paste into Blizzard account redeemer thing, submit, and pray.

That's what I would do, if I wasn't already in the Beta.


You and 16.000 others. I tried 17 times yesterday and failed - even having someone else type for me on other screen.
It's just not funny so hard.


Wait...what are those keys given in the stream?

Im in Twitch chat but no cd keys given there. Im not subscriber though but I can read it right...
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
December 10 2012 00:46 GMT
#1675
On December 10 2012 09:45 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:43 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:39 sAsImre wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:38 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Dodgin wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:36 ultratorr wrote:
They're not on the same level, are they


Polt is possibly playing the best Terran in the world right now, so I would say no.


I think bomber plays better on average lately but is less stable.


Bomber vP is definitely better, probably the best TvPer nowadays but I think his vZ is way worse than Polt's one currently and to go far in foreign tournaments... you better have a good vZ


If you compare polts vz prepatch to postpatch it looks much stronger. Its difficult to judge if the same applies to bomber. I agree with you though that polts current vz compared to last time I saw bombers vz is much better.


Bomber vZ is either 2rax into mech or his 3b all in? Or i miss something? If it's that I acknowledge he had better results but it's not solid at all, imo his 3b build can be dealt quite well if you prepare for it.


Bomber plays a lot of tank bio lately with ridiculously impressive dropplay just like polt (less marauders). See his games vs drg in ipl for example
Amove for Aiur
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 00:49:08
December 10 2012 00:47 GMT
#1676
On December 10 2012 09:44 Callynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:42 felisconcolori wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:40 Noc- wrote:
Wtf I write those cd keys so fucking fast and still no luck.



Copy as soon as they pop up in the Twitch Chat. (Subscriber only, but you can read it.) Switch tab, paste into Blizzard account redeemer thing, submit, and pray.

That's what I would do, if I wasn't already in the Beta.


You and 16.000 others. I tried 17 times yesterday and failed - even having someone else type for me on other screen.
It's just not funny so hard.

In fact, I think it's distracting from the games, they should remove that bar and just send codes in whisper to random subscribers (im not a subscriber). I just don't want to be distracted from the matches.


Yeah, it wouldn't be easy. You have to be absolutely prepared (I think there's a set pattern to how the person posts them) and really really fast on the Ctrl-C, Ctrl-Tab, Ctrl-V, Enter micro.

But still it's going to have better chances than handwriting, I think.

Noc- wrote:
Wait...what are those keys given in the stream?

Im in Twitch chat but no cd keys given there. Im not subscriber though but I can read it right...


Umm. I closed the chat awhile back, but there was someone posting beta keys in the chat awhile ago. One of the mods.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10155 Posts
December 10 2012 00:47 GMT
#1677
On December 10 2012 09:43 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:42 ultratorr wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:38 hifriend wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Schelim wrote:
i'm not gonna engage in too much balance discussion as i don't think it makes much sense, but if you can't see that Polt is a much better player than sortof, i don't really know what to say.

you mean only judging by today's games? how so? sortof was way ahead and messed up one drop defense.. This game was just a timing, a misread, an a-move.


It's a lot of micro, using marauders to tank damage while helions and marines do damage. I guess Zergs just assume other races only need to a-move too.

um I don't play zerg but there's absolutely no way he could have defended with zerglings alone unless he luckily caught hellions with a surround before the actual timing..


And how is that polt fault ? Also, helions / marauder requires micro, is not freaking a-move. He had time to prepare, scouted 3 rax and just decided to go full greedy.
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
December 10 2012 00:47 GMT
#1678
On December 10 2012 09:37 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Hellion maruader, why did terrans stop using that?

I think it's because of the maps good overlord (+patch speed) position + overlords suicide scouts
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 00:48:15
December 10 2012 00:47 GMT
#1679
On December 10 2012 09:42 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:38 hifriend wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Schelim wrote:
i'm not gonna engage in too much balance discussion as i don't think it makes much sense, but if you can't see that Polt is a much better player than sortof, i don't really know what to say.

you mean only judging by today's games? how so? sortof was way ahead and messed up one drop defense.. This game was just a timing, a misread, an a-move.


i mean judging by their recent play and results along with what they have been showing tonight. i'm not saying sortof is bad, i'm saying Polt is better.

Heh yeah that's kind of a no-brainer. I think you'll find that almost every person here knows that a regular code S contender like polt is better than sortof or any other foreigner.

G1 could have gone very differently though.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
December 10 2012 00:47 GMT
#1680
On December 10 2012 09:45 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:38 thepuppyassassin wrote:
It's now official.. Sortof certainly isn't the next foreign hope. The hype train has been derailed for this Nerd.

Did you just edit "Swede" into "Nerd"? Wtf is the point of that?
Didnt even know that is an insult here now.

Man, reading these LR threads is just sad.



ummm.. Because I wasn't sure he was Swedish? Your life must be really difficult.. judging by how small inconsequential things can anger you. Here's a butterscotch candy (handing the candy)
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