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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#1641
On December 10 2012 09:38 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:37 Schelim wrote:
i'm not gonna engage in too much balance discussion as i don't think it makes much sense, but if you can't see that Polt is a much better player than sortof, i don't really know what to say.

you mean only judging by today's games? how so? sortof was way ahead and messed up one drop defense.. This game was just a timing, a misread, an a-move.


you're actually going to question that polt is better than sortof? lol

come on now
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
December 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#1642
On December 10 2012 09:40 Noc- wrote:
Wtf I write those cd keys so fucking fast and still no luck.



Copy as soon as they pop up in the Twitch Chat. (Subscriber only, but you can read it.) Switch tab, paste into Blizzard account redeemer thing, submit, and pray.

That's what I would do, if I wasn't already in the Beta.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#1643
--- Nuked ---
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#1644
On December 10 2012 09:38 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:37 Schelim wrote:
i'm not gonna engage in too much balance discussion as i don't think it makes much sense, but if you can't see that Polt is a much better player than sortof, i don't really know what to say.

you mean only judging by today's games? how so? sortof was way ahead and messed up one drop defense.. This game was just a timing, a misread, an a-move.


i mean judging by their recent play and results along with what they have been showing tonight. i'm not saying sortof is bad, i'm saying Polt is better.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
December 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#1645
TSL.Polt wins and the winner screen shows him on Prime jacket, as Optimus.Prime haha
JD is BONJWA!
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
December 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#1646
These casters are actually much better than my memory of them !
Best or nothing.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1647
Wow I remember when SortOf was a simple GM among others in EU and it was the first GM zerg i was able to beat in a cup, now he is competing for the 3rd place of a major tourney against a past GSL superchampion. Scary.
Go Poltimus tho!
WriterMaru
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1648
On December 10 2012 09:41 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
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On December 10 2012 09:37 sAsImre wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:36 SwizzY wrote:
Greedy play actually to not get a baneling nest after seeing 3 rax early like that


banelings without speed are pretty much useless against good T in those cases. They explode far away of anything, you pray that your opponent makes a micro mistake.



....not at all, it forces out more stims and forces the T army to back off.



? you just target them while kitting or spread behind the marau depending on the number of banes. /w Polt micro it's pretty easy.
Zest fanboy.
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1649
On December 10 2012 09:41 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:37 sAsImre wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:36 SwizzY wrote:
Greedy play actually to not get a baneling nest after seeing 3 rax early like that


banelings without speed are pretty much useless against good T in those cases. They explode far away of anything, you pray that your opponent makes a micro mistake.



....not at all, it forces out more stims and forces the T army to back off.



The main two ways I've seen this push held off are having Roaches mixed in and at least one game I can recall Zerg surround and ram with banelings. Not sure how cost effective the latter is though.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1650
10k for 3rd? 5K for 4th correct?
#TheOneTrueDong
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1651
My TSL fanboyism is playing part, but I think Polt vs HyuN would be a lot closer than this. Nothing against SortOf, he played much better than HyuN, but HyuN's ZvT is probably the best currently.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1652
On December 10 2012 09:39 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:38 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Dodgin wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:36 ultratorr wrote:
They're not on the same level, are they


Polt is possibly playing the best Terran in the world right now, so I would say no.


I think bomber plays better on average lately but is less stable.


Bomber vP is definitely better, probably the best TvPer nowadays but I think his vZ is way worse than Polt's one currently and to go far in foreign tournaments... you better have a good vZ


If you compare polts vz prepatch to postpatch it looks much stronger. Its difficult to judge if the same applies to bomber. I agree with you though that polts current vz compared to last time I saw bombers vz is much better.
Amove for Aiur
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1653
We already know Polt is better.

Doesn't mean that Sortof didn't play game 1 really well before that amateur drop reaction moment.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1654
On December 10 2012 09:42 ultratorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:38 hifriend wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Schelim wrote:
i'm not gonna engage in too much balance discussion as i don't think it makes much sense, but if you can't see that Polt is a much better player than sortof, i don't really know what to say.

you mean only judging by today's games? how so? sortof was way ahead and messed up one drop defense.. This game was just a timing, a misread, an a-move.


It's a lot of micro, using marauders to tank damage while helions and marines do damage. I guess Zergs just assume other races only need to a-move too.

um I don't play zerg but there's absolutely no way he could have defended with zerglings alone unless he luckily caught hellions with a surround before the actual timing..
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1655
On December 10 2012 09:42 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:38 hifriend wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Schelim wrote:
i'm not gonna engage in too much balance discussion as i don't think it makes much sense, but if you can't see that Polt is a much better player than sortof, i don't really know what to say.

you mean only judging by today's games? how so? sortof was way ahead and messed up one drop defense.. This game was just a timing, a misread, an a-move.


you're actually going to question that polt is better than sortof? lol

come on now

hey man, sortof 3-0 hyun
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Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1656
this looks like Polt is playing a masters zerg..completely outclassing him

ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1657
sortof getting outplayed, sweet!
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 10 2012 00:44 GMT
#1658
third place match should just be best of five
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
December 10 2012 00:44 GMT
#1659
On December 10 2012 09:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:40 Noc- wrote:
Wtf I write those cd keys so fucking fast and still no luck.



Unless you're subbed, it's not going to happen.


Why, is there a delay?
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 00:45:15
December 10 2012 00:44 GMT
#1660
On December 10 2012 09:42 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:40 Noc- wrote:
Wtf I write those cd keys so fucking fast and still no luck.



Copy as soon as they pop up in the Twitch Chat. (Subscriber only, but you can read it.) Switch tab, paste into Blizzard account redeemer thing, submit, and pray.

That's what I would do, if I wasn't already in the Beta.


You and 16.000 others. I tried 17 times yesterday and failed - even having someone else type for me on other screen.
It's just not funny so hard.

In fact, I think it's distracting from the games, they should remove that bar and just send codes in whisper to random subscribers (im not a subscriber). I just don't want to be distracted from the matches.
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
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